Watching a show right now on the Vietnam War
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I find anything on the war more fascinating than WW2. How about you guys?
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Summerfest 2006
"Why would they come to our concert just to boo us?" -Lisa Simpson
Summerfest 2006
"Why would they come to our concert just to boo us?" -Lisa Simpson
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I think most vets are that way, sometimes I wonder if it is because they saw friends die and such or if it is because they have killed people or committed some war crimes
Summerfest 2006
"Why would they come to our concert just to boo us?" -Lisa Simpson
i don't think my dad commited any war crimes, but maybe he killed ppl i dunno...but my brother, who served in afghanistan, explained to me that basically its hard to relay to a civilian what combat is like, and eventually it becomes tiresome to try to get someone to grasp the total insanity and surrealness of war.
my friends dad who was there told me i know more about the war then most guys who were there. i dont know about that, but kinda made me feel good. he talks to me about shit that happened there more then he does his own kids and wife.
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel
Ive read and seen alot as well, any suggestions of something good that I may not have come across yet?
Summerfest 2006
"Why would they come to our concert just to boo us?" -Lisa Simpson
Rambo
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
How about this one......
SIR!..NO SIR
Click here to view the trailer to this movie at PUNK ASS CRUSADE.
In the 1960’s an anti-war movement emerged that altered the course of history. This movement didn’t take place on college campuses, but in barracks and on aircraft carriers. It flourished in army stockades, navy brigs and in the dingy towns that surround military bases. It penetrated elite military colleges like West Point. And it spread throughout the battlefields of Vietnam. It was a movement no one expected, least of all those in it. Hundreds went to prison and thousands into exile. And by 1971 it had, in the words of one colonel, infested the entire armed services. Yet today few people know about the GI movement against the war in Vietnam.
The Vietnam War has been the subject of hundreds of films, both fiction and non-fiction, but this story–the story of the rebellion of thousands of American soldiers against the war–has never been told in film.This is certainly not for lack of evidence. By the Pentagon’s own figures, 503,926 “incidents of desertion” occurred between 1966 and 1971; officers were being “fragged”(killed with fragmentation grenades by their own troops) at an alarming rate; and by 1971 entire units were refusing to go into battle in unprecedented numbers. In the course of a few short years, over 100 underground newspapers were published by soldiers around the world; local and national antiwar GI organizations were joined by thousands; thousands more demonstrated against the war at every major base in the world in 1970 and 1971, including in Vietnam itself; stockades and federal prisons were filling up with soldiers jailed for their opposition to the war and the military.
Yet few today know of these history-changing events.
Sir! No Sir! will change all that. The film does four things: 1) Brings to life the history of the GI movement through the stories of those who were part of it; 2) Reveals the explosion of defiance that the movement gave birth to with never-before-seen archival material; 3) Explores the profound impact that movement had on the military and the war itself; and 4) The feature, 90 minute version, also tells the story of how and why the GI Movement has been erased from the public memory.
I was part of that movement during the 60’s, and have an intimate connection with it. For two years I worked as a civilian at the Oleo Strut in Killeen, Texas–one of dozens of coffeehouses that were opened near military bases to support the efforts of antiwar soldiers. I helped organize demonstrations of over 1,000 soldiers against the war and the military; I worked with guys from small towns and urban ghettos who had joined the military and gone to Vietnam out of a deep sense of duty and now risked their lives and futures to end the war; and I helped defend them when they were jailed for their antiwar activities. My deep connection with the GI movement has given me unprecedented access to those involved, along with a tremendous amount of archival material including photographs, underground papers, local news coverage and personal 8mm footage.
Sir! No Sir! reveals how, thirty years later, the poem by Bertolt Brecht that became an anthem of the GI Movement still resonates:
General, man is very useful.
He can fly and he can kill.
But he has one defect: He can think.
Click on this to see some very interesting photographs from the Vietnam era in GALLARIES...photographs.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Have you seen the documentary 'Hearts and minds'? Or 'Winter Soldier'?
Summerfest 2006
"Why would they come to our concert just to boo us?" -Lisa Simpson
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
i couldn't agree more. i am very interested in just about anything from that era. i think that many people find themselves most interested in the generation preceding theirs, which makes sense. just my thought.
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