Salvia

pjoasisrule

Anybody here smoked it before? Any thoughts or stories to share? How long does it last?

Jeremy1012

Done it 5 or 6 times. It's very strange and very unpredictable. supposedly the effects are absolutely unique and unlike other hallucinogens. I wouldn't know having never tried mushrooms or acid. Best to do it in a bong. The main effects, as in the trip, will last probably between 5 and 10 mins but there are usually after effects for a few hours for me. What's important to know is, this is NOT a recreational drug. Do NOT do it to get fucked, stick to weed for that. You have to approach it knowing that you do not know what is going to happen, and be prepared for that. Best to have a trip sitter.

As far as my own experiences go, they have gotten stronger the more I have done it. I have heard of this before, something about reverse tolerance. It's very hard to break through on your first attempt. A recurrent theme for me is being pulled out of reality, not as abruptly and shockingly as some reports I've heard, into what seem to be past experiences from childhood. I sort of fade from reality into scenes which I do not specifically remember ever occuring but there is a definite feeling of being a child again. For me, these have been quite nice experiences, one involved riding on a fairground train in a park I used to go to when I was younger, another involved me being in playgroup again. on at least two occasions I have felt a guiding voice or presence. The owner of the voice has never been visible to me and it's not really like hearing it, it's that I can imagine it in my head. It's very powerful stuff, I do not recommend it if you are in a bad place emotionally or anything like that.

Lastly, if you do it, don't go expecting anything mindblowing. The first time I did it was very subtle, the last time was powerful to the point that I consciously pulled myself back to reality because I didn't like the intense feeling. I don't think I have yet had a full-blown trip. It seems like a plant with very, very powerful potential but, at risk of sounding like a hippie shaman, you have to respect it. For this reason, I neither recommend or discourage it for anyone. You have to make your own informed decision. Definitely check out the experiences of other users on http://www.erowid.org It's completely unbiased and has hundreds of good and bad trip reports.

I hope this was helpful and I hope if you do it, you'll have a positive experience. I'm pretty sure it can open your mind up in a wonderful way if used correctly.

Gossard_Is_God

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norm

Jeremy1012 wrote:

Done it 5 or 6 times. It's very strange and very unpredictable. supposedly the effects are absolutely unique and unlike other hallucinogens. I wouldn't know having never tried mushrooms or acid. Best to do it in a bong. The main effects, as in the trip, will last probably between 5 and 10 mins but there are usually after effects for a few hours for me. What's important to know is, this is NOT a recreational drug. Do NOT do it to get fucked, stick to weed for that. You have to approach it knowing that you do not know what is going to happen, and be prepared for that. Best to have a trip sitter.

As far as my own experiences go, they have gotten stronger the more I have done it. I have heard of this before, something about reverse tolerance. It's very hard to break through on your first attempt. A recurrent theme for me is being pulled out of reality, not as abruptly and shockingly as some reports I've heard, into what seem to be past experiences from childhood. I sort of fade from reality into scenes which I do not specifically remember ever occuring but there is a definite feeling of being a child again. For me, these have been quite nice experiences, one involved riding on a fairground train in a park I used to go to when I was younger, another involved me being in playgroup again. on at least two occasions I have felt a guiding voice or presence. The owner of the voice has never been visible to me and it's not really like hearing it, it's that I can imagine it in my head. It's very powerful stuff, I do not recommend it if you are in a bad place emotionally or anything like that.

Lastly, if you do it, don't go expecting anything mindblowing. The first time I did it was very subtle, the last time was powerful to the point that I consciously pulled myself back to reality because I didn't like the intense feeling. I don't think I have yet had a full-blown trip. It seems like a plant with very, very powerful potential but, at risk of sounding like a hippie shaman, you have to respect it. For this reason, I neither recommend or discourage it for anyone. You have to make your own informed decision. Definitely check out the experiences of other users on http://www.erowid.org It's completely unbiased and has hundreds of good and bad trip reports.

I hope this was helpful and I hope if you do it, you'll have a positive experience. I'm pretty sure it can open your mind up in a wonderful way if used correctly.

you know jamie, if you like that, you should really try shrooms...sounds to me a better "high" that salvia.....although i haven't had shrooms in like 16 years :eek: shrooms were a great mellow trip....sfrom all i've read, salvia doesn't sound like a lot of fun.....at least until i try it....;)

Jeremy1012

cutback wrote:

you know jamie, if you like that, you should really try shrooms...sounds to me a better "high" that salvia.....although i haven't had shrooms in like 16 years :eek: shrooms were a great mellow trip....sfrom all i've read, salvia doesn't sound like a lot of fun.....at least until i try it....;)

yeah I really want to try , just not had the opportunity yet I wouldn't call Salvia fun, it's more weird, unsettling but potentially profound.

restlesssoul

done it about 15 times.


DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE YOU DO IT. TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY. THE DRUG IS NOT TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY.

as mentioned, read erowid.

pjtaper

Yikes, haven't thought about that stuff in a long time... I'd say it is INTENSE!!! Hard core tripping balls for a few minutes... I had some CRAZY experiences smoking it... just off one hit!
Once my friend thought the was being wrapped up in celophane(sp?) and he was so convincing that I tripped off his trip, tried to avoid getting wrapped up myself and ran for the door, only to fall into the corner of my room, laugh my ass off and knock over a table and chair...
I have also seen one of my best friends FREAK out on the stuff!

elmer

Sounds like a short trip, been there many years ago, not keen to venture back.

gobrowns19

I have a friend that did it, and he said it's not recreational at all, but more educational. He said after he did it, a couple minutes later he layed down and 'laughed the hardest laugh ever,' where he spit and had snot come out. Then he said he was inside a farm silo, and everything was 2-D and he was watching a civilization. The higher up he went in the silo he watched the civilization evolve and evolve until he got to the top where everyone and everything was being grated up in a cheese grater. He tells me still to this day how terrifying, yet mind opening it was.

Ledbetterman10

picture the hardest, non-stop, uncontrollable acid trip......for about 5 minutes.

pjtaper

do not climb a silo while on salvia. do not drive or do anything... make sure you are somewhere very safe, or you could easily jump off a bridge, roof, etc...
it is a short trip, and it is NO JOKE!!! Much more intense than LSD! Like the peak of a serious trip, that is salvia... it should be illegal!

Jeremy1012

pjtaper wrote:

it should be illegal!

No it shouldn't. No drug should be illegal. People just shouldn't take it if they won't be able to handle it. I don't see how you can justify making it a crime for someone to do something to their own body.

BinGnarly

Ive done it about 4 times. The first two times didnt work. The second two were fun. I laughed for what I thought was hours but it was really only about a minute. That happened both times and thats all really. Not worth the 40 dollars a gram in my opinion. But ive heard other people have had some real trips on it.

elmer

pjtaper wrote:

it should be illegal!

so this is the gear you can buy legally on the net? Thought I had heard of it before.

When I was 17 I took a Microdot, my first experience of hallucinogenics, incredible to think what that tiny pill that musta been 2mm in circumference could do to my mental being. I became paralysed to a sofa through cramp in a leg, at the same time I had no idea what to do,think or say, streetlamps were encircled with florescent drippy rainbow colours. I lost touch with the fellows with me on the journey yet at the same time could not break away and go home for fear of.........not sure. Looking in the mirror on just about any trip was a mistake, just a peek, just enough to know that I shouldn´t have green skin.

I´m not sure if anybody really has the strength sustain these kind of kicks forever, has anyone ever built up a cellular tolerance to these drugs?
The Doors Soft Parade album forever reminds me of the near insanity of tripping off my tits.
Jeremy, many people cannot make responsible choices in all aspects of their lives, to legalize all would create havoc.

BinGnarly

elmer wrote:

to legalize all would create havoc.

Amsterdam seems to be doing alright.

yosi1

I've smoked it a bunch of times. It was a pretty hard trip for about 10-15 minutes. Than it just felt like I was really burnt out and headachy for about an hour. So I'd either smoke some more, or smoke pot to get rid of that feeling. It was pretty fun, but I don't think I'd go looking to do it again.