Wow ...take A Seat Boston Redsox

BUFFALO

According to the Boston Herald, Red Sox players "will be issuing a mandate" to MLB that they "will not be getting on the plane later today" if the team's coaching staff isn't paid the same $40,000 for games in Japan.
Mike Lowell has confirmed that the team voted unanimously not to make the scheduled trip to Japan unless the coaches, training staff and equipment staff are compensated

WHAT A BUNCH OF BABIES !!!!!!

I just don't get this at all , not that this doesn't surprise me but come on ... your going to japan. your getting paid your regular salary and yet you still your cryin about 40g ... Now 40g is alot don't get me wrong ... but that's alot to me .... to the teams coaching staff that's only pennies.

chromiam

BUFFALO wrote:

According to the Boston Herald, Red Sox players "will be issuing a mandate" to MLB that they "will not be getting on the plane later today" if the team's coaching staff isn't paid the same $40,000 for games in Japan.
Mike Lowell has confirmed that the team voted unanimously not to make the scheduled trip to Japan unless the coaches, training staff and equipment staff are compensated

WHAT A BUNCH OF BABIES !!!!!!

I just don't get this at all , not that this doesn't surprise me but come on ... your going to japan. your getting paid your regular salary and yet you still your cryin about 40g ... Now 40g is alot don't get me wrong ... but that's alot to me .... to the teams coaching staff that's only pennies.

Old news... but 40G is not pennies to the coaching staff and trainers.. its about 2/5th of some of their yearly salaries.

Solat13

BUFFALO wrote:

According to the Boston Herald, Red Sox players "will be issuing a mandate" to MLB that they "will not be getting on the plane later today" if the team's coaching staff isn't paid the same $40,000 for games in Japan.
Mike Lowell has confirmed that the team voted unanimously not to make the scheduled trip to Japan unless the coaches, training staff and equipment staff are compensated

WHAT A BUNCH OF BABIES !!!!!!

I just don't get this at all , not that this doesn't surprise me but come on ... your going to japan. your getting paid your regular salary and yet you still your cryin about 40g ... Now 40g is alot don't get me wrong ... but that's alot to me .... to the teams coaching staff that's only pennies.

Uh, this was resolved yesterday. The Oakland A's players were going to boycott too.

The issue is that MLB promised to pay bonuses to the entire coaching and training staff for an 18 day trip to Japan in which they would be running many baseball camps and training sessions as well as the team playing the A's and a couple exhibition games.

MLB then reneged on their deal and said bonuses would only be paid to the players and manager. The players than unanimously voted to boycott the games unless the rest of their staff and coaches also received the bonuses that MLB had promised.

MLB then offered up half the money they originally promised and the Red Sox ownership is coming up with the rest.

For most of the training staff and for most of the coaching staff 40,000 is a lot of money. Plus this has to do with a contract being violated more than greed. The Red Sox players only voted to do the Japanese tour after they won World Series if their staff and coaches would be paid an equal share as the players got.

meme

Babies who stick up for the less-wealthy-than-they-are.

:rolleyes:

DaytimeDilemma

For real...did Buffalo even read that?

Solat13

chromiam wrote:

Old news... but 40G is not pennies to the coaching staff and trainers.. its about 2/5th of some of their yearly salaries.

Yep, bullpen catchers only make 60,000 to 80,000. (I know it's relative.) But that 40,000 is an extra half of his salary. The training staff makes about the same. And the clubhouse attendees were also supposed to get a smaller bonus. There are a lot of people that go into a baseball team. Plus other than managers, no one on the coaching staff makes that much money where 40,000 would be looked at as a small amount.

orig_long red

and whats wrong with the training staff being compensated for the trip? the MLB was just being flat cheap here.

chromiam

Solat13 wrote:

Yep, bullpen catchers only make 60,000 to 80,000. (I know it's relative.) But that 40,000 is an extra half of his salary. The training staff makes about the same. And the clubhouse attendees were also supposed to get a smaller bonus. There are a lot of people that go into a baseball team. Plus other than managers, no one on the coaching staff makes that much money where 40,000 would be looked at as a small amount.

Exactly.... and it showed a nice solidarity of the Red Sox players and coaches.

rearviewmiror

I am very proud of the players for taking that stand.

Buffalo, that was not very well thought out and downright embarassing. Sticking up for non union members who make significantly less than them Those greedy bastards.

This is what's wrong with this country. Such a simple thing as this is boiled down to ammunition for hate instead of actually READ or thought about.

BUFFALO

really ....I don't think this has anything to do with solidarity loll ... hell no ...that's to funny ... boycotting its your job ...your just doing your job ... your job is to go where the team goes ... cry me a river ... they don't have to pay for plane fare , hotels , vehicles, food or anything like that ...

the average for the staff is anywhere from 250,000. to 750,000. a million to a great coaching staff.

Stelly

I appreciate that the players stood up for the staff.

That being said, NOBODY should be getting a bonus for going to Japan. Not the players, not the coaches, not the trainers, no one. If my job sends me to Japan, I don't get a bonus for doing it. It's part of my job!

BUFFALO

Stelly wrote:

I appreciate that the players stood up for the staff.

That being said, NOBODY should be getting a bonus for going to Japan. Not the players, not the coaches, not the trainers, no one. If my job sends me to Japan, I don't get a bonus for doing it. It's part of my job!

well i think you said it better than i did ... thats really my whole point

rearviewmiror

They wanted the coaches to get the bonus as well as the trainers. Those folks only make 100,000 not those ridiculous numbers you threw out that you have no basis for.

They were also promised these payments as an incentive to go. They agreed to do it with the stipulation that the coaches and other staff would get the same bonus. You see they could have said NO. Then after all that their coaches and staff got screwed out of something they were promised and that other teams had received on a previous trip.

Learn the facts. They were standing up for their coaches and staff. I can bet that you'd be in here bitching about how pathetic they are if a 20 million dollar athlete got a coach fired.

I am extremely proud to be a fan of this team. Stop comparing apples and oranges. It actually isnt their job to go to Japan, which is why they vote on it. They agreed to and were compensated for their acceptance.

Indifference

Stelly wrote:

I appreciate that the players stood up for the staff.

That being said, NOBODY should be getting a bonus for going to Japan. Not the players, not the coaches, not the trainers, no one. If my job sends me to Japan, I don't get a bonus for doing it. It's part of my job!

Read up on MLB CBA and get back to me. They had a choice to go to Japan not an obligation.

meme

Indifference wrote:

Read up on MLB CBA and get back to me. They had a choice to go to Japan not an obligation.

Precisely.

Are any of you Red Sox bashers among those who rebuke the "whiners": "pearl jam doesn't owe you anything blah blah blah"

Same difference.

inmyrvm

this is the first (and hopefully last) time i will ever stick up for boston anything. there was a deal and mlb was not honoring it. they did the right thing. this was a stupid post, not sure why it was even started. someone looking for a reason to pick on boston, and it backfired.

adam42381

BUFFALO wrote:

really ....I don't think this has anything to do with solidarity loll ... hell no ...that's to funny ... boycotting its your job ...your just doing your job ... your job is to go where the team goes ... cry me a river ... they don't have to pay for plane fare , hotels , vehicles, food or anything like that ...

the average for the staff is anywhere from 250,000. to 750,000. a million to a great coaching staff.

Wow, are you being serious?! It's actually not part of their job. The teams were going to Japan to help MLB promote the game. Part of the reason the teams agreed to go was because of the bonus being paid to each player, coach and trainer who went. They would never have agreed to make the trip had their not been the incentive bonus. MLB reneged on their agreement and the players were looking out for the lower level guys who aren't making millions. The players were getting their bonuses regardless so they were being selfless by looking out for the others. The average staff doesn't make $250,000 to $750,000. Sure, the manager makes millions but the trainers, lower end coaches and bullpen staff make less than 100,000 in some cases. $40,000 is a lot of money to be taken from you when you have been told it's coming. I think you are looking at this from the wrong perspective. You aren't a Yankees fan by any chance are you? Your bashing a group of guys for looking out for their fellow workers who are making far less than they are. They did a GOOD THING!!!

Fighting Hellfish

The Sox deserve credit for fighting for their coaches. Many of those guys (Dava magadan) laid the groundwork for some of today's exorbitant salaries. Dave Magadan probably went on strike in 1994 (not sure if he was still around then) My only problem is, does a guy who makes $30,000 a year, like the bullpen catcher) really deserve 133% of his annual salary for a weeks work? But all in all, I tip my cap to the Sox. Their money was guaranteed. They could have said fuck the coaches, let them figure it out.

adam42381

rearviewmiror wrote:

They wanted the coaches to get the bonus as well as the trainers. Those folks only make 100,000 not those ridiculous numbers you threw out that you have no basis for.

They were also promised these payments as an incentive to go. They agreed to do it with the stipulation that the coaches and other staff would get the same bonus. You see they could have said NO. Then after all that their coaches and staff got screwed out of something they were promised and that other teams had received on a previous trip.

Learn the facts. They were standing up for their coaches and staff. I can bet that you'd be in here bitching about how pathetic they are if a 20 million dollar athlete got a coach fired.

I am extremely proud to be a fan of this team. Stop comparing apples and oranges. It actually isnt their job to go to Japan, which is why they vote on it. They agreed to and were compensated for their acceptance.

You beat me to it. The guys had a choice and made it based on what they were offered. When what was promised wasn't delivered they stuck to their guns. Kind of sounds like a good idea, no?

BUFFALO

Lucchino also pointed out that there’s no difference between playing exhibition games in Japan or in the states, which often happens when the Sox break camp each spring. In recent years, the team has played exhibition games in Atlanta and Philadelphia before starting the regular season.

“They are getting paid for 162 games, not 164,” he said...

thats my point .


redsox ...the evil empire ... lighten up yall its just conversation

gobrowns19

Why would you think the act of this is bad? It's pretty honorable really.

rearviewmiror

BUFFALO wrote:

Lucchino also pointed out that there’s no difference between playing exhibition games in Japan or in the states, which often happens when the Sox break camp each spring. In recent years, the team has played exhibition games in Atlanta and Philadelphia before starting the regular season.

“They are getting paid for 162 games, not 164,” he said...

thats my point .


redsox ...the evil empire ... lighten up yall its just conversation

Except that Lucchino was speaking from a team management point of view and he was wrong. (Not the 1st time) 3 hours to goergia in the same time zone is not the same thing as 17 hours across the world. So much so that in the CBA the players have the power to say NO.

It wasnt just conversation, it was not paying attention and trying to get a Boston hate thing going.

rearviewmiror

BUFFALO wrote:

Lucchino also pointed out that there’s no difference between playing exhibition games in Japan or in the states, which often happens when the Sox break camp each spring. In recent years, the team has played exhibition games in Atlanta and Philadelphia before starting the regular season.

“They are getting paid for 162 games, not 164,” he said...

thats my point .


redsox ...the evil empire ... lighten up yall its just conversation

Except that Lucchino was speaking from a team management point of view and he was wrong. (Not the 1st time) 3 hours to goergia in the same time zone is not the same thing as 17 hours across the world. So much so that in the CBA the players have the power to say NO.

It wasnt just conversation, it was not paying attention and trying to get a Boston hate thing going.

Poncier

Solat13 wrote:

Yep, bullpen catchers only make 60,000 to 80,000. (I know it's relative.) But that 40,000 is an extra half of his salary. The training staff makes about the same. And the clubhouse attendees were also supposed to get a smaller bonus. There are a lot of people that go into a baseball team. Plus other than managers, no one on the coaching staff makes that much money where 40,000 would be looked at as a small amount.

Actually they were talking on the radio yesterday about the bullpen catcher, his salry is 30K, so 40K is more than double.
The deal apparently is for MLB to pay the coaches/staff 20K each, and the Sox players have agreed to make up the difference for them.

As for Buffalo and his original post calling the Sox players babies..dude get a clue, the players were always getting paid, they threatened boycott when the pay for coaches suddenly disappeared, and now they are forking over the difference out of their pockets. This is the furthest thing from overpaid athletes being babies...they stuck up for those far less financially fortunate than themselves.

Drop The Leash 10

Poncier wrote:

Actually they were talking on the radio yesterday about the bullpen catcher, his salry is 30K, so 40K is more than double.
The deal apparently is for MLB to pay the coaches/staff 20K each, and the Sox players have agreed to make up the difference for them.

As for Buffalo and his original post calling the Sox players babies..dude get a clue, the players were always getting paid, they threatened boycott when the pay for coaches suddenly disappeared, and now they are forking over the difference out of their pockets. This is the furthest thing from overpaid athletes being babies...they stuck up for those far less financially fortunate than themselves.

agreed. dude, talk to us when you know what youre talking about.