Church collapses in BC
vedderfan10
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The floor of a church collapsed in Abbotsford during a christian rock concert last night. Everyone fell three metres into the basement below - there were a bunch of non-live-threatening injuries, no deaths....
I guess god doesn't like to party after all...
And I saw this outside a church yesterday and thought it sounded very threatening:
"I also have a list, and I'm checking it twice...God"
I guess god doesn't like to party after all...
And I saw this outside a church yesterday and thought it sounded very threatening:
"I also have a list, and I'm checking it twice...God"
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He's a bitch sometimes isn't He?
take a good look
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- the great Sir Leo Harrison
oh come on mark. it is amusing. religiouspeeps thank god for the most inane things most of the time, so why not think he was behind this collapse?
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
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i just need to say
Why does God have to figure at all? Some people got hurt. And this thread is in danger of using the opportunity to just take the piss out of Christian belief.. again.. as if we haven't got something better to do.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
yeah well you know i aint got nothing better to do.
so tell me then mark..why is it that christians(not all mind you) are so quick to thank God for the goodness in their lives, but when it comes to misfortune, tis as if he doesn't exist?
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Some of us are pretty fickle and naive I guess.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
oh boo hoo mark... who do you think youre talking to? you cant fold like that with me, you know that.
do you accept the bad with the good is all im asking. if God is capable of all the good then surely he's capable of the bad, no? afterall he created it all, didnt he?
take a good look
this could be the day
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i just need to say
No, he didn't. If there's a good side, God, there's a bad side too.. and then there's good old random chance.. Ecclesiastes is all about it.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
no he didn't? he didnt create the bad? so youre telling me he isnt all powerful. omniscient? omnipresent?
no i dont believe that... random chance? why would an omnipotent God leave things to chance? help me here mark.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
You want me to try and convert you right here, right now, on a message board? We both know it ain't gonna happen... you'll just continually tell me how illogical I am. It'll be fun for you and not for me.
But to vaguely answer your questions, it depends entirely what you mean by all-powerful and all-knowing.. My belief on that definitely isn't traditional.. I certainly don't believe God controls everything like clockwork, and I don't believe God knows everything I'll ever do to the letter.. I subscribe to the 'Openness of God' theory or 'Open Theism'.. I'd suggest you read a bit about it if you're interested, it's pretty fascinating.
Edit: by the way, no, I don't think God created bad. But he created potential for decay and evil, because that potential is present in everything which is created.
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
you're not gonna convert me. you know that. i know that. everyone who reads my posts knows that. and thats not what im asking. and no it wont be fun for me. dont you know me well enough to know that nothing is fun for me mark... nothing.
i know there are different camps that ascribe different powers to God. one says he created EVERYTHING and controls everything. another says he created the earth but thats it...everything after that is man's doing. its confusing.
i'm asking for guidance here. you of all people know i need something. i dont ask these questions lightly.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
I'd be happy to talk about this stuff by e-mail.. we're writing to each other already, this might give me more to say.. I'll work on something later if you like?
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
yeah well youve been a bit slack in that department since youve found your happy, mark.
sure i'll respond to anything you care to write me.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
I got your latest this morning... I'll write back tonight
- the great Sir Leo Harrison
Yuk, Yuk, Yuk
Hope everyone heals well.
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Prepare for tending to your garden, America.
Anyway, that band must have been awesome - they brought down the house!
The kids were left lying in their own pew? Anyone?