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Ticketmaster and NFL Scalping "Legally"

Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
edited December 2007 in All Encompassing Trip
I thought NFL was against scalping tickets ?

I realize Ticketmaster sucks but the NFL getting in bed with this ?


Supply and Demand, sadly


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3159251




NFL, Ticketmaster ink licensing deal for online ticket resale service
Associated Press

Updated: December 18, 2007, 12:52 AM ET

LOS ANGELES -- Ticketmaster plans to launch a Web site next year where people can resell tickets to pro football games, the latest push by the event ticketing company into the lucrative secondary ticket market.

The company signed a multiyear deal with the National Football League that includes branding and promotion for the site, Ticketmaster said in a statement being released Tuesday. Financial terms were not disclosed.

West Hollywood-based Ticketmaster already operates separate, so-called ticket exchange sites for 18 NFL teams, which allow ticket holders to resell their game tickets online.

The latest deal moves those teams and adds four others to the new portal set for debut sometime next year, said Ticketmaster, which is owned by New York-based Internet conglomerate IAC/InterActiveCorp.

Resales are a growing slice of the ticket market for sporting events, concerts and other events, but Ticketmaster lags other online ticket resale outlets such as StubHub, which is owned by eBay Inc., and auction sites such as eBay itself.

"It's fair to say we're an underdog in the category right now," said Eric Korman, Ticketmaster's executive vice president. "We need to really aggressively compete to win dollars and grow ahead of the competition."

Ticketmaster plans to guarantee the resold tickets, which are sent to buyers electronically, just like it does with its regular primary ticket sales.

The company is counting on that security feature and the NFL branding to woo prospective ticket buyers and sellers.

"It's going to be safe, it's going to be reliable, it's going to be efficient," Korman said. "When you show up at the gate, you're ensured that ticket is going to be valid."

The company profits on the secondary sales by charging the seller and the buyer a percentage of the resale price.

Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    The only thing good about the TM or other "licensed" brokers, is that some of the prpofit goes to the team/artist. With ebay and stubhub and the like, all of the profit goes to the seller and the site.

    I'm curious to see if the league puts any cap on the selling prices. If they don't allow sellers to sell for rediculously high resale prices, then it might not be so bad.
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  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    Some teams have been doing this already thru StubHub and RazorGator. And if the NFL does do this, the Pats reportedly will make sure that all their tickets do not sell for more than face value as per Massachusetts law.
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    chromiam wrote:
    Some teams have been doing this already thru StubHub and RazorGator. And if the NFL does do this, the Pats reportedly will make sure that all their tickets do not sell for more than face value as per Massachusetts law.

    That's kinda what I am getting at... if they can guarantee that the tickets are legit, and sellers can't sell for much more than face value, it is a good idea for just about everyone involved.
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  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    blackredyellow wrote:
    That's kinda what I am getting at... if they can guarantee that the tickets are legit, and sellers can't sell for much more than face value, it is a good idea for just about everyone involved.

    Problem is that the Pats are the only team doing that because of MA law. Other teams are actually having the legislature change anti-scalping laws so that they are not violating them by selling above face value.
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  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    blackredyellow wrote:
    The only thing good about the TM or other "licensed" brokers, is that some of the prpofit goes to the team/artist. With ebay and stubhub and the like, all of the profit goes to the seller and the site.

    I'm curious to see if the league puts any cap on the selling prices. If they don't allow sellers to sell for rediculously high resale prices, then it might not be so bad.

    Cap would be nice

    Not every state has that law unfortunately
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  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    chromiam wrote:
    Some teams have been doing this already thru StubHub and RazorGator. And if the NFL does do this, the Pats reportedly will make sure that all their tickets do not sell for more than face value as per Massachusetts law.


    The RazorGator website had a link on the Eagles website awhile ago

    A lot of the fans complained that it was there and the team removed it

    I remember when single game tickets when on-sale RazorGator had tickets before they went on sale !!
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  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    blackredyellow wrote:
    That's kinda what I am getting at... if they can guarantee that the tickets are legit, and sellers can't sell for much more than face value, it is a good idea for just about everyone involved.


    Some how I doubt the tickets will be sold for a reasonable price

    Unless there are laws in states, but other than that we get screwed

    I've used Stubhub before in a pinch and paid way over face value

    I wonder if they will have the auction feature that Stubhub has now ?
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  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    Now that the 2 are working together you can't tell me TM wont get tickets directly from teams to sell on this website before the public even gets a shot at them

    I think it stinks the NFL is doing this
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  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    Some how I doubt the tickets will be sold for a reasonable price

    Unless there are laws in states, but other than that we get screwed

    I've used Stubhub before in a pinch and paid way over face value

    I wonder if they will have the auction feature that Stubhub has now ?

    I think it all depends on demand. If tickets for a game are in high demand then the prices will be high. If not, then tickets should be reasonably priced. I've used StubHub in the past and have gotten tickets at or slightly above face value. I've also seen tickets going for ridiculous amounts of money.

    Here's a good article about the whole thing from ESPN.com:
    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=easterbrook/071211
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  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    chromiam wrote:
    I think it all depends on demand. If tickets for a game are in high demand then the prices will be high. If not, then tickets should be reasonably priced. I've used StubHub in the past and have gotten tickets at or slightly above face value. I've also seen tickets going for ridiculous amounts of money.

    Here's a good article about the whole thing from ESPN.com:
    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=easterbrook/071211


    I just think it's greed from the league

    I don't think they should be promoting scalping for their games, if all the tickets were re-sold for face value that would be fine

    "How long until the leagues go all the way and sell their tickets directly for whatever the market will bear? That is, rather than sell individual game tickets for, say, $50, why not offer them at auction? Rather than sell a season ticket of 10 $50 games for $500, why not open an auction and say, "What do you bid?"

    ^^ This is what I'm worried about
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  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    I agree. They see an opportunity to make more money for themselves. As well as sell more season ticket packages and guarantee that they at least get face value for every available ticket. And also get a piece of the resale market. It's a business and that's how they are approaching it, but at the same time they are risking alienating alot of fans.
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  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    chromiam wrote:
    Some teams have been doing this already thru StubHub and RazorGator. And if the NFL does do this, the Pats reportedly will make sure that all their tickets do not sell for more than face value as per Massachusetts law.

    the massachusetts ticket resale law is a total and complete joke. there are tons of "brokers" in the state that jack up prices on everything and anything.

    at least the pats are hard-asses and go after stubhub and revoke season tickets of people that they catch reselling their pats tickets as opposed to the do nothing red sox.
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