vicky christina barcelona

decides2dream

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Heineken Helen

decides2dream wrote:

i just rewathced matchpoint again, last night. scarlett sure as shit ain't no great actress, but for whatever reason...i still enjoy her to a degree. perhaps even other hetero women can still enjoy her sultriness. my husband however, can't stand her!


woody's last film cassandra's dream was an utter disappointment to me....even with ewan macgregor. so it was nice for him to return to something more 'familiar'...even with being set yet again in a foreign country...outside of his usal beloved NYC. this makes 4 movies in a row set in europe for him..interesting. back to his usual, and strong subjects. bardem was brilliant as usual...cruz was fiery as ever...and i truly enjoyed relative? newcomoer rebacca hall. oh and i always love patricia clarkson.

I think she IS gorgeous.. but a really crap actress. I usually HATE Woody Allen films too but I will watch it for Javier Bardem

decides2dream

Heineken Helen wrote:

I think she IS gorgeous.. but a really crap actress. I usually HATE Woody Allen films too but I will watch it for Javier Bardem

yes, there is *something* about her looks....very voluptious, yet innocent/girl next door. she is a fairly crap actress, but sadly so are many. my husband can't stand her b/c she is a crap actress, and yes....he doesn't find her at all attractive. totally not his type.....he likes more of the waif look, and/or....errrrrr.....more like me?


as far as vicky christina barcelona seriously, ALL the other actors more than make up for johannsen....all totally top-notch and great performances, even in the most supportive of roles. really, really good....and quite a bit steamy, while also the trademark woody humor and human relationship observations....

MrBrian

I liked it, the g/f took me to see it a few day's ago.

I did have a few issues with it, but yeah good movie and mostly good acting.

Heineken Helen

decides2dream wrote:

yes, there is *something* about her looks....very voluptious, yet innocent/girl next door. she is a fairly crap actress, but sadly so are many. my husband can't stand her b/c she is a crap actress, and yes....he doesn't find her at all attractive. totally not his type.....he likes more of the waif look, and/or....errrrrr.....more like me?


as far as vicky christina barcelona seriously, ALL the other actors more than make up for johannsen....all totally top-notch and great performances, even in the most supportive of roles. really, really good....and quite a bit steamy, while also the trademark woody humor and human relationship observations....

well, even though I think she's a crap actress, she wouldn't turn me off going to see a film cos she is easy on the eye and has a face/body made for the screen... and tbh, I think I'd quite enjoy the kiss between her and Penelope Cruz perhaps her acting skills will one day catch up... I actually have a feeling she WILL be a good actress one day! So yeh, it would be more Woody Allen that would turn me off seeing it cos I don't think I've enjoyed ANY of his films :eek: but I will still see it

decides2dream

MrBrian wrote:

I liked it, the g/f took me to see it a few day's ago.

I did have a few issues with it, but yeah good movie and mostly good acting.

may i ask what issues?
i am not saying it is some ridiculously spectacular film....but i think it's really solid, and good! i can't really think of any 'issues' i had with it, at all. and believe me, even movies that i love often times there are scenes and/or dialogue/story arcs that i have 'issues' with.....:p.....so i do wonder.


of course, if sharing such is a spoiler to the film, do please state *spoiler* beofore your post!


helen, if you don't like woody allens writing/directing style, i highly doubt this film would change your mind. i am a woody fan. obviously, not every one of his films do i think is great...not by a longshot...but i love many, and i love his style.

MrBrian

decides2dream wrote:

may i ask what issues?
i am not saying it is some ridiculously spectacular film....but i think it's really solid, and good! i can't really think of any 'issues' i had with it, at all. and believe me, even movies that i love often times there are scenes and/or dialogue/story arcs that i have 'issues' with.....:p.....so i do wonder.


of course, if sharing such is a spoiler to the film, do please state *spoiler* beofore your post!


helen, if you don't like woody allens writing/directing style, i highly doubt this film would change your mind. i am a woody fan. obviously, not every one of his films do i think is great...not by a longshot...but i love many, and i love his style.

I don't mind woody allen films, I went into this movie with an open mind and like you said, even great movies or movies people love have problems with them. So perhaps it doesnt matter.

Well on that note, I think the movie did not reach deep enough into the spanish feel. It's hard to explain. They tried, but they did not quite make it. So it throws the whole movie off for me.

But yeah otherwiese it was good. I liked it.

decides2dream

MrBrian wrote:

I don't mind woody allen films, I went into this movie with an open mind and like you said, even great movies or movies people love have problems with them. So perhaps it doesnt matter.

Well on that note, I think the movie did not reach deep enough into the spanish feel. It's hard to explain. They tried, but they did not quite make it. So it throws the whole movie off for me.

But yeah otherwiese it was good. I liked it.

i getcha.
however, on that issue...i think it's purposeful. it's mostly about 2 upper-class american girls and their travels...and yes, it was obvious that while they said they were about 'experiencing spain'...it was more insular and about THEM. i mean it was often brought up how christina did not speak spanish, nor tried....and yes, vicky was studying catalan culture, and yet seemed to be not well-informed...so i think it was meant to be like that, part of their characters...and part of who they are, and how the film transpired...all parts of the 'why' things were the way they were. i do agree though, visually and culturally...i wouldn've enjoyed more 'spain'...bu ti don't really think that was the point of the film. just imo of course.


thanks for sharing though b/c i was curious what you were referencing.

MrBrian

(Spoiler?)

Well of course I guess it was not the point of the film, but I felt that the movie tried to get the spainsh feel, but failed at the attempt, that's why it spoilt it a bit.

You know, some of the writing was a bit off, or perhaps some of the acting? But I think you are viewing the movie mainly on it's subject matter. Which is fair, I also think the movie was very unique. I guess based just on what it's about, yes then it's a great movie, touched on enough issues. I'm pissed that the other girls husband couldnt pick up that his wife was sorta cheating.

He believed the gun shot wound story?...made me laugh, it's possible I guess, but perhaps it was just his nature to be so blind. I wonder how he votes? anyway, that's another topic.

decides2dream

MrBrian wrote:

(Spoiler?)

Well of course I guess it was not the point of the film, but I felt that the movie tried to get the spainsh feel, but failed at the attempt, that's why it spoilt it a bit.

You know, some of the writing was a bit off, or perhaps some of the acting? But I think you are viewing the movie mainly on it's subject matter. Which is fair, I also think the movie was very unique. I guess based just on what it's about, yes then it's a great movie, touched on enough issues. I'm pissed that the other girls husband couldnt pick up that his wife was sorta cheating.

He believed the gun shot wound story?...made me laugh, it's possible I guess, but perhaps it was just his nature to be so blind. I wonder how he votes? anyway, that's another topic.

exactly....and also he would just never *think* she would be like that. i mean really...from the beginning of the film, it was like it was SO out of character for her to do what she did.


see, i never really thought of any focus being on spain really. sure, there was a bit....but a passing tease, and i think it was purposeful to the story. especially a woody movie, it's always about the characters interactions. i mean hell, the bulk of his films are based in NYC, it's almost another character...and yet it's not. i think the sae here.


i thought the film was very tightly written, and that isn't always the case with woody films...so i really liked that. i LOVED the ending, i thought it perfection. i think it was such a woody allen flick...and a really high caliber one. scarlett seems to be his leading lady du jour. once upon a time...diane keaton...mia farrow. guess it's scarlett's 'time.'


anyhoo....i enjoy reading your posts. it's nice to actually discuss the film!

ladygooddiva

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