Is it true about bees?

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  • gobrowns19gobrowns19 Posts: 1,447
    I read recently when a wasp stings you, 'alarm pheremones' are released and the others can sense it and will kind of flock to that area in an alert mode, crazy huh?

    But yeah, wasps are mean. My dad was trying to get a nest down from the basketball hoop and one came right to me really fast and got me right in the neck. It hurt so bad.

    My last one was last summer, which was understandable, I accidentally stepped on it. I didn't have an arch in my foot for a week.
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  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • jamie ukjamie uk Posts: 3,812
    That looks pretty handy dunk, do you think it would work on dogs? Not zapp them dead, just give them a little jolt, enough to get them to piss off :)
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  • eMMIeMMI Posts: 6,262
    dunkman wrote:

    I absolutely hate being around people who are handling one of those. :eek: scares me to death, no matter who that other person is, I'm always sure they're gonna zap me. :o



    those are handy though. :D
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  • eMMIeMMI Posts: 6,262
    jamie uk wrote:
    That looks pretty handy dunk, do you think it would work on dogs? Not zapp them dead, just give them a little jolt, enough to get them to piss off :)

    :eek:
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • ClimberInOzClimberInOz Posts: 216
    Only a few species of Bees die when they sting you (out of 20 000). Those that do have barbs on their stingers that hook into your tissue. Unfortunately for the bees, when the stinger is lodged and they fly away, they tend to leave the majority of their gut behind as well as the stinger.

    The entire reason why this works on an evolutionary level is because you need to think of it at a colony level, and not at an individual bee level.

    A queen bee will lay two different types of eggs- unfertalised and fertalised. Unfertalised eggs develop into drones, which are capable of reproducing. Fertalised eggs develop into worker bees which are not capable of reproducing.

    Now it is the worker bees that sting and die, but since they are already sterile, their evolutionary pathway has already been cut off. But their being able to sting is of benifit to the colony and the queen bee, as it can protect the colony.

    So the gene for stinging and dying is subject to natural selection... just at a queen bee/colony level, not at the worker bee level.

    When this evolutionary pathway developed, those queen bees that produced stinging workers would have had an evolutionary advantage over those that didn't, and therefore it was their genes that passed from generation to generation.
  • TrixieCatTrixieCat Posts: 5,756
    jamie uk wrote:
    That looks pretty handy dunk, do you think it would work on dogs? Not zapp them dead, just give them a little jolt, enough to get them to piss off :)
    You stick to GENTLY tapping them on the nose with your rolled up newspaper!
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  • urbanhippieurbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    Wasps suck...

    One just flew in my window and stung my arm :(
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  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    i lost my wasp sting cherry last Sunday..

    34 years of life and i'd never been stung.

    little fuckers
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,689
    dunkman wrote:
    i lost my wasp sting cherry last Sunday..

    34 years of life and i'd never been stung.

    little fuckers
    They're assholes for sure.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    Rygar wrote:
    They're assholes for sure.


    damn straight!!


    i always thought i'd be funny if Sting was allergic to being stung... and Madonna was allergic to religious iconography... ok not funny but mildly amusing...
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    Only a few species of Bees die when they sting you (out of 20 000). Those that do have barbs on their stingers that hook into your tissue. Unfortunately for the bees, when the stinger is lodged and they fly away, they tend to leave the majority of their gut behind as well as the stinger.

    The entire reason why this works on an evolutionary level is because you need to think of it at a colony level, and not at an individual bee level.

    A queen bee will lay two different types of eggs- unfertalised and fertalised. Unfertalised eggs develop into drones, which are capable of reproducing. Fertalised eggs develop into worker bees which are not capable of reproducing.

    Now it is the worker bees that sting and die, but since they are already sterile, their evolutionary pathway has already been cut off. But their being able to sting is of benifit to the colony and the queen bee, as it can protect the colony.

    So the gene for stinging and dying is subject to natural selection... just at a queen bee/colony level, not at the worker bee level.

    When this evolutionary pathway developed, those queen bees that produced stinging workers would have had an evolutionary advantage over those that didn't, and therefore it was their genes that passed from generation to generation.

    wow. you're one of those guys that has a giant bee beard arent you? :D
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
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  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,689
    dunkman wrote:
    damn straight!!


    i always thought i'd be funny if Sting was allergic to being stung... and Madonna was allergic to religious iconography... ok not funny but mildly amusing...
    Yeah, I could laugh at that.


    I remember once I was standing on a spot where some wasps had built their nest in the ground (why they did it right under my feet is beyond me) and they swarmed me and got in my pant legs. Didn't make it all the way to the equator, but they were in the legs for a long time.
    That was a bad day.
  • dunkman wrote:
    damn straight!!


    i always thought i'd be funny if Sting was allergic to being stung... and Madonna was allergic to religious iconography... ok not funny but mildly amusing...

    LOL and if George Michael was allergic to gay men... Robert Palmer was allergic to stop-motion animation...
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  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    Rygar wrote:
    Yeah, I could laugh at that.


    I remember once I was standing on a spot where some wasps had built their nest in the ground (why they did it right under my feet is beyond me) and they swarmed me and got in my pant legs. Didn't make it all the way to the equator, but they were in the legs for a long time.
    That was a bad day.

    oh thats sounds pretty bad.. the equator :D.... yeah dont want your longitude being stung! :D

    so Muhammed Ali would also be allergic to muslims, Michael J Fox would be allergic to foxes and OJ Simpson would be allergic to brutally slaughtering people.

    ok i'll stop that now.

    although i'll probably keep doing them in my head and just giggle to myself at work. :o
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkman wrote:
    oh thats sounds pretty bad.. the equator :D.... yeah dont want your longitude being stung! :D

    so Muhammed Ali would also be allergic to muslims, Michael J Fox would be allergic to foxes and OJ Simpson would be allergic to brutally slaughtering people.

    ok i'll stop that now.

    although i'll probably keep doing them in my head and just giggle to myself at work. :o

    As long as you share em with me... I'm laughing here :D
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,689
    As long as you share em with me... I'm laughing here :D
    Seconded.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    Joan Rivers would be allergic to 16 year old female revolutionaries from France, and yeah ok, rivers... Tom Cruise would be allergic to the 70's tv show The Love Boat and scots actor luvvie Alan Cumming would be allergic to porn


    edit: there must be a stupid thread idea in this somewhere. Silly allergies for famous people... i'm so shit at titles :D
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkman wrote:
    Joan Rivers would be allergic to 16 year old female revolutionaries from France, and yeah ok, rivers... Tom Cruise would be allergic to the 70's tv show The Love Boat and scots actor luvvie Alan Cumming would be allergic to porn


    edit: there must be a stupid thread idea in this somewhere. Silly allergies for famous people... i'm so shit at titles :D

    Do it!! :D
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
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