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Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
edited March 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
Alcohol sucks, I should stop drinking? Last night myself and some friends went to one of our friends house for a little gathering. Her boyfriend was also there and 3 of his friends came. We all had a laugh, her boyfriend's mates were all great and everyone was having a good time. My friend and her boyfriend also live with a PhD student who is 6 years older, an alcoholic and, from what we witnessed last night, a total mess. He decided to join us at about 1am by walking into the living room, asking if he could sit down and then proceeded to miss the chair by about 6 feet, falling straight into the fireplace and then looking around aimlessly for about a minute while we helped him up. He then proceeded to start a barely coherent discussion about jewish ethnicity (claiming that he is jewish, though I don't know if this is the case) and then berated me and one of these other guys for having aryan colouring and told us that we were fascist scum.

At first it was funny, then it was irritating, then it was just sad. It was so obvious that his mind is practically gone and he apparently spends EVERY night like this. It was so depressing. he then started acting really creepy towards my friend and telling her she was really pretty, as she sat with her boyfriend. I and another guy had to leave the room eventually because we were both about ready to hit the guy but he's obviously just not well. I don't know how a young person gets like that. He looks about 15 years older than he is, drinks 2 bottles of wine at least every night and my friend has to live with him. He was also once found by her boyfriend staring through a little window at the top of the stairs to her room while she was sleeping.

Now I know how to have a good time when drunk but things like that just make me think about what alcohol can do to people. It's just depressing as hell. Certainly put me off drinking for the rest of the night.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
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  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Sounds like he was fucked up to start with.
  • upina2001upina2001 Indiana Posts: 764
    Ive got a buddy who is a social drinker. Cant just have one or two, but only on weekends. He gets so shit-faced...but Ive never seen him puke. talks about being an alcoholic, but he only pounds em on the weekend. But yeah, he gets incoherant, annoying, but never really crosses the line with women. Ive been around jerks like that before and they can really ruin a party; Especially when there are cute women around.


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  • stargirl69stargirl69 Posts: 6,387
    Think he's got bigger issues going on and the alcohol is fuelling his behaviour.
    My friend is an alcoholic as is her dad.When we were teenagers her dad used to get ripped then storm into her room when we were all there and accuse us of all sorts of weird shit,plotting his death,drugs and group sex (I wish ;D).It would get so bad we would all leave.
    But strangely as my friends own alcohol use has increased over the years her behaviour has elements of her dads when he was ripped out of his mind.I struggle with it as she used to tell us about how bad it was to live with an alcoholic but now she's putting her own kids through the same shit.Watching her fall into the abyss has made me view alcohol very very differently and I rarely drink.As a group of friends we have spent years trying to help but got fed up as she was always the one we would need to get home safely and pour her into bed,or lift her out of the gutter.We rarely invite her out anymore as she's such a liability.
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  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    stargirl69 wrote:
    Think he's got bigger issues going on and the alcohol is fuelling his behaviour.
    My friend is an alcoholic as is her dad.When we were teenagers her dad used to get ripped then storm into her room when we were all there and accuse us of all sorts of weird shit,plotting his death,drugs and group sex (I wish ;D).It would get so bad we would all leave.
    But strangely as my friends own alcohol use has increased over the years her behaviour has elements of her dads when he was ripped out of his mind.I struggle with it as she used to tell us about how bad it was to live with an alcoholic but now she's putting her own kids through the same shit.Watching her fall into the abyss has made me view alcohol very very differently and I rarely drink.As a group of friends we have spent years trying to help but got fed up as she was always the one we would need to get home safely and pour her into bed,or lift her out of the gutter.We rarely invite her out anymore as she's such a liability.
    Yeah he's definitely got bigger issues, he must do. After all of the insulting and suggesting that I was inferior because I wasn't jewish, he eventually collapsed into self-pitying and talking about how he was a fuck-up but every time someone asked him why he thought that, he kept talking about the situation in the middle east and how I couldn't understand, being blonde :rolleyes: I just feel really sorry for my friend. she seems genuinely scared of him and, even though her boyfriend lives there too and he tells her she doesn't need to worry, I don't like the idea of her living with a guy that watches her while she sleeps. Alcoholic and depressive or not, if he ever laid a finger on her I wouldn't be responsible for my actions.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • stargirl69stargirl69 Posts: 6,387
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    he eventually collapsed into self-pitying and talking about how he was a fuck-up



    Yep I'm hearing that my friend does that all the time.Iv'e had 20+ years of her self pity after ruining everyones else night.
    I am sad for your friend.If she doesnt feel safe she needs to look after herself and think about moving out.
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    It is poison afterall...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • urbanhippieurbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    My ex father-in-law is an alcoholic. Of course, he denies it. But I found out that when he visited the kids last weekend (I wasn't there, the kids were with their dad), even though he pre-arranged it, he still turned up absolutely wrecked :mad:

    My point is, theres only so much you can do to help people. Ultimately they have to admit the problem, and want to help themselves.

    You are right to worry about your friends. People in this state can be unpredictable and don't always have the same inhibitions as everyone else.

    Be there for your friends J. And have a word with this girls b/f. He's putting her in a certain amount of danger by allowing this situation to continue.
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  • in_hiding79in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    Vedder drinks about two bottles of wine or more a night as well.....especially on tour!! ;)
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  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    urbanhippie wrote:
    My ex father-in-law is an alcoholic. Of course, he denies it. But I found out that when he visited the kids last weekend (I wasn't there, the kids were with their dad), even though he pre-arranged it, he still turned up absolutely wrecked :mad:

    My point is, theres only so much you can do to help people. Ultimately they have to admit the problem, and want to help themselves.

    You are right to worry about your friends. People in this state can be unpredictable and don't always have the same inhibitions as everyone else.

    Be there for your friends J. And have a word with this girls b/f. He's putting her in a certain amount of danger by allowing this situation to continue.
    Well her boyfriend is very caring and seemed genuinely concerned last night but is trying not to make a big deal out of it while they find somewhere else to live. This guy is clearly not well and has a major problem but her boyfriend seems to think that this guy is scared of him (though he isn't a scary person, he's really nice) and would never do anything. He's the quiet, keeps himself to himself guy. Apparently they can go weeks without seeing him. yesterday was the first time he had ever come out and sat with them when they had had friends around. Even so, fucked up but harmless or not, if he ever tries anything with my friend I'll tear him in two. I have a rather insanely intense protective nature when it comes to friends.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • urbanhippieurbanhippie Posts: 3,007
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Well her boyfriend is very caring and seemed genuinely concerned last night but is trying not to make a big deal out of it while they find somewhere else to live. This guy is clearly not well and has a major problem but her boyfriend seems to think that this guy is scared of him (though he isn't a scary person, he's really nice) and would never do anything. He's the quiet, keeps himself to himself guy. Apparently they can go weeks without seeing him. yesterday was the first time he had ever come out and sat with them when they had had friends around. Even so, fucked up but harmless or not, if he ever tries anything with my friend I'll tear him in two. I have a rather insanely intense protective nature when it comes to friends.
    The thing is, alcohol makes people uninhibited and unpredictable. While I know you're very protective of your friends :) It's too late to do something about it afterwards.
    You're doing the right thing by discussing your concerns with your friends, and being there for them. Lets hope they can find another place to live asap and leave this person to their own devices.
    And hopefully he'll realise that his situation has got out of hand and take steps to address his issues.
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