I work for a company with 40,000+ employees. We just had layoffs last week but the holiday parties are still going to be held(regionally). They tend to be in convention space with a theme and a bunch of food stations. Beer and wine are on tap for adult beverages at each site
Boston 9-28-04, 5-24-06, 5-25-06, 5-17-10, 8-5-16, 8-7-16, 9-2-18, 9-4-18 Ft Worth 9-15-23
Hartford 5-13-06, 6-27-08, 10-25-13
Mansfield, MA 6-30-08, 6-28-08, 7-2-03, 7-3-03, 7-11-03, 8-29-00, 8-30-00, 9-15-98, 9-16-98
Worcester 10-15-13, 10-16-13
Electrical or mechanical? In my experience, it is essential that the electrical engineers detail their designs down to the last conductor, but the mechanical installation details end up being thrown out the window by the guys doing the installation.
There's a lot more to it on this job. We also have civil, structural, process, piping and control systems. I'm in control systems.
This job alone has over 16,000 drawings.
In the control systems alone there's over 16,000 instruments.
Engineers do the ordering. Designers make the designs based on the engineers orders. Electrical works with the power needed by all in the cable tray supported by the pipe rack layout the pipers are using and control systems inserts any controls for flow, density, moisture, pressure, level, etc.
It goes on and on and on. At the site alone we have over 2500 people.
***ding ding ding*** fucking perfect!
I'm on the side, where all the drawings and shit are ordered up and approved then we order the material and then all hell breaks loose :mad:
Hahaha. That's the nature of the beast. Are you an electrical contractor?
1/12/1879, 4/8/1156, 2/6/1977, who gives a shit, ...
There's a lot more to it on this job. We also have civil, structural, process, piping and control systems. I'm in control systems.
This job alone has over 16,000 drawings.
In the control systems alone there's over 16,000 instruments.
Engineers do the ordering. Designers make the designs based on the engineers orders. Electrical works with the power needed by all in the cable tray supported by the pipe rack layout the pipers are using and control systems inserts any controls for flow, density, moisture, pressure, level, etc.
It goes on and on and on. At the site alone we have over 2500 people.
That's huge. I hope that there is a good commissioning checklist to work off of. I'm a controls/automation guy myself (although I do dabble in power a little). What kind of DCS are you using to accomodate 16000 instruments? Is this a greenfield nuclear power plant or something? I'm not sure that there are 16000 instruments at all the kraft/paper mills that I do most of my work at around here.
1/12/1879, 4/8/1156, 2/6/1977, who gives a shit, ...
No, I'm the Electrical Distributor (the middle man) but you'd think I was the fucking engineer!
Hahaha. When we fuck up (or better yet when requirements change), we want it corrected by you yesterday. Make it fucking happen (that's my favourite quote when I'm under pressure to get stuff delivered when I'm on-site).
1/12/1879, 4/8/1156, 2/6/1977, who gives a shit, ...
Hahaha. When we fuck up (or better yet when requirements change), we want it corrected by you yesterday. Make it fucking happen (that's my favourite quote when I'm under pressure to get stuff delivered when I'm on-site).
You people make me cry on a daily basis!
The best use of Life is Love.
The best expression of Love is Time.
The best time to Love is Now.
We get nothing for an Xmas Party...well, we have to organize our own and then pay $40 each for one...but we don't even get cab rides home or anything - and I work for the health authority...
Fortunately, I have a NIN concert the night of the staff party....
We get nothing for an Xmas Party...well, we have to organize our own and then pay $40 each for one...but we don't even get cab rides home or anything - and I work for the health authority...
Fortunately, I have a NIN concert the night of the staff party....
That NIN concert sounds like a way better deal to me
The best use of Life is Love.
The best expression of Love is Time.
The best time to Love is Now.
That's huge. I hope that there is a good commissioning checklist to work off of. I'm a controls/automation guy myself (although I do dabble in power a little). What kind of DCS are you using to accomodate 16000 instruments? Is this a greenfield nuclear power plant or something? I'm not sure that there are 16000 instruments at all the kraft/paper mills that I do most of my work at around here.
It's a higher grade polysilicon plant. After the expansion we put in next summer to double the gas intake we'll hit over 20,000 instruments.
As far as the DCS, it's an effing mess. I've been doing loop check the last few months, and well...they have all the loop folders broken down by J-Box, and then by Segment, and many of the instruments have their own loop diagram and we have one instrument to shoot for just one folder. Plus the client wanted it broken down by system, so we'll go to a junction box and then out to the instruments and only shoot maybe 3 loops out of that box rather than just the whole box because they want the plant turned over to them by the system breakdown and don't want us wasting time on other instruments....even though we're there.
So we have more than half with Yokogawa and their DCS interface. Then we have some on Foundation Fieldbus, and then the rest are just local points to a PLC or MCC, or whatever local panel is there. It's been a fun time, and oh boy, commissioning will be dessert! I'm outta here though after loop check, I don't have much part in commissioning, the client wants their own operators and techs to take over and we'll move on to finishing the gas close. I feel bad for those sticking around for commissioning, however, they're going to make a killing on overtime. I already am on Loop Check. I haven't had less than 70 hours in a week in over two months. Isn't this business great?
Oh, and all this doesn't even include the mechanical packages we have that were as-built packages brought into the plant!
It's a higher grade polysilicon plant. After the expansion we put in next summer to double the gas intake we'll hit over 20,000 instruments.
As far as the DCS, it's an effing mess. I've been doing loop check the last few months, and well...they have all the loop folders broken down by J-Box, and then by Segment, and many of the instruments have their own loop diagram and we have one instrument to shoot for just one folder. Plus the client wanted it broken down by system, so we'll go to a junction box and then out to the instruments and only shoot maybe 3 loops out of that box rather than just the whole box because they want the plant turned over to them by the system breakdown and don't want us wasting time on other instruments....even though we're there.
So we have more than half with Yokogawa and their DCS interface. Then we have some on Foundation Fieldbus, and then the rest are just local points to a PLC or MCC, or whatever local panel is there. It's been a fun time, and oh boy, commissioning will be dessert! I'm outta here though after loop check, I don't have much part in commissioning, the client wants their own operators and techs to take over and we'll move on to finishing the gas close. I feel bad for those sticking around for commissioning, however, they're going to make a killing on overtime. I already am on Loop Check. I haven't had less than 70 hours in a week in over two months. Isn't this business great?
Oh, and all this doesn't even include the mechanical packages we have that were as-built packages brought into the plant!
You don't get to tune any of those loops? Kind of a let down to just check the wiring and leave it at that (although 2 months of 70 hour weeks will wear you out). Is the Yokogawa any good? I've only used Foxboro and Bailey (ABB) DCS since I'm more of a PLC guy.
1/12/1879, 4/8/1156, 2/6/1977, who gives a shit, ...
You don't get to tune any of those loops? Kind of a let down to just check the wiring and leave it at that (although 2 months of 70 hour weeks will wear you out). Is the Yokogawa any good? I've only used Foxboro and Bailey (ABB) DCS since I'm more of a PLC guy.
This is my first DCS job, but it actually hasn't been that bad at all. I've always been in smaller scale stuff using mostly Allen Bradley PLC's, and dabbled with Festo a little bit. But now it's all big scale for me.
Well we're shooting the loops back to the house, and stroking all the valves making sure they're fail safe/close, and that the operators are reading it correctly on their board. Most of them have been calibrated as well.
It's basically been like a second spec check, except with power this time. As far as tuning and final calibration, a lot of it needs full system power which we don't have right now as Process is just now finishing up as well, and will be commissioned in the process order and since so much is new technology, it's all just saved for commissioning/startup anyway that way we can just get the loops out of the way right now, and fix any item that has electrical/mechanical/dcs/whatever issue and then just spend all that time focusing during commissioning. It's definitely been quite the experience.
Not to mention, many of the instruments can't be fully calibrated until there's some kind of commissioning going on, such as the moisture elements. We can install those until that system is powered up and ready for product.
This is my first DCS job, but it actually hasn't been that bad at all. I've always been in smaller scale stuff using mostly Allen Bradley PLC's, and dabbled with Festo a little bit. But now it's all big scale for me.
Well we're shooting the loops back to the house, and stroking all the valves making sure they're fail safe/close, and that the operators are reading it correctly on their board. Most of them have been calibrated as well.
It's basically been like a second spec check, except with power this time. As far as tuning and final calibration, a lot of it needs full system power which we don't have right now as Process is just now finishing up as well, and will be commissioned in the process order and since so much is new technology, it's all just saved for commissioning/startup anyway that way we can just get the loops out of the way right now, and fix any item that has electrical/mechanical/dcs/whatever issue and then just spend all that time focusing during commissioning. It's definitely been quite the experience.
Not to mention, many of the instruments can't be fully calibrated until there's some kind of commissioning going on, such as the moisture elements. We can install those until that system is powered up and ready for product.
Sounds like a really cool job. I've designed/commissioned a couple of pretty big systems but I haven't been involved in anything on that scale yet. I'm supporting the commissioning of a steam turbine generator right now, but I'm not really a major player (I didn't do any of the design -- I'm just doing the PLC programming).
1/12/1879, 4/8/1156, 2/6/1977, who gives a shit, ...
Despite the fact that we're tied to the housing market, our Holiday Luncheon will happen again this year at the local community hall near my employer. It's free to attend, too; paid for by the monthly stipend given to the employee rep council. The awesome thing is that we work 4 hours but get paid for the full 8, though this year they added the condition that, in order to be paid the full 8 hours, one must attend the luncheon. This has rankled a few long-time employees, but the thing is, they're not obligated in the slightest to pay us the extra 4 hours. They could easily say that we're not able to get that this year, considering our company is in forbearance talks with its creditors to avoid bankruptcy - the deadline was the 14th, but was just extended to December 31st.
usually our firm does unbelievable parties in general, but most especially for the holidays. the NY metro area firm is so huge that each 'group' has it's own party. our group alone is just under 100 people. last year's holiday party was at a spectacular place! this year we were supposed to have our holiday party at tavern on the green, very swank. however, the partners have decided that given the current economic climate and it's effects on all, but especially on many of our clients.....i think in 'good taste'...decided to forego our usual festivities and donate an additional 1.5 million to local charities helping those in need thru this economic crisis. i thought it a good idea.
Ours is stupid. They have a good dinner at a nice place, but employees have to pay. Two years ago, the employee was free and a spouse/guest was like $10... not terrible, but kinda lame.
Last year it was $10 for the employee and $15 for the guest. Screw that... I like some people here, but I see them enough, I wasn't going to pay to see them more. Hardly anyone went, so we have yet to see what the deal is this time. I'm not holding my breath.
The joke around here last year was instead of receiving a christmas bonus, we were getting an invoice.
My wife works for a smaller company (about 12-15 people), and there is low key and nice (and free). I don't mind going to that one at all.
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There's only 6 of us here plus the boss. The boys are all out back and i'm here in the office. The boss plans on taking everyone out for a nice dinner downtown.
the agency I work for rents some fancy lounge and we have it there. I really don't care where it is as long as there is good food and top shelf liquor.
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i work for a non-profit place and this year we are having a small get togther at a local bar. the bar renst out teh place for us for free which is great. we have small finger foods and 2 free drinks. everyone at my work likes each other so i don't mind going.
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usually our firm does unbelievable parties in general, but most especially for the holidays. the NY metro area firm is so huge that each 'group' has it's own party. our group alone is just under 100 people. last year's holiday party was at a spectacular place! this year we were supposed to have our holiday party at tavern on the green, very swank. however, the partners have decided that given the current economic climate and it's effects on all, but especially on many of our clients.....i think in 'good taste'...decided to forego our usual festivities and donate an additional 1.5 million to local charities helping those in need thru this economic crisis. i thought it a good idea.
Wow, that's really cool! I'm an unemployed layabout but my husband's company are having a big party and this year it has a 70s theme. This has not gone down very well with the female employees, who were looking forward to an excuse to wear a glam frock. I've cheated and bought a beautiful 1970s vintage evening dress, which still fits in with the theme, adds a bit more sophistication than a sequined jumpsuit and multi-coloured afro AND is damned cheaper than a modern evening dress. Win!
My husband, however, is going as Noddy Holder from Slade:
usually our firm does unbelievable parties in general, but most especially for the holidays. the NY metro area firm is so huge that each 'group' has it's own party. our group alone is just under 100 people. last year's holiday party was at a spectacular place! this year we were supposed to have our holiday party at tavern on the green, very swank. however, the partners have decided that given the current economic climate and it's effects on all, but especially on many of our clients.....i think in 'good taste'...decided to forego our usual festivities and donate an additional 1.5 million to local charities helping those in need thru this economic crisis. i thought it a good idea.
That is awesome
Our company had dinner at a golf and country club, dinner and open bar... don't need to say how out of control that was
Our company does HUGE charity work this time of year(well all year) and *knock wood* we are lucky and seem to be avoiding the downfalls of the economy right now.
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Ft Worth 9-15-23
Hartford 5-13-06, 6-27-08, 10-25-13
Mansfield, MA 6-30-08, 6-28-08, 7-2-03, 7-3-03, 7-11-03, 8-29-00, 8-30-00, 9-15-98, 9-16-98
Worcester 10-15-13, 10-16-13
There's a lot more to it on this job. We also have civil, structural, process, piping and control systems. I'm in control systems.
This job alone has over 16,000 drawings.
In the control systems alone there's over 16,000 instruments.
Engineers do the ordering. Designers make the designs based on the engineers orders. Electrical works with the power needed by all in the cable tray supported by the pipe rack layout the pipers are using and control systems inserts any controls for flow, density, moisture, pressure, level, etc.
It goes on and on and on. At the site alone we have over 2500 people.
Hahaha. That's the nature of the beast. Are you an electrical contractor?
No, I'm the Electrical Distributor (the middle man) but you'd think I was the fucking engineer!
The best expression of Love is Time.
The best time to Love is Now.
I'm never as good as when you're there.........
You people make me cry on a daily basis!
The best expression of Love is Time.
The best time to Love is Now.
I'm never as good as when you're there.........
Haha-- just think of all the recognition that you get for making us look good.
Fortunately, I have a NIN concert the night of the staff party....
That NIN concert sounds like a way better deal to me
The best expression of Love is Time.
The best time to Love is Now.
I'm never as good as when you're there.........
I think it stands a better chance of being less lame...(but what a great excuse to not go to the staff party, huh?!)...
It's a higher grade polysilicon plant. After the expansion we put in next summer to double the gas intake we'll hit over 20,000 instruments.
As far as the DCS, it's an effing mess. I've been doing loop check the last few months, and well...they have all the loop folders broken down by J-Box, and then by Segment, and many of the instruments have their own loop diagram and we have one instrument to shoot for just one folder. Plus the client wanted it broken down by system, so we'll go to a junction box and then out to the instruments and only shoot maybe 3 loops out of that box rather than just the whole box because they want the plant turned over to them by the system breakdown and don't want us wasting time on other instruments....even though we're there.
So we have more than half with Yokogawa and their DCS interface. Then we have some on Foundation Fieldbus, and then the rest are just local points to a PLC or MCC, or whatever local panel is there. It's been a fun time, and oh boy, commissioning will be dessert!
Oh, and all this doesn't even include the mechanical packages we have that were as-built packages brought into the plant!
This is my first DCS job, but it actually hasn't been that bad at all. I've always been in smaller scale stuff using mostly Allen Bradley PLC's, and dabbled with Festo a little bit. But now it's all big scale for me.
Well we're shooting the loops back to the house, and stroking all the valves making sure they're fail safe/close, and that the operators are reading it correctly on their board. Most of them have been calibrated as well.
It's basically been like a second spec check, except with power this time. As far as tuning and final calibration, a lot of it needs full system power which we don't have right now as Process is just now finishing up as well, and will be commissioned in the process order and since so much is new technology, it's all just saved for commissioning/startup anyway that way we can just get the loops out of the way right now, and fix any item that has electrical/mechanical/dcs/whatever issue and then just spend all that time focusing during commissioning. It's definitely been quite the experience.
Not to mention, many of the instruments can't be fully calibrated until there's some kind of commissioning going on, such as the moisture elements. We can install those until that system is powered up and ready for product.
Sounds like a really cool job. I've designed/commissioned a couple of pretty big systems but I haven't been involved in anything on that scale yet. I'm supporting the commissioning of a steam turbine generator right now, but I'm not really a major player (I didn't do any of the design -- I'm just doing the PLC programming).
That is awesome!
The best expression of Love is Time.
The best time to Love is Now.
I'm never as good as when you're there.........
it's on like donkey kong
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
Last year it was $10 for the employee and $15 for the guest. Screw that... I like some people here, but I see them enough, I wasn't going to pay to see them more. Hardly anyone went, so we have yet to see what the deal is this time. I'm not holding my breath.
The joke around here last year was instead of receiving a christmas bonus, we were getting an invoice.
My wife works for a smaller company (about 12-15 people), and there is low key and nice (and free). I don't mind going to that one at all.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
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Come is a verb"
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
Wow, that's really cool! I'm an unemployed layabout but my husband's company are having a big party and this year it has a 70s theme. This has not gone down very well with the female employees, who were looking forward to an excuse to wear a glam frock. I've cheated and bought a beautiful 1970s vintage evening dress, which still fits in with the theme, adds a bit more sophistication than a sequined jumpsuit and multi-coloured afro AND is damned cheaper than a modern evening dress. Win!
My husband, however, is going as Noddy Holder from Slade:
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This should be interesting...
That is awesome
Our company had dinner at a golf and country club, dinner and open bar... don't need to say how out of control that was
Our company does HUGE charity work this time of year(well all year) and *knock wood* we are lucky and seem to be avoiding the downfalls of the economy right now.
My group is doing a luncheon next week