Racism at its finest.

rival.rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
edited July 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
so everyday i need to take the george washington bridge to and from work. the on ramp in washington heights always has a few homeless people standing in traffic begging for money.

coming home today, there is a black lady driving in front of me, she passed a white homeless man first and gave him nothing, then came up to a black homeless man.... she rolls down her window and gives him money.

what gives??????????????????
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  • DanimalDanimal Posts: 2,000
    so everyday i need to take the george washington bridge to and from work. the on ramp in washington heights always has a few homeless people standing in traffic begging for money.

    coming home today, there is a black lady driving in front of me, she passed a white homeless man first and gave him nothing, then came up to a black homeless man.... she rolls down her window and gives him money.

    what gives??????????????????

    Are sure the white dude wasn't Boom? He has plenty of money.
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  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    Maybe she thought the white guy was George Washington and seeing as how he already had his own bridge...
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  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,619
    Perhaps if the whiteman gave the blackman a fair shake in the past, the divide would not exist today.
  • beachdwellerbeachdweller Posts: 1,532
    so everyday i need to take the george washington bridge to and from work. the on ramp in washington heights always has a few homeless people standing in traffic begging for money.

    coming home today, there is a black lady driving in front of me, she passed a white homeless man first and gave him nothing, then came up to a black homeless man.... she rolls down her window and gives him money.

    what gives??????????????????

    if you think this is racism, then I say it is questionable whether or not your assumption on her racisim is actually racism on your part. Think about it. I think in both cases racism has nothing to do with it.
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  • pouch15pouch15 Posts: 436
    So,for example if the two of them were white, you would get angry cause one was from argentina and the other from Ireland, or vice versa?
  • rival.rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    if you think this is racism, then I say it is questionable whether or not your assumption on her racisim is actually racism on your part. Think about it. I think in both cases racism has nothing to do with it.

    you know, i thought about that, but i don't think it was racism on my part, because she had blatant disregard for one and not the other. why did she make her decision? if she is someone that likes to give to homeless, then why not both??
  • clark_kentclark_kent Posts: 166
    so everyday i need to take the george washington bridge to and from work. the on ramp in washington heights always has a few homeless people standing in traffic begging for money.

    coming home today, there is a black lady driving in front of me, she passed a white homeless man first and gave him nothing, then came up to a black homeless man.... she rolls down her window and gives him money.

    what gives??????????????????

    you're right, that is almost as bad as racist lynchings. what a bitch.
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  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    you know, i thought about that, but i don't think it was racism on my part, because she had blatant disregard for one and not the other. why did she make her decision? if she is someone that likes to give to homeless, then why not both??

    Maybe she gave the white guy $10 the day before. You don't know...
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  • clark_kentclark_kent Posts: 166
    you know, i thought about that, but i don't think it was racism on my part, because she had blatant disregard for one and not the other. why did she make her decision? if she is someone that likes to give to homeless, then why not both??

    maybe the black guy looked less threatening to her? or reminded her of someone she knew?
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  • rival.rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    eyedclaar wrote:
    Maybe she gave the white guy $10 bucks the day before. You don't know...

    point taken. but if she didn't, i just feel if you are going to give to one, give to both.
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    point taken. but if she didn't, i just feel if you are going to give to one, give to both.

    Damn, you quoted me before I could fix my "I work in the Department of Redundancy Department" error.
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  • rival.rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    eyedclaar wrote:
    Damn, you quoted me before I could fix my "I work in the Department of Redundancy Department" error.

    didn't you just say that?
  • there are many qualifiers to racism, but I am not sure this is strictly speaking the right term for what you witnessed. perhaps a question should also be raised as to why you noticed a black woman gave to a black man and not the white one?

    would you be decrying racism if a white woman gave to the white man over the black?

    perhaps she was instinctively trying to offset what she may feel is a lifetime of institutionalized racism...that is, maybe she assumed that the white man would be given money by many other people who have been trained to feel that a black man is the most threatening version of "man"

    or maybe she felt bad about the white guy, but was too late with her change purse for him, and the black dude was just in time.

    it is a little impractical to say she should give to both...technically she doesn't HAVE to give to either...and charity is not something that "should" be "shoulded" over.
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  • gobrowns19gobrowns19 Posts: 1,447
    Maybe after she passed the first person she felt guilty and stopped at the next homeless person, who happened to be black.
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  • rival.rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    perhaps a question should also be raised as to why you noticed a black woman gave to a black man and not the white one?

    would you be decrying racism if a white woman gave to the white man over the black?


    or maybe she felt bad about the white guy, but was too late with her change purse for him, and the black dude was just in time.

    it was an observation made in stand still traffic. hard to not notice when the homeless are within arms reach of your driver side window, and the lady i am talking about is the car directly in front of you.

    and i would def. raise a brow if i saw a white woman to give her money to the white homeless man over the black.

    and yeah, it's possible she was too late with getting money out of her purse. but again, they are there, there is heavy traffic, you see them, they are literally on top of your car. if you are willing to give, you certainitly have enough time to grab a buck out of your wallet. the traffic is not going anywhere.
  • it was an observation made in stand still traffic. hard to not notice when the homeless are within arms reach of your driver side window, and the lady i am talking about is the car directly in front of you.

    and i would def. raise a brow if i saw a white woman to give her money to the white homeless man over the black.

    and yeah, it's possible she was too late with getting money out of her purse. but again, they are there, there is heavy traffic, you see them, they are literally on top of your car. if you are willing to give, you certainitly have enough time to grab a buck out of your wallet. the traffic is not going anywhere.

    I see how easy it would be for her to have given to both - but that doesn't exclude the idea that charity is freely given. It is unfortunate that she decided to give to one and not both, but you still didn't mention WHY the color of their skins struck you...I had not questioned the proximity that would have allowed for your noticing the skin color...I am not trying to be confrontational - I am just curious as to that being the first/main qualifier towards placing "racism" on her charitable action.

    at any rate - I am a non-white female, and I often give charitably on the street level, I wonder if I ever (even subconsciously) allow race/familiarity to play a role in whom I give spare change to...my instinct tells me that I prolly give more money to men, and to men that remind me of someone...

    it is an interesting concept...I will have to try to become more aware of my reasonings...
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  • ozpjmanozpjman Posts: 872
    This is probably not racism, but just a matter of preference. People 'prefer' some charities over others, I give a monthly donation, comes out of the bank each month, and I had to decide which one I prefer to give my money to.

    It wouldnt bother me in the slightest if a black woman gave money to a black man over a white man, or visa versa.

    I think the fact that she gave anything at all is a nice gesture.
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  • rival.rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    I see how easy it would be for her to have given to both - but that doesn't exclude the idea that charity is freely given. It is unfortunate that she decided to give to one and not both, but you still didn't mention WHY the color of their skins struck you...I had not questioned the proximity that would have allowed for your noticing the skin color...I am not trying to be confrontational - I am just curious as to that being the first/main qualifier towards placing "racism" on her charitable action.

    at any rate - I am a non-white female, and I often give charitably on the street level, I wonder if I ever (even subconsciously) allow race/familiarity to play a role in whom I give spare change to...my instinct tells me that I prolly give more money to men, and to men that remind me of someone...

    it is an interesting concept...I will have to try to become more aware of my reasonings...

    and i don't mean to come on here screaming racism. the title of this thread should have had a question mark at the end of it, because i don't even know if i witnessed anything racist. and if it was, i am certainitly not going to come on here complaining about it. i just simply witnessed something that i feel was a little curious, and i just wanted other's opinions on it.

    and the color of the skin struck me because of what i saw of course. i saw the car slowly inch past one, then slowly inching towards the second, the window comes down.

    but hey, in the long run she was being charitable and hopefully whatever she gave him goes to good use.
  • rival.rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775

    well they did have the same amount of teeth!
  • Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    If this is racism...then everyone is a racist.

    as so... it happens because we naturally bond ourselves with people we have things in common with.... hasn't anyone noticed this?

    there's nothing wrong with it until we start the hate.

    It's not racism because you notice things about other cultures.

    Is marketing sun-block to white people racism? What about afrosheen to blacks.
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  • pouch15pouch15 Posts: 436
    If this is racism...then everyone is a racist.

    as so... it happens because we naturally bond ourselves with people we have things in common with.... hasn't anyone noticed this?

    there's nothing wrong with it until we start the hate.

    It's not racism because you notice things about other cultures.

    Is marketing sun-block to white people racism? What about afrosheen to blacks.
    whats an afrosheen?
  • ozpjmanozpjman Posts: 872
    pouch15 wrote:
    whats an afrosheen?

    Think of it as Soul-glo in Coming to America :D
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  • rival.rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775

    Is marketing sun-block to white people racism?

    only white people get skin cancer?
  • and i don't mean to come on here screaming racism. the title of this thread should have had a question mark at the end of it, because i don't even know if i witnessed anything racist. and if it was, i am certainitly not going to come on here complaining about it. i just simply witnessed something that i feel was a little curious, and i just wanted other's opinions on it.

    and the color of the skin struck me because of what i saw of course. i saw the car slowly inch past one, then slowly inching towards the second, the window comes down.

    but hey, in the long run she was being charitable and hopefully whatever she gave him goes to good use.
    no I don't think you screamed racism...

    I appreciate the questions that have arisen as a result of your post/thread.

    I was thinking about it - and I am positive that I give on the average more to a certain type of homeless person. and it is because of personal preference/reasons. my reasons aren't based on race, but they do have racial undertones...very curious indeed.
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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    Every week going to get my coffee in my tea break, the guy that sells the Big Issue and the kid with the bucket for Greenpeace.

    Every week I buy The Big Issue and give the vendor a "tip" I guess we'll call it and every week I say no thank you or not today to the Greenpeace kid.

    One watching this behaviour could assume from that that I don't like Greenpeace or consider conservation a waste of time or that I'm bigoted against Greenies. That I think homelessness is a bigger problem. That I'm biased in favor of the homeless.

    But that would be incorrect.

    I already donate to Greenpeace, monthly, so I see no reason to throw change into the bucket when I have limited resources to donate.

    The woman could have had all kinds of reasons for doing what she did and I think only assuming one explanation for her behaviour is a little short sighted really.
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  • CityMouseCityMouse Posts: 1,010
    maybe she sees that guy every day and gives him money regularly?
  • SwanSwan Posts: 350
    the next black homeless person i see i'll ignore and give to the next white homeless person right after that, that should even things out.
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  • pouch15pouch15 Posts: 436
    ozpjman wrote:
    Think of it as Soul-glo in Coming to America :D
    what? hahah still dont get it
  • beachdwellerbeachdweller Posts: 1,532
    you know, i thought about that, but i don't think it was racism on my part, because she had blatant disregard for one and not the other. why did she make her decision? if she is someone that likes to give to homeless, then why not both??

    how is it blatant? what do you know about her other than she was black? maybe the day before she gave to the white guy?

    All I'm saying is you are making an assumption on the color of skin alone. Is it racism if a white person stops for the white person?

    I don't think you or the women you are speaking of's actions are racism.
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