This brings up a question I've had for a while!
Not directed at anyone in particular, and I don't mean to derail a thread.
Ok, so Madonna is 50 now, and people say she should act differently, or hang it up. She looks old without makeup.
I actually think she looks pretty damn good. I don't agree with everything she says or does, but hell, she says it and she could be retired on her private island and stay silent.
She does love attention, and she knows how to get it, and always has , but you sure can't stumble across 25 years or more of success with attention grabbing antics and no talent to back it up. There has to be SOME talent there!
I hear a lot of people say, oh, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards so old and wrinkled, should hang it up.
So, that being said:
What actually is the official age when it's time for someone to "Hang it up"? Who are the judges who deem it time?
What are some of the criteria for that time?
If you are a celebrity or a rock star, and you DO decide to hang it up when someone says, "You should hang it up!", do you do it before, or after the sold out, or mostly sold out world tour of stadiums that hold from 30,000 to 60,000 people each.
haha, I'll take that answer off the air. I have to go make noise with my guitar!
You think she looks pretty damn good without makeup?
This brings up a question I've had for a while!
Not directed at anyone in particular, and I don't mean to derail a thread.
Ok, so Madonna is 50 now, and people say she should act differently, or hang it up. She looks old without makeup.
I actually think she looks pretty damn good. I don't agree with everything she says or does, but hell, she says it and she could be retired on her private island and stay silent.
She does love attention, and she knows how to get it, and always has , but you sure can't stumble across 25 years or more of success with attention grabbing antics and no talent to back it up. There has to be SOME talent there!
I hear a lot of people say, oh, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards so old and wrinkled, should hang it up.
So, that being said:
What actually is the official age when it's time for someone to "Hang it up"? Who are the judges who deem it time?
What are some of the criteria for that time?
If you are a celebrity or a rock star, and you DO decide to hang it up when someone says, "You should hang it up!", do you do it before, or after the sold out, or mostly sold out world tour of stadiums that hold from 30,000 to 60,000 people each.
haha, I'll take that answer off the air. I have to go make noise with my guitar!
Yup...as always my friend Bobsta says it just right! I wish that I looked as bad as Madonna with with makeup on
I'm not hanging it up until it's over and being that I don't know when that will be....I'm enjoying every single second! My mom sure is too....she is 72 and her live in boyfriend is *gasp* 82!!! They ski, hike, bike miles and miles, go to the gym, vacations at least once a month to very cool locations, have a ton of friends....they aren't planning on hanging it up either! I love being with him and my mom...they love life!
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This brings up a question I've had for a while!
Not directed at anyone in particular, and I don't mean to derail a thread.
Ok, so Madonna is 50 now, and people say she should act differently, or hang it up. She looks old without makeup.
I actually think she looks pretty damn good. I don't agree with everything she says or does, but hell, she says it and she could be retired on her private island and stay silent.
She does love attention, and she knows how to get it, and always has , but you sure can't stumble across 25 years or more of success with attention grabbing antics and no talent to back it up. There has to be SOME talent there!
I hear a lot of people say, oh, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards so old and wrinkled, should hang it up.
So, that being said:
What actually is the official age when it's time for someone to "Hang it up"? Who are the judges who deem it time?
What are some of the criteria for that time?
If you are a celebrity or a rock star, and you DO decide to hang it up when someone says, "You should hang it up!", do you do it before, or after the sold out, or mostly sold out world tour of stadiums that hold from 30,000 to 60,000 people each.
haha, I'll take that answer off the air. I have to go make noise with my guitar!
Here's the thing...
Madonna makes news (atleast these day) not because of her music, because of "what she does". That's just simply the truth. She shocks. That's her specialty. I admit, she does have a talent for grabbing attention. Personally, I'm just sick of hearing about her.
My response is that you can't possibly compare her to the Stones. They had musical talent. Madonna became popular because of her catchy tunes she sang (didn't write) and mostly because of MTV. It was what she did that mostly made her popular,.... same with Britney. The Stones were popular because of their music. It was the radio that made them popular.
One was visual. One audio. The visual one's visual talent is dying. The audio one's audio talent.... well, honestly, I'd argue that this is dying a bit as well. However, the Stones can still rock.
You can't compare her to the Stones. They make music and have made some of the best songs of all time. Whereas, Madonna, well, yea she mades some great videos.... and now she looks like a frog.
I hear a lot of people say, oh, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards so old and wrinkled, should hang it up.
They should hang it up, not because they're old, but rather because they haven't written a decent song in 20 years!! I used to love them...
When PJ starts to "lose it," they should hang it up, too.
If I had known then what I know now...
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Good for her, bought time she uses her fame to spread something decent.
Obviously, she is trying to start a spark...seems to be working.
ps. what Bod said.
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Madonna makes news (atleast these day) not because of her music, because of "what she does". That's just simply the truth. She shocks. That's her specialty. I admit, she does have a talent for grabbing attention. Personally, I'm just sick of hearing about her.
My response is that you can't possibly compare her to the Stones. They had musical talent. Madonna became popular because of her catchy tunes she sang (didn't write) and mostly because of MTV. It was what she did that mostly made her popular,.... same with Britney. The Stones were popular because of their music. It was the radio that made them popular.
One was visual. One audio. The visual one's visual talent is dying. The audio one's audio talent.... well, honestly, I'd argue that this is dying a bit as well. However, the Stones can still rock.
You can't compare her to the Stones. They make music and have made some of the best songs of all time. Whereas, Madonna, well, yea she mades some great videos.... and now she looks like a frog.
Well, you're right I can't compare Madonna to the Stones, I was just using them as an example of aging artists.
I don't think many artists make the news with their music. Most celebrities who make the news because of some sort of controversy and she did create that, for better or worse!
You don't hear the five o'clock news anchor saying, "Bono really nailed Where the Streets Have No Name last night. Here's Ted with a live report!"
Madonna is a whole different type artist than the Stones, but they still sell out stadiums on their tours. Madonna's music doesn't make the news, but a hell of a lot of people are going to see her live on her tour this year!
She didn't write the most amazing music for my tastes either, but her forte is as a performer nonetheless, in whatever form, video, stage, audio and she puts on a helluva live show, as do the Stones and the Who, and Tony Bennett, Neil Young, Tina Turner and a lot of others. All different but they're all talented in their own way. It's part of their art! Madonna's flashier than the Stones but they're both audio and visual in their own ways as is Tony Bennett et al, and somehow Madonna made a lot of people happy and still is.
Ok, well, I don't have any of the latest Madonna CD's either. Not a HUGE fan, but here I am defending her!
There sure are some bad pictures of her on the net, but they're photos and not live. A friend of mine was on her last tour and I saw her without makeup in the flesh and she looked pretty good! She has some character (That's what we call wrinkles later in life! ) but DEFINITELY wasn't an old hag.
She wasn't slutty either. Well, when I met her anyway!
Haha,, there WERE a couple of good songs on the latest Stones album, but I forget what they are! Still rock live, though!
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Madonna makes news (atleast these day) not because of her music, because of "what she does". That's just simply the truth.
I disagree, her albums and singles still do incredibly well over here in the UK. Of course the controversial stuff she does adds to her success, but ultimately her career is still based in music and lavish tours.
I disagree, her albums and singles still do incredibly well over here in the UK. Of course the controversial stuff she does adds to her success, but ultimately her career is still based in music and lavish tours.
She's a terrible musician and average singer. Her risque act is what carries her. She needs to do crap with crosses, compare McCain to Hitler, kiss 20 year old girls to stay in the news... and therefore, relevent. Her pop style is fleeting. And she looks like a foot.
She's a terrible musician and average singer. Her risque act is what carries her. She needs to do crap with crosses, compare McCain to Hitler, kiss 20 year old girls to stay in the news... and therefore, relevent. Her pop style is fleeting. And she looks like a foot.
a hobbit one??
And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
She's a terrible musician and average singer. Her risque act is what carries her. She needs to do crap with crosses, compare McCain to Hitler, kiss 20 year old girls to stay in the news... and therefore, relevent. Her pop style is fleeting. And she looks like a foot.
Her musical skills and singing abilities are not important, her ambition and working with skilled pop writers has meant she has stood the test of time. Think what you want, but at the end of the day, she's racked up heaps of hit singles including her recent stuff. Her risque act would also be nothing without the music.
I think the comparison of McCain to Hitler is probably a piss-take of McCain comparing Obama to Paris Hilton and Britney - like I said before, both are ridiculous assertions.
...so she kisses Britney.... she bangs a leading baseball player (who is married) ....she starts spewing exagerated political beliefs .
...She's such an enormously huge sLUUUt.
...And she sleeps with married men, strips on stage and makes out with chicks
what's with the derogatory implications here....this kind of behaviour should be encouraged.
what's with the derogatory implications here....this kind of behaviour should be encouraged.
I am all for lesbian acts... this is true. But, I'm sorry, she lost me right then and there. She was clearly trying to get press. I like to see passion in lesbian kisses.
No being old is not bad at all. Being an attention whore is. Did you gmom go around kissing girls half her age for attention because she was on the verge of becoming obsolete? Probably not.
She has had a long and properous career, so being an attention whore has helped her.
i like madonna im going to see her in november and im still looking forward to seeing her, it seems like she puts on a good show, even if it is controversial or not.
She has no problem with people saying she is/was an attention whore..she even sings about it on the album before the latest.
I am really disturbed by the OPs language tho...sorry.
Slut? Hag?
And can the same terms be used for Axl Rose and the other whores that were in G n R??
I had the misfortune of being given a copy of Slash's book and I could not get thru it...nasty guys.
But I wouldn't go so far as to call them sluts.
Relax and go with the flow...she doesn't give a hoot what you think.
I love Madonna.
Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
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Yup...as always my friend Bobsta says it just right! I wish that I looked as bad as Madonna with with makeup on
I'm not hanging it up until it's over and being that I don't know when that will be....I'm enjoying every single second! My mom sure is too....she is 72 and her live in boyfriend is *gasp* 82!!! They ski, hike, bike miles and miles, go to the gym, vacations at least once a month to very cool locations, have a ton of friends....they aren't planning on hanging it up either! I love being with him and my mom...they love life!
oxc
oxc
*May the Peace of the Wilderness be with YOU*
He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.
— Unknown
Here's the thing...
Madonna makes news (atleast these day) not because of her music, because of "what she does". That's just simply the truth. She shocks. That's her specialty. I admit, she does have a talent for grabbing attention. Personally, I'm just sick of hearing about her.
My response is that you can't possibly compare her to the Stones. They had musical talent. Madonna became popular because of her catchy tunes she sang (didn't write) and mostly because of MTV. It was what she did that mostly made her popular,.... same with Britney. The Stones were popular because of their music. It was the radio that made them popular.
One was visual. One audio. The visual one's visual talent is dying. The audio one's audio talent.... well, honestly, I'd argue that this is dying a bit as well. However, the Stones can still rock.
You can't compare her to the Stones. They make music and have made some of the best songs of all time. Whereas, Madonna, well, yea she mades some great videos.... and now she looks like a frog.
As John McEnroe once said, "YOU....CANNOT....BE....SERIOUS!!!!" :mad:
They should hang it up, not because they're old, but rather because they haven't written a decent song in 20 years!! I used to love them...
When PJ starts to "lose it," they should hang it up, too.
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Obviously, she is trying to start a spark...seems to be working.
ps. what Bod said.
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I don't think many artists make the news with their music. Most celebrities who make the news because of some sort of controversy and she did create that, for better or worse!
You don't hear the five o'clock news anchor saying, "Bono really nailed Where the Streets Have No Name last night. Here's Ted with a live report!"
Madonna is a whole different type artist than the Stones, but they still sell out stadiums on their tours. Madonna's music doesn't make the news, but a hell of a lot of people are going to see her live on her tour this year!
She didn't write the most amazing music for my tastes either, but her forte is as a performer nonetheless, in whatever form, video, stage, audio and she puts on a helluva live show, as do the Stones and the Who, and Tony Bennett, Neil Young, Tina Turner and a lot of others. All different but they're all talented in their own way. It's part of their art! Madonna's flashier than the Stones but they're both audio and visual in their own ways as is Tony Bennett et al, and somehow Madonna made a lot of people happy and still is.
Ok, well, I don't have any of the latest Madonna CD's either. Not a HUGE fan, but here I am defending her!
There sure are some bad pictures of her on the net, but they're photos and not live. A friend of mine was on her last tour and I saw her without makeup in the flesh and she looked pretty good! She has some character (That's what we call wrinkles later in life! ) but DEFINITELY wasn't an old hag.
She wasn't slutty either. Well, when I met her anyway!
Haha,, there WERE a couple of good songs on the latest Stones album, but I forget what they are! Still rock live, though!
Don't be mankind. ~Captain Beefheart
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I disagree, her albums and singles still do incredibly well over here in the UK. Of course the controversial stuff she does adds to her success, but ultimately her career is still based in music and lavish tours.
LOL
Well, there is no such thing as natural beauty!!
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
She's a terrible musician and average singer. Her risque act is what carries her. She needs to do crap with crosses, compare McCain to Hitler, kiss 20 year old girls to stay in the news... and therefore, relevent. Her pop style is fleeting. And she looks like a foot.
a hobbit one??
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
Her musical skills and singing abilities are not important, her ambition and working with skilled pop writers has meant she has stood the test of time. Think what you want, but at the end of the day, she's racked up heaps of hit singles including her recent stuff. Her risque act would also be nothing without the music.
I think the comparison of McCain to Hitler is probably a piss-take of McCain comparing Obama to Paris Hilton and Britney - like I said before, both are ridiculous assertions.
Good call; yes, a hobbit foot.
I am all for lesbian acts... this is true. But, I'm sorry, she lost me right then and there. She was clearly trying to get press. I like to see passion in lesbian kisses.
She has had a long and properous career, so being an attention whore has helped her.
Some regular whores have long and prosperous careers too.
Luckily the world is big enough for her to live her life, and for you to disapprove of her, without any real conflict.
I am really disturbed by the OPs language tho...sorry.
Slut? Hag?
And can the same terms be used for Axl Rose and the other whores that were in G n R??
I had the misfortune of being given a copy of Slash's book and I could not get thru it...nasty guys.
But I wouldn't go so far as to call them sluts.
Relax and go with the flow...she doesn't give a hoot what you think.
I love Madonna.
And I don't feel right when you're gone away