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saveuplifesaveuplife Posts: 1,173
edited August 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
Would it be a good idea to lower the drinking age to 18? Discuss.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/08/18/college.drinking.age.ap/index.html

I vote yes.
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  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,689
    I don't think it particularly matters.
  • seanw1010seanw1010 Posts: 1,205
    definately not
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  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    I dont think thats a good idea to lower the drinking age

    They should raise the driving age though !!

    Little fuckers shouldn't be on the road at 16 !
    My drinking team has a hockey problem

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  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    The idea that you can have a wife and kids and be sat behind the wheel of 1000 kg of prime station wagon metal'n'wood before you can down a nice cold one is one of the more glaring absurdities that America has fallen foul of.
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    I vote yes. The legal drinking age is sixteen here. And we don't card.

    The driving age is eighteen, though.
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  • saveuplifesaveuplife Posts: 1,173
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    The idea that you can have a wife and kids and be sat behind the wheel of 1000 kg of prime station wagon metal'n'wood before you can down a nice cold one is one of the more glaring absurdities that America has fallen foul of.


    To be fair, I think one of the reasons people are skeptical about allowing 18 year olds to drink is..... drinking and driving.

    Americans drive a hell of a lot more than Europeans (both because of our countries lack of public transport and because of its vast space). So, that makes the environments somewhat different.
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    Never gonna happen.... the only reason that the age is at 21 right now is because the government would withhold federal highway money from a state unless the drinking age in that state is at least 21. And I don't see that stance changing any time soon.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    I'm indifferent about it. I don't care if they leave it as is or lower it to 18.
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  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,689
    saveuplife wrote:
    To be fair, I think one of the reasons people are skeptical about allowing 18 year olds to drink is..... drinking and driving.

    Americans drive a hell of a lot more than Europeans (both because of our countries lack of public transport and because of its vast space). So, that makes the environments somewhat different.
    Agreed.
  • rival.rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    Phantom Pain wrote:
    They should raise the driving age though !!

    Little fuckers shouldn't be on the road at 16 !

    and the old fuckers shouldn't be on the road either. they are more dangerous than the young kids.
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    saveuplife wrote:
    To be fair, I think one of the reasons people are skeptical about allowing 18 year olds to drink is..... drinking and driving.

    Americans drive a hell of a lot more than Europeans (both because of our countries lack of public transport and because of its vast space). So, that makes the environments somewhat different.

    How many college students drive to parties?
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  • Gremmie95Gremmie95 Posts: 749
    I know this is a generic opinion, but I do beleive it:

    If you are old enough to die for your country and choose the President, you should be able to drink a beer.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    18

    if you can die in a foreign land you should be able to drink
  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    singularity wrote:
    and the old fuckers shouldn't be on the road either. they are more dangerous than the young kids.

    That is true

    I think at age 65 or say after you turn 60 every 5 years get tested again

    I mean you get your license and never get tested again ??

    Their reaction time and reflexes are obviously not the same
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  • __ Posts: 6,651
    If you can go to war, you should be able to have a drink.
  • saveuplifesaveuplife Posts: 1,173
    Collin wrote:
    How many college students drive to parties?


    I don't know. I didn't use to. I'm for allowing 18 year olds to drink. They can die in a war.

    However, I do admit that they are not necessarily as responsible as 21 year olds. It's just common sense to say that.
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    singularity wrote:
    and the old fuckers shouldn't be on the road either. they are more dangerous than the young kids.
    Amen!!!!
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    saveuplife wrote:
    However, I do admit that they are not necessarily as responsible as 21 year olds. It's just common sense to say that.

    I don't know if that's true.
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  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    I started drinking when I was teething. It hasn't done me any harm.
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    I vote no. If I had to go through all the trouble of sneaking into bars and getting fake id's so should future college kids. ;)
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  • rival.rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    keep it at 21.

    i don't want to go to bars and hang out with 18 year olds.
  • Gremmie95Gremmie95 Posts: 749
    could always go back to the 3.2 law they had in the 70's........
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    yes, absolutely and step up DUI policing.

    18 should absolutely be the drinking age. 21 is absurd.

    It's only there because 18 year olds know more underage people. Bottom line, take the mystique away from it and people learn earlier that vomiting for 6 hours isn't fun.

    Abuse is not a reason to set the drinking age at 21. Neither is it being more accessable to underaged people.

    18 year olds are already in bars... and those bars are fairly easy to spot and avoid. Most of them are really loud and they play bad music.

    If DUI becomes more of an issue then the penalties for even the first DUI should just become more severe and begin with Jail time.

    Prohibition does not work in practice. MADD cannot show figures on that and they can't prove thier hypothesis other than to show that young people take more risks.

    Pot is legal or at least not criminalized in Amsterdam, yet they have less drug abuse issues... interesting.

    I'd wager part of the reason for abuse of alcohol in young people is because the law tells them they can't have it.
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  • reeferchiefreeferchief Posts: 3,569
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    The idea that you can have a wife and kids and be sat behind the wheel of 1000 kg of prime station wagon metal'n'wood before you can down a nice cold one is one of the more glaring absurdities that America has fallen foul of.

    Well to be honest you can drive at 17 and drink at 18 here in the UK, so that rings true here as well.
    Also the lehgal drinking age will be going up to 21 here soon I'll promise you, they have already implemented it in shops in Scotland as far as buying it goes, then it'll be pubs and then England.
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  • intodeepintodeep Posts: 7,240
    As mentioned earlier if you are old enough to go to war and old enough to choose a president you should be old enough to drink a beer.

    And who the hell are these people kidding that think it stops 18 year olds from drinking. It may stop the goodie two shoes from drinking but most kids once you hit college start drinking at parites. So what is the difference.

    I drank when i was 18 and i turned out okay.
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  • JordyWordyJordyWordy Posts: 2,261
    18 years is the age here, but there are problems. not because of the age, but because of a binge-drinking culture.

    so yeah, why the fuck not?
    at the same time though i feel it would be taking away from the fun times i had drinking legally for three years while americans were toiling and cheating for their booze.....im a prick really
  • PJaddictedPJaddicted Posts: 1,432
    As the parent of four sons(21, 19, 17 & 14)....it should be put back down to 18. Most of my sons friends drink. Many drink and drive. For some reason the police don't ever even ask if they have been drinking after accidents....I know of three kids just from the last few months...19 and 20 year olds that had crashes and had been drinking. I don't think making the kids wait until 21 stops drinking and driving, if anything the kids drink heavier before they go out to someplace they won't be able to drink.

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  • stu geestu gee Posts: 1,174
    reeferchief wrote:
    Well to be honest you can drive at 17 and drink at 18 here in the UK, so that rings true here as well.
    Also the lehgal drinking age will be going up to 21 here soon I'll promise you, they have already implemented it in shops in Scotland as far as buying it goes, then it'll be pubs and then England.

    You can still buy alcohol in the vast majority of Scottish shops at 18. I think it was tested in some areas but its not a national thing yet.

    Changing the age isnt going to have an affect, not for a long time anyway. Im 23 and the truth is that me and my friends, and honestly at least half the people i grew up with, started drinking maybe shortly after we started secondary school, so you're talking around 13. It takes a long, long time to change a way of life!
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  • phatuciniphatucini Posts: 399
    Age has rarely made anyone drink more responsible. Experience, Knowledge & Experience do! At least in my environment. Most people need to make some "bad" experience to take some consequence!
  • reeferchiefreeferchief Posts: 3,569
    stu gee wrote:
    You can still buy alcohol in the vast majority of Scottish shops at 18. I think it was tested in some areas but its not a national thing yet.

    Changing the age isnt going to have an affect, not for a long time anyway. Im 23 and the truth is that me and my friends, and honestly at least half the people i grew up with, started drinking maybe shortly after we started secondary school, so you're talking around 13. It takes a long, long time to change a way of life!

    Oh for certain, same with me and everything else I started experimenting with then also.;)
    But it's most definately coming just the same as the legal smoking age went up to 18.
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