Cormac McCarthy

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  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,696
    He seemed too crafty and smart to keep making mistakes like this.

    I didn't the impression that Moss was crafty or smart. I actually thought he was in over his head from the get go. I'm referring to the movie because I haven't read the book yet.
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    yeah, I'm referring to the adapted screenplay based on the book here.

    Why would you read an adapted screenplay when you can read the book instead? :confused:
  • rrivers wrote:
    I didn't the impression that Moss was crafty or smart. I actually thought he was in over his head from the get go. I'm referring to the movie because I haven't read the book yet.


    There were things that he did that showed smarts such as putting the case in the venting system, pushing it so far over and then getting out the other side. And when he thought something was up and told the cab driver not to drop him off. Plus the way he got away from Chuger...he was pretty sly. And also, Woody Harleson's commented on how most people would be dead if they'd come face to face with Chuger. Imo, he was portrayed to be smart enough to not make the simple mistakes he did.

    And Byrnzie, I have only watched the movie. I only brought up the screenplay because I think there must have been some pretty big differences that would make the story flow a bit better in the book.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    you know what annoys me about cormac mccarthy?



    this:

    digame, he said, cual as lo peor: que soy pobre o que soy americano?

    the vaquero shook his head. una llave de oro abre cualquier puerta, he said.

    he looked at the boy. he tipped the ash from the end of the cigarette and said he wished to know his thought. wished perhaps his advice. but that no one could advise him.

    tienes razon, said john grady. he looked at the vaquero. he said that when she returned he intended to speak to her with the greatest seriousness. he said that he intended to know her heart.

    the vaquero looked at him. he looked towards the house. he seemed puzzled and he said that she was here. that she was here now.

    como?

    si. ella esta aqui.desde ayer.


    when he lapses into mexican and i have no idea what the hell is being said. as good as i am i can not comprehend a language i do not speak or am unable to read. :)
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • Cropduster84Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    mulva9 wrote:
    I've never liked a writer as much as I like him.

    I've read All the Pretty Horses, No Country for Old Men, and The Road and I think those are my 3 favorite books ever. Can't wait to read more.


    My personal favourites too, although check out his older material, in particular Child Of God which is a superbly well written dark piece of Southern Gothic....

    Also if you like Cormac McCarthy, I recommend William Gay.
    'The more I studied religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself.' - Sir Richard Francis Burton
  • nfanelnfanel Posts: 2,558
    i just finished the road. took about two days... i couldn't put it down. when i was at work i couldn't stop thinking about it or wait to get back to it. i thought it was really moving and the father/son relationship was so touching. i loved how the 'dialogue' was so simple, just like a little boy would talk.

    i was literally sobbing at the end of it...a book hasn't made me do that in a while. as cliche as it is...makes you appreciate life and all the simple things.
  • azwyldcatsazwyldcats Posts: 710
    Have been singing his praises on here for years. Look up his interview in Rolling Stone several months back. Very interesting dude.
    And I'm not living this life without you, I'm selfish and clear
    And you're not leaving here without me, I don't wanna be without
    My best... friend. Wake up, to see you could have it all
  • smithnicsmithnic Posts: 1,563
    azwyldcats wrote:
    Have been singing his praises on here for years. Look up his interview in Rolling Stone several months back. Very interesting dude.
    That was really cool. About him essentially living at this convent for scientists right?
    Go Get 'Em Tigers!
  • azwyldcatsazwyldcats Posts: 710
    Right. And how he see's the world and humanity in general as broken. He has 4-5 books going at one time, alternating between them. How he drives his son to school each morning before cruising over the the Santa Fe Institute. He's the truth.
    And I'm not living this life without you, I'm selfish and clear
    And you're not leaving here without me, I don't wanna be without
    My best... friend. Wake up, to see you could have it all
  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,696
    azwyldcats wrote:
    Right. And how he see's the world and humanity in general as broken. He has 4-5 books going at one time, alternating between them. How he drives his son to school each morning before cruising over the the Santa Fe Institute. He's the truth.

    Are you talking about the interview in the year end issue? I bought that issue just to read the article about him. I thought it was interesting that he said he has 4-5 books going at once because he knows his time is limited because he is in his 70s.
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,696
    There were things that he did that showed smarts such as putting the case in the venting system, pushing it so far over and then getting out the other side. And when he thought something was up and told the cab driver not to drop him off. Plus the way he got away from Chuger...he was pretty sly. And also, Woody Harleson's commented on how most people would be dead if they'd come face to face with Chuger. Imo, he was portrayed to be smart enough to not make the simple mistakes he did.

    And Byrnzie, I have only watched the movie. I only brought up the screenplay because I think there must have been some pretty big differences that would make the story flow a bit better in the book.

    The things you pointed out: putting the case in the venting machine and telling the cab driver not to stop don't make him smart in my eyes. Neither of those actions shows real genius and I think a lot of people in similiar situations would have done the same thing.

    Moss did end up dead so Woody Harrelson was right. He made the mistakes because he wasn't overly smart and was in WAY over his head. I would argue taking the money in the first place shows he wasn't that bright. Not stupid by any means, but he hadn't thought everything out. Not by a long shot.
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • rrivers wrote:
    The things you pointed out: putting the case in the venting machine and telling the cab driver not to stop don't make him smart in my eyes. Neither of those actions shows real genius and I think a lot of people in similiar situations would have done the same thing.

    Moss did end up dead so Woody Harrelson was right. He made the mistakes because he wasn't overly smart and was in WAY over his head. I would argue taking the money in the first place shows he wasn't that bright. Not stupid by any means, but he hadn't thought everything out. Not by a long shot.


    I guess. I just thought of him as smart but in over his head. I guess the mistakes make more sense your way. But the way he seemed to think about things and plan seemed like he wasn't just your run of the mill idiot and that's what bugged me about the irrational moves he made at points. He just didn't come across to me as dumb enough to be making those kind of mistakes.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,696
    I guess. I just thought of him as smart but in over his head. I guess the mistakes make more sense your way. But the way he seemed to think about things and plan seemed like he wasn't just your run of the mill idiot and that's what bugged me about the irrational moves he made at points. He just didn't come across to me as dumb enough to be making those kind of mistakes.

    I don't think he was an idiot. I do think the mistakes are believable due to a.) him being in over his head and b.) the pressure that increased as the movie went on, especially once he knew the kind of person who was after him.
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
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