Anyone know people who are Satanists?

musicismylife78
musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
edited October 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
Maybe its a stereotype, but I always think of Krist Noveselic's quote about Aberdeen, that it was the sort of place where only two things were possible "either you did drugs or worshipped the devil". And you often hear about kids who are interested in satanism and the devil in small towns. Obviously there are devil worshippers in big cities.

Anyone here ever had friends who worshipped the devil? Practiced satanism? People like Anton Lavey and Marilyn Manson as well as more mainstream people like Sammy Davis Jr or Jayne mansfield would argue there is a difference between devil worship and satanism. Is there?

Anyone have hometown stories of youth who engage in this behavior?

I find myself fascinated by it personally. The whole Wm3 thing and all that. they obviously are innocent, but its interesting how indeed they were into exploring the occult or aleister crowley or whatever.

How does heavy metal play into all of that? The whole imagery of the music conjurs up death, gore, devils, witches and such. You have people like Manson or ROb Zombie who may or may not worship the devil, and you have people like the scandanavian death metal scene where its more cut and dried as to if these people really believe what they are saying and singing.

Do you think there really are scores of teens who worship the devil?
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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    I think the LaVeyan Church of Satan, that being a secular form not based on Christian traditions of Satan, has some interesting philosophical ideas. Satanism as an antithesis to christianity is laughable bullshit.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • statistics
    statistics Posts: 26
    i knew a guy whose dad used to have satanic literature on his shelf. i didn't visit the house again.
  • JordyWordy
    JordyWordy Posts: 2,261
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Satanism as an antithesis to christianity is laughable bullshit.

    Haha! Spot on!

    When i see that stuff it reminds me of Anarchist groups in Universities - some of the dumbest shit ive ever seen (and self-contradictory).

    The idea of studying the devil, from a mythology & folk perspective i can get. Legends and that shite, thats interesting.
  • comebackwoman
    comebackwoman Posts: 7,271
    I met a girl who is a satanist. She said it's about worshipping yourself, not the devil :confused: She's a bit odd...didn't ask for many details
    There's a light when my baby's in my arms :)
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    comebackgirl wrote:
    I met a girl who is a satanist. She said it's about worshipping yourself, not the devil :confused: She's a bit odd...didn't ask for many details
    Odd in a "she's a bit off" kinda way, or odd in the "she's the embodiment of evil, and has a red-tail and pitchfork" kinda way? ;)
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    comebackgirl wrote:
    I met a girl who is a satanist. She said it's about worshipping yourself, not the devil :confused: She's a bit odd...didn't ask for many details
    Yeah, Church of Satanism practices a different kind of satanism to what ordinarily springs to mind. It has bugger all to do with the biblical devil. Satan is a metaphorical philosophy of living.

    Their version of the 10 commandments is in parts admirable, in parts ridiculous:

    The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth

    1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked

    2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them

    3. When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there

    4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy

    5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal

    6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved

    7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained

    8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself

    9. Do not harm little children

    10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food

    11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    Yeah, Church of Satanism practices a different kind of satanism to what ordinarily springs to mind. It has bugger all to do with the biblical devil. Satan is a metaphorical philosophy of living.

    Their version of the 10 commandments is in parts admirable, in parts ridiculous:

    The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth

    1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked

    2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them

    3. When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there

    4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy

    5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal

    6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved

    7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained

    8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself

    9. Do not harm little children

    10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food

    11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him
    Sounds decent to me. If I could be arsed subscribing to a particular philosophy, this one seems pretty reasonable. I am often tempted to destroy people...
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Sounds decent to me. If I could be arsed subscribing to a particular philosophy, this one seems pretty reasonable. I am often tempted to destroy people...
    :D Some of the rules are really quite admirable, especially for "satanists". No killing children, no disrespecting people in their own homes, be nice to animals etc.

    The wording is tremendous. "When in another's lair...treat him cruelly and without mercy" :D
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    If I have, I didn't know it. I'd be interested to meet them though, just to see the "flip side". Some of the biggest assholes I've ever had to deal with were christians. I figure, if satanists are supposed to be the opposite, how fucking bad could they be?
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    :D Some of the rules are really quite admirable, especially for "satanists". No killing children, no disrespecting people in their own homes, be nice to animals etc.

    The wording is tremendous. "When in another's lair...treat him cruelly and without mercy" :D
    Satanists: the salt of the earth. :D

    The strange thing is, it's really the same moral code as most religions live by, just with a little nastiness made explicit instead of hidden.
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • harmless_little_f***
    harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    I'm a Christian and growing up, it was quite hilarious the amount of people who were fearful of devil worship in the vicinity... Satanism couldn't have possibly meant anything else. Until you realise that Satanists don't actually believe the Devil even exists. Most of them I've known couldn't have done anything more 'magic' than make a good sandwich.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Satanists: the salt of the earth. :D

    The strange thing is, it's really the same moral code as most religions live by, just with a little nastiness made explicit instead of hidden.
    True :)
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • comebackwoman
    comebackwoman Posts: 7,271
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Odd in a "she's a bit off" kinda way, or odd in the "she's the embodiment of evil, and has a red-tail and pitchfork" kinda way? ;)
    I did see a tail peeking out of the bottom of her skirt :eek: :eek: :eek:
    There's a light when my baby's in my arms :)
  • comebackwoman
    comebackwoman Posts: 7,271
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    :D Some of the rules are really quite admirable, especially for "satanists". No killing children, no disrespecting people in their own homes, be nice to animals etc.

    The wording is tremendous. "When in another's lair...treat him cruelly and without mercy" :D
    the words "lair" and "mating signal" are hysterical. I must determine what my mating signal is :p
    There's a light when my baby's in my arms :)
  • Yellow Ledbelly
    Yellow Ledbelly Posts: 3,749
    comebackgirl wrote:
    . I must determine what my mating signal is :p
    I was unaware there was such a thing as THE mating signal. All these years I've been trying to figure women out and all the time the Satanists are sitting on the secret? WTF? Time to spill it you bunch of demon-loving, spell-casters!
    All I have to do is revel in the everyday....then do it again tomorrow

    They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
  • the wolf
    the wolf Posts: 7,027
    i know a guy who has been a practicing satanist for 25 years.

    one of the nicest guys i have ever met.
    Peace, Love.

    "To question your government is not unpatriotic --
    to not question your government is unpatriotic."
    -- Sen. Chuck Hagel
  • Yellow Ledbelly
    Yellow Ledbelly Posts: 3,749
    Actually, there was a dude from South Dakota who moved down to the Dirty South in high school who I became friends with. He loved Danzig and had an interest in the occult and that kind of thing, but he was a normal dude (kinda). I always thought he seemed like a good candidate, but when an owl flew into his windshield one night when he was trippin' he flipped out, said the owl's soul entered his body and then went on to become a preacher.
    All I have to do is revel in the everyday....then do it again tomorrow

    They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
  • comebackwoman
    comebackwoman Posts: 7,271
    Yellow Ledbelly wrote:
    I was unaware there was such a thing as THE mating signal. All these years I've been trying to figure women out and all the time the Satanists are sitting on the secret? WTF? Time to spill it you bunch of demon-loving, spell-casters!
    lol - I'll let you in on the secret...we rub our legs together and chirp cricket style ;) :eek:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQFEY9RIRJA
    There's a light when my baby's in my arms :)
  • PearlJamaholic
    PearlJamaholic Posts: 2,019
    well if believing in god is normal there has to be people that want to see his end... satanism and magic are like christians and prayer... its a thing of faith but from a point of view of science its all kinda silly.
    http://db.etree.org/PearlJamaholic
  • mookeywrench
    mookeywrench Posts: 6,081
    i don't know any satanists... but as far as the "religion" goes it's about being selfish (in neither a positive or negative context). It's about absolute free-will and not living on a moral code based on religion or society.

    It's living based on their being neither a heaven or hell so any morality based on those concepts gets thrown out the window.

    Whatever is important to you is what you should seek, you develop your own codes and ethics based on what works best for you.

    If anyone has ever read The Brothers Karamzov....Fyodor Karamazov is a cahracter that could be classified as a modern day satanist.

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