Boys run over by train in 1980's

musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
edited May 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
One of the most disturbing cases I have ever read/heard about. In the mid 1980’s, two teen boys were found run over by a train in Arkansas. Then the case diverges into two camps. The first camp, the one that the police and authority seems to agree with, is that the two boys were smoking pot, and got so high that they fell into a stupor, carrying guns, or a gun to the train tracks, they laid themselves down on the tracks, and didn’t budge or move or flinch as they were in a daze, and a train ran over them killing them both instantly. Basically a case of suicide by drugs. The police and not just rank and file police but the sheriff and the higher ups in Arkansas politics and government, the medical examiners, the person who performed the autopsy, all suggested that this was what happened.

The other scenario, is far more disturbing. The train crew reported seeing a green tarp pulled over the boys bodies, and the first responders to the scene after the train ran over the boys, suggested that the blood looked almost purple and that there wasn’t much of it, suggesting the boys died elsewhere, and were dead when the train ran over them. Sightings of a man in military fatigues in the area before the train ran over the boys was reported. When the first responders said they saw a tarp on the boys, the police called them liars. When it was suggested that the boys died before being run over, the medical examiner said no, and suggested the boys died from the drugs causing them to black out and not see or respond to a train. Anyone who suggested that the boys met with foul play was made fun of, assailed, and in several cases murdered.

The main theory that makes the most sense is that the boys stumbled upon a drug drop. Those tracks were right by a known drug drop, and Arkansas was in the middle of a major cocaine/drug trafficking period. So the boys witnessed what was going on, or tried to steal some cocaine they found/stumbled upon, or were recruited by some person to transport/take some drugs, and were murdered. Several witnesses described seeing police beating two boys on the night of the crime. Residents described the area of the train tracks as a place where low flying helicopters without lights would fly in at odd times of the night.

Most disturbing is that those involved in this coverup, extend into the highest reaches of the Arkansas police department, and then Arkansas governor Bill Clinton. The mother of one of the dead kids, tried to take it to court, and to get their deaths ruled as murder, but even HER OWN lawyer/attorney was suspected of interacting with drug users/being a drug user himself/and possibly being in on the deal/drug drop that killed the kids.

I think whats so disturbing about all this is, how it was all covered up. How chief of police, and politicians could have basically covered up the murder of two kids.

I never was a fan of those who said Clinton was some kind of monster, and was involved in Whitewater and with vince foster etc… I still don’t think he was involved. And I do think there was a right wing conspiracy out to get him. But I do think he shares blame in all this. He had the power to speak up and speak out and didn’t.

Two teens witnessed a drug drug and were murdered by police/politicians who were profiting from the deal. I love horror films, but even the scariest couldn’t top this one for its creepy factor.
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  • Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    interesting read... hadnt heard about this before... but certainly wouldnt surprise me... clinton was notorious for sweeping things under the rug... as bad as bush is, he definitely inherited some shit from the prior administration

    i hope for the mothers and train drivers sakes this is eventually resolved... if its still going on someones gotta be brave enough to blow the lid off it... where is "deepthroat" when you need him?!?
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  • elmerelmer Posts: 1,683
    Apparently, with high-speed trains, if you take a hit, your balls can be found up to 30 metres away from the torso, according to police.

    As to the your story, sure cover-ups like this happen all the time. Shame.
  • musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    i think your right. But this case is very similar to the West memphis three case, both took place in Arkansas as well. For both cases to be solved, to be righted, and for the real killers of the two boys on the tracks, and the 3 boys who died in West Memphis, for all that to happen, for the West Memphis three to be released etc... the police, the entire state and local government and even people like Huckabee and Clinton would have to admit that they ruined not only the lives of then three teens, who are now well into mid life, but the lives of many others, and tarnished the memory of the three youngsters killed. Same thing would have to happen in the above case.

    The police, the sheriff, the attorney for the mother of one of the boys (who was actively campaigning and suggesting the police had something to hide), Clinton, the medical examiner etc... all would have to come out and say "we mislead the public for over 20 years, we lied, and covered up.

    Whats so amazing and disturbing about all this, is how its almost so accepted. Whether we discuss the Wm3 or the two boys who died on the tracks, they both were victims of police curruption and murder.
  • musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    elmer wrote:
    Apparently, with high-speed trains, if you take a hit, your balls can be found up to 30 metres away from the torso, according to police.

    As to the your story, sure cover-ups like this happen all the time. Shame.

    but we as a society seem to highly value police. Seems a paradox. How can a profession, the only profession where one can kill, and one can be excused from any punishment (rodney king, amadou diallo, tim thomas, sean bell etc...). It doesnt matter what a police officer does, it is always excused. You had rodney king savagely beaten and the police said he was high and drunk and beliggerant. Or the 300+ pound black man from cincy whose death was filmed, as police restrained him, he kept trying to get back up, and they were choking him, and he had a heart attack. he was unarmed. Or amadou diallo whose wallet was evidently some kind of weapon to police with mase, tasers, guns, billyclubs etc...

    Its amazing to me, people would accept that type of behavior. They bow down to police like they are gods and the greatest people ever. I find no honor or courage in what the police in either the WM3 case or the boys on the tracks case did. I dont respect them. I have no respect for the thin blue line. How many innocent people are killed by police daily in the u.s.? We often hear how dangerous it is for someone to be a police officer, how about how dangerous it is to be an american citizen in a police state? How about to be a young, urban looking, project dwelling african american male? How dangerous then?

    The police are sick people. Anyone who allows 3 innocent people to have their lives ruined and smeared. You think Damien Echols will ever escape being associated with devil worshipping?
  • elmerelmer Posts: 1,683
    Over here in the UK they're not quite so aggresive, bent? Perhaps.
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