I'm sorry if you felt that I was putting you down. That was not my intention.
I admire your free spirit, and wish you success with whatever path you take. However, your quest for living a "simpler" life, may make your life more difficult in the long run.
this could not be more true.
Plus, I couldn't help but find the "free spirit" post a bit condescending. the VAST majority of people HAVE to work. Sure, we'd all love to go out sniffing flowers every day, but it's about survival. Some of us here are slaving away at multiple part time jobs or we've worked to get lucrative full time jobs or whatever. the point it we need to put rooves over our heads. I'm not thrilled with my current job, which is total feast or famine, but you know you have to do what you have to do.
plus I was thinking about this post more after I logged off yesterday. radiohead says she (??) wants to "experience" things rather than be stuck working or studying...which is perfectly understandable. However, working and studying ARE experiences. Dropping everything and finally going to grad school halfway across the country and meeting literally hundreds of new people, learning from brilliant professors...that was one of the best "experiences" of my life. Radiohead, my question is, what were you experiencing each day while you weren't working after college? What do you WANT to experience when you quit the grocery store?
Plus, I couldn't help but find the "free spirit" post a bit condescending. the VAST majority of people HAVE to work. Sure, we'd all love to go out sniffing flowers every day, but it's about survival. Some of us here are slaving away at multiple part time jobs or we've worked to get lucrative full time jobs or whatever. the point it we need to put rooves over our heads. I'm not thrilled with my current job, which is total feast or famine, but you know you have to do what you have to do.
plus I was thinking about this post more after I logged off yesterday. radiohead says she (??) wants to "experience" things rather than be stuck working or studying...which is perfectly understandable. However, working and studying ARE experiences. Dropping everything and finally going to grad school halfway across the country and meeting literally hundreds of new people, learning from brilliant professors...that was one of the best "experiences" of my life. Radiohead, my question is, what were you experiencing each day while you weren't working after college? What do you WANT to experience when you quit the grocery store?
Agreed. I don't like being a "cube rat", spending 10-12 hours a day in front a computer. But I do it because it provides me with the means to enjoy my free time and create "experiences" I otherwise wouldn't be able to afford or do.
I understand and respect "different strokes for different folks". Life is what you make it.
"If you love someone, set them free... if someone loves you, don't fuck up" - EV
I am assuming you all arent familiar with me, and as this is a forum and we have all never met, I assume you dont know my past. I never got a job in high school or college. I was busy studying. Some people can pull off a job and school and a family. I could never do it.
Sure, not having much or any job experience at my age is tough, but what are you (or I) gonna do? It makes no sense to make it sound like I have failed my life or something.
I spent months and months applying at literally any job. With no experience on my resume, I didnt have luck. The grocery store was literally the first place to interview me, and the only one to contact me back. I took the job.
I guess I dont inhabit the same place as most of you. At 24 I am a college graduate, but also a seeker. Someone who knows I think and will be different than most people. In work and in life. My destiny is different. I have never and will never take the path most people take. thats the way it is.
My line of thinking is aligned with the Born to Run era Uncle Bruce, Jack Kerouac, hermann Hesse, and Chris Mccandless. They explain the youthful ehuberance and the unwillingness to settle down, to commit. I am 24. It is an excuse to be youthful. I personally dont care to be put down for feeling this is the "springtime of my loving" as Robert Plant once said.
Jobs want you to commit. Even at my age. Any job I ever take will be asking me "how long do you intend to keep this job for". The joke is, if people were honest, and said the truth, no one ever would get hired. We all lie. Life happens. things happen. Our feelings and passions change.
I make no apologies for not getting a job earlier, and I make no apologies for my feelings now.
Ultimately I feel I answered my own question. the fact that I am feeling this way, may be a sign unto itself
I actually find this post to be rather stuck up. You came here asking when it was time to leave a job. Everyone gave you reasonable advice. Sure, we don't know you.. but you asked us. We didn't seek you out to tell you that you should have worked during school.
At 24, you're not inhabiting the same place as the rest of us? Because you are 24 and a graduate and a SEEKER??? Oh wow, reminds me of a hell of a lot of 24 year olds that I know. Why don't you get your master's degree in something that will land you the job of your choice. Some of the best seekers, I know seek out to educate themselves so they can do what they want in life. Don't sit here and tell us you are so much different then the rest of us. If you were truly a free spirit and really seeking to better yourself, you'd be out there changing what you don't like about your life, instead of complaining on a message board and then dogging the people that try to help.
At some point we all have to be accountable for our lives, and our well being. Sorry that you feel entitled to not have to do anything that isn't what you like at 24, but welcome to the real world. Life isn't a piece of cake. Pay your dues and you too will go places. The people that have higher up jobs, they got those because they walked in your shoes at 15, or 16 years old. Sorry that you're now doing that 8 years later, but just because you aren't 16, doesn't mean you should be given a free pass to have it all. We all start somewhere.
Agreed. I don't like being a "cube rat", spending 10-12 hours a day in front a computer. But I do it because it provides me with the means to enjoy my free time and create "experiences" I otherwise wouldn't be able to afford or do.
yeah if you don't work how do you support your hobbies, travels...
radiohead- graysaturday is right, you're really not any different than the rest of us.
yeah if you don't work how do you support your hobbies, travels...
radiohead- graysaturday is right, you're really not any different than the rest of us.
exactly.
not at all.
i'd love to see radiohead/malcom/che in 10 years, truly. see where he goes with this all. and i don't mean it in a mean-spirited way, not at all. it's interesting.
If you've been somehow getting others to support you and pay your way through life so far, then why stop now?
right?
apparently money is not a concern at ALL. most of us know we have to at least pay to keep a roof over our heads. nice to live without that worry.
funny too.....i read mention of bruce springsteen, jack kerouac......perhaps did not follow the typical mode, but hell.....springsteen is a multi-millionaire no doubt, kerouac wrote amazing books......both produced and worked! they didn't do nothing, that's for damn sure. hell, even ed worked at a gas station. we ALL start off somewhere to get where we want to go b/c most of us don't have a free ride to living. if ya do...make the most of it then!
I was a Soc major and am now a Sr Data Analyst (10 years later). Go figure.
I have a friend who was a comparitive religion major with honors.
worked in banking for 6 years
went to harvard business school
now pulls in oodles and oodles of dough
AND
he likes what he does
Employers are more concerned that you studied hard at a good college. any subject you take at arts and sciences college doesn't equal a career path because they are academic subjects- biology, economics, chemistry, english, political science, physics...you don't graduate and get a JOB "in" biology or "in" economics - other than a research assistant. If you want to pursue any of this stuff you go to graduate school because they're sciences and you need to be an academic. that's the point. any other job APPLIES the general knowledge you acquire in your education.
There was an article on MSN about going to Europe for a year, a summer, whatever, and working there!
For instance, a buddy and I have lined up a job/place to stay in Spain next summer after we graduate high school. Am I scared shitless? Absolutley, but that may appeal to the SEEKER in you.
Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
There was an article on MSN about going to Europe for a year, a summer, whatever, and working there!
For instance, a buddy and I have lined up a job/place to stay in Spain next summer after we graduate high school. Am I scared shitless? Absolutley, but that may appeal to the SEEKER in you.
Exactly... there are many things that you can do and still enjoy that aspect of life.
But as I mentioned before for the original poster, at 24 if he's never had any responsibility at all to pay for anything in life or to support yourself, there probably isn't any motivation or need to actually do something like that when you can live life carefree.
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Exactly... there are many things that you can do and still enjoy that aspect of life.
But as I mentioned before for the original poster, at 24 if he's never had any responsibility at all to pay for anything in life or to support yourself, there probably isn't any motivation or need to actually do something like that when you can live life carefree.
I'm 17, so I have to admit, I've had it relativley easy. Having said that, I've been to Europe with the school, (paid for 1/2 of it) and the only way I could get back, is to work! So, I'm going to, as well as hopefully have the time of my life. Radiohead, try doing the same. Take yourself completly out of your comfort zone, asap.
Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
how do you know when to leave something? A job? A situation? A state?
You feel like you can't breathe whenever you're there, and all you get is aggravation and stress most of the time.
Oh wait...most jobs feel like that...
If there was ever a low stress job...I think the grocery store gig is it, aside from like feeding animals at the zoo or something like that.
I walk into emergency situations all the time. Actually that's pretty much the only time people call me to come in and fix things.
I've come to appreciate it's all about the people you work with. I'd take an ok paying job with excellent people over a higher paying job that chews away at your health.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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this could not be more true.
Plus, I couldn't help but find the "free spirit" post a bit condescending. the VAST majority of people HAVE to work. Sure, we'd all love to go out sniffing flowers every day, but it's about survival. Some of us here are slaving away at multiple part time jobs or we've worked to get lucrative full time jobs or whatever. the point it we need to put rooves over our heads. I'm not thrilled with my current job, which is total feast or famine, but you know you have to do what you have to do.
plus I was thinking about this post more after I logged off yesterday. radiohead says she (??) wants to "experience" things rather than be stuck working or studying...which is perfectly understandable. However, working and studying ARE experiences. Dropping everything and finally going to grad school halfway across the country and meeting literally hundreds of new people, learning from brilliant professors...that was one of the best "experiences" of my life. Radiohead, my question is, what were you experiencing each day while you weren't working after college? What do you WANT to experience when you quit the grocery store?
Agreed. I don't like being a "cube rat", spending 10-12 hours a day in front a computer. But I do it because it provides me with the means to enjoy my free time and create "experiences" I otherwise wouldn't be able to afford or do.
I understand and respect "different strokes for different folks". Life is what you make it.
I actually find this post to be rather stuck up. You came here asking when it was time to leave a job. Everyone gave you reasonable advice. Sure, we don't know you.. but you asked us. We didn't seek you out to tell you that you should have worked during school.
At 24, you're not inhabiting the same place as the rest of us? Because you are 24 and a graduate and a SEEKER??? Oh wow, reminds me of a hell of a lot of 24 year olds that I know. Why don't you get your master's degree in something that will land you the job of your choice. Some of the best seekers, I know seek out to educate themselves so they can do what they want in life. Don't sit here and tell us you are so much different then the rest of us. If you were truly a free spirit and really seeking to better yourself, you'd be out there changing what you don't like about your life, instead of complaining on a message board and then dogging the people that try to help.
At some point we all have to be accountable for our lives, and our well being. Sorry that you feel entitled to not have to do anything that isn't what you like at 24, but welcome to the real world. Life isn't a piece of cake. Pay your dues and you too will go places. The people that have higher up jobs, they got those because they walked in your shoes at 15, or 16 years old. Sorry that you're now doing that 8 years later, but just because you aren't 16, doesn't mean you should be given a free pass to have it all. We all start somewhere.
yeah if you don't work how do you support your hobbies, travels...
radiohead- graysaturday is right, you're really not any different than the rest of us.
exactly.
not at all.
i'd love to see radiohead/malcom/che in 10 years, truly. see where he goes with this all. and i don't mean it in a mean-spirited way, not at all. it's interesting.
and this....
right?
apparently money is not a concern at ALL. most of us know we have to at least pay to keep a roof over our heads. nice to live without that worry.
funny too.....i read mention of bruce springsteen, jack kerouac......perhaps did not follow the typical mode, but hell.....springsteen is a multi-millionaire no doubt, kerouac wrote amazing books......both produced and worked! they didn't do nothing, that's for damn sure. hell, even ed worked at a gas station. we ALL start off somewhere to get where we want to go b/c most of us don't have a free ride to living. if ya do...make the most of it then!
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
I was a Soc major and am now a Sr Data Analyst (10 years later). Go figure.
Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
I have a friend who was a comparitive religion major with honors.
worked in banking for 6 years
went to harvard business school
now pulls in oodles and oodles of dough
AND
he likes what he does
Employers are more concerned that you studied hard at a good college. any subject you take at arts and sciences college doesn't equal a career path because they are academic subjects- biology, economics, chemistry, english, political science, physics...you don't graduate and get a JOB "in" biology or "in" economics - other than a research assistant. If you want to pursue any of this stuff you go to graduate school because they're sciences and you need to be an academic. that's the point. any other job APPLIES the general knowledge you acquire in your education.
For instance, a buddy and I have lined up a job/place to stay in Spain next summer after we graduate high school. Am I scared shitless? Absolutley, but that may appeal to the SEEKER in you.
Exactly... there are many things that you can do and still enjoy that aspect of life.
But as I mentioned before for the original poster, at 24 if he's never had any responsibility at all to pay for anything in life or to support yourself, there probably isn't any motivation or need to actually do something like that when you can live life carefree.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
You feel like you can't breathe whenever you're there, and all you get is aggravation and stress most of the time.
Oh wait...most jobs feel like that...
If there was ever a low stress job...I think the grocery store gig is it, aside from like feeding animals at the zoo or something like that.
I walk into emergency situations all the time. Actually that's pretty much the only time people call me to come in and fix things.
I've come to appreciate it's all about the people you work with. I'd take an ok paying job with excellent people over a higher paying job that chews away at your health.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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