Different strokes I guess, I preffer animals to children and I think alot of things that babys do is totaly disgusting.
at least babies can spell.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
That maybe but I least I don't go around shitting myself
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they can ask me if they want... if i say 'no, i'd rather you didnt' then they'll probably just light up anyway... smokers are the least respectful of all.
why are we discussing restaurants?
Because it was in sight of a restaurant.
I just find it odd you complain about smokers not being polite and then cite that as a reason not to be polite yourself.
I once saw a mother changing her baby on the train, what the fuck is that all about. It seems that when some people have kids they loose all common decency.
WOW!!!
I rarely change my son anywhere in public. But not on a train!?!?! That is one extreme attitude toward the issue.
You ever see what happens to MANY babies if left with an unchanged diaper? Candida? Yeast infections that result in a doctor visit with an extremely raw, red ass with little postules all over it.
WOW!!!!! You'd rather have that happen to an infant (it happens to MANY... mine was one of them.. but I've worked with children for years and know it's common.)
WOW!!!! Not on a train?? On a train you're trapped. There IS nowhere else to go...
UGH. :(
***How about changing a diaper during an interview at K-Rock in NYC?***
What are the pro's and con's of cloth diapers VS disposables? Maybe we should all go back to old days when you used big leaves and some moss on your baby's ass? Whatcha think?
So...
If someone is changing their baby on the bench, and in the course of cleaning the kid puts the dirty diaper on the bench and poop gets on it. Now said parent does not look if everything is cleaned up- you come along and get it on you. Would you be happy?
I would not. Especially if your far from home and can't change and you smell like poop until you can change.
Just like when people don't curb their dogs. I curse like crazy when I step in it and smell like shit all day- because you can't get it all off without a good washing.
I understand that the baby is uncomfortable. You want to make baby happy. But if you are in a mall- there are bathrooms around. Some malls have several.
What are the pro's and con's of cloth diapers VS disposables? Maybe we should all go back to old days when you used big leaves and some moss on your baby's ass? Whatcha think?
Is this another thread high-jacking? If so, I am IN!
I just got a brochure from an organic cotton diaper company, and am thinking of ordering them for the store. Supposedly, they work AWESOME. What cha' think? Would I be sitting on them (as in, not selling) forever, or do you think some of the enlightened Moms would try them? They have these little biodegradable inserts that are super-absorbent.
I would have at least tried them with CTB.
I still want you all to "take care"--I am just damn tired of typing it.
I just find it odd you complain about smokers not being polite and then cite that as a reason not to be polite yourself.
i find it odd that we have to be polite about something as innocent and necessary as changing a baby's diaper... why ask people if you can change your baby's diaper?
i'm not seeking permission to do it... if it needed done i'd just do it... just like all those people over the years who thought it was 'polite' to smoke next to me, to knock on my door and try and get me to go to church, the idiots who drive past my old house and had their beep beep music coming out of their cars at 10 02843 decibels...
why should i be polite about changing a diaper... old fuckers fart on the bus...
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
really folks ... no need to ask others for permission what I do with my child...especially when green cottage cheese like baby shit is running down my arm and all over my white shirt, and everyone is looking around to see if the sewer has backed up and afraid to light a match... Pulleeessseee....
Ah no, indecency is when you let a small, helpless child sit in its own faeces and urine for hours so as not to upset the sensibilities of people that clearly have never had a shit or pissed themselves in their life. It's the only explanation I can come up with for the judgement.
I draw the line at whether the shit is visible or detectable by odor. If so, this is unacceptable.
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i find it odd that we have to be polite about something as innocent and necessary as changing a baby's diaper... why ask people if you can change your baby's diaper?
i'm not seeking permission to do it... if it needed done i'd just do it... just like all those people over the years who thought it was 'polite' to smoke next to me, to knock on my door and try and get me to go to church, the idiots who drive past my old house and had their beep beep music coming out of their cars at 10 02843 decibels...
why should i be polite about changing a diaper... old fuckers fart on the bus...
I'm not telling you you need to ask permission. I'm a fairly simple man, if it doesn't bother me, I have no problem with it. But if you're doing it in front of me while I just bought an overpriced meal, I'd like to enjoy my meal without having to smell your kid's shit.
I think that's not too much to ask. If you don't care about being polite, fine. But don't be upset when someone calls you a dick or asks if you can get your stinking baby away from their food.
Just like you think you have every right to change your baby wherever you want, they have the right to tell you you're an asshole for doing it near their food, or next to them on the train.
I'm not telling you you need to ask permission. I'm a fairly simple man, if it doesn't bother me, I have no problem with it. But if you're doing it in front of me while I just bought an overpriced meal, I'd like to enjoy my meal without having to smell your kid's shit.
I think that's not too much to ask. If you don't care about being polite, fine. But don't be upset when someone calls you a dick or asks if you can get your stinking baby away from their food.
Just like you think you have every right to change your baby wherever you want, they have the right to tell you you're an asshole for doing it near their food, or next to them on the train.
Who cares about politeness anyway, eh?
agreed. Just because you have kids does not make everything about them ok with the world. Its just common sense that changing a baby on the bench in front of a restaurant is not a good thing. As I said, its a mall, there are several bathrooms. Yes the baby changing area may not be what you want- but at least they provide it.
I'd like to enjoy my meal without having to smell your kid's shit.
I think that's not too much to ask. If you don't care about being polite, fine. But don't be upset when someone calls you a dick or asks if you can get your stinking baby away from their food.
generally, you can smell it through the diaper.. the person wouldn't have to be changing it.
i agree though.... shouldnt change the diaper at a food place unless it is way away from the food or in the bathroom.
in general, i have no problem seeing people changing diapers... i have even done it once when i couldnt find a bathroom.
I'm not telling you you need to ask permission. I'm a fairly simple man, if it doesn't bother me, I have no problem with it. But if you're doing it in front of me while I just bought an overpriced meal, I'd like to enjoy my meal without having to smell your kid's shit.
I think that's not too much to ask. If you don't care about being polite, fine. But don't be upset when someone calls you a dick or asks if you can get your stinking baby away from their food.
Just like you think you have every right to change your baby wherever you want, they have the right to tell you you're an asshole for doing it near their food, or next to them on the train.
Who cares about politeness anyway, eh?
can we get over the fucking restaurant thing?
close to food? eating a meal whilst smelling shit?
seriously parents.... i realize that we all poop, but is changing a baby on a bench by an entrance to a mall which is also in sight of a restaurant the best place to do a changing?
in sight of!!
big difference
if someone changed their baby on the restaurant table next to me i'd say something.. if a lady changed her baby (and we dont know if it had shit in there i may add) on a bench that was in SIGHT of a restaurant then i'd sit and eat my food and do fuck all about it.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
If you knew a grown adult that was somehow disabled and had to wear a diaper, would you change their diaper out in public?
they would call that indecent exposure and give you a ticket
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As a mother who spent hundreds of hours breastfeeding and who changed thousands of diapers, here are my thoughts:
diaper changing: should be done in a restroom whenever possible; if the public restroom does not have a changing table, that's a major problem (I changed a very squirmy toddler once on the floor of a restroom -- never again!).
If you are at a park, on a hike, etc., it is perfectly okay in my opinion to change baby on a blanket, in the back of your car, wherever people are not eating. All of you gentlemen who relieve yourselves outdoors while hiking, golfing, or enjoying lots of beer at PJ concerts should not have a problem with this. ;-)
Diapers should never be changed on restaurant tables or any other non-changing-table; yes, I have seen this happen, and I think it is disgusting.
Cleaning up the area after changing the baby should go without saying; leaving diapers under benches, etc. is just gross.
breastfeeding:
Babies need to eat, frequently. Mine ate every two hours until they were nearly a year old. They also tend to get hungry on their own schedules. Going anywhere or running nearly any kind of errand will mean that the baby will need to be fed while you are out. I do not eat in restrooms, why should babies?
A number of women are able to breastfeed so discreetly that you might not be aware of what is happening. Most women carry a blanket with them for discretion. Yes, you know what is happening under that blanket; you also know that we all are naked underneath our clothes, yet somehow most of you manage to deal with that fact and get through the day. [I eagerly anticipate the clever responses to that sentence!]
Feeding also is the quickest, easiest way to calm most fussy infants. Would you prefer to listen to a baby screech or to see a woman seated in a corner with a blanket over her shoulder?
That's probably enough for now. :-)
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i'd rather not witness it, period. however, i also completely understand that yes indeed, shit happens...and parents need to deal with it. IF there is a restroom/changing station nearby, it would be polite to go and utlize. if not, however, i fully appreciate the necessity of taking care of your child's needs, and yes...i far rather that then the SCREAMING or STINK that a baby wanting to be changed, NOW, will occur if it doesn't get what it wants.
wow.. i expected a response but 6 pages.. yeesh. (though 2 pages of derailment)
a lot of people are attacking the mall worker too... well first off, most of the people are assuming the worker was a HE when in actuality it was a SHE. she was not a mall cop, that some of the people posting in this thread in favor of the mother think is a joke job. the job is just to enforce an 18+ age rule after a certain time unless accompanied by an adult. would you rather this person not work and be on public assistance? maybe she is working here while going to school but just needs the money. i hate people that judge people for the job they are doing... AT LEAST THEY ARE WORKING. maybe her life was not as privileged as yours. take that silver spoon and shove it somewhere.
there is a time and place for everything is what i am trying to say. she could have walked the 200ft to the bathrooms to change the baby. she could have continued to her car and changed the infant in her car. she was not trapped on a train or a plane or in an area where there was no public restroom available.
she was in a mall, in view of a restaurant, 200 feet from restrooms, 100 feet from the parking lot. she had options but she chose the most obscene and unsanitary.
Until the law says that you can change dirty diapers where ever you want, the property owners have the right to tell you to move it to the bathroom.
They are not denying you to change the diaper, but do it in an appropriate place. This woman was near the bathroom. there is no excuse.
Until the law says that you can change dirty diapers where ever you want, the property owners have the right to tell you to move it to the bathroom.
They are not denying you to change the diaper, but do it in an appropriate place. This woman was near the bathroom. there is no excuse.
very true... people seem to have a misconception about what is public property and not. stores and malls are not public property and there are rules that can be made within reason.
Um..I only read the first post in this thread, but I thought I would add that there is a YouTube clip of Stone Gossard giving an interview on a New York radio station while changing the diaper of his kid.
Um..I only read the first post in this thread, but I thought I would add that there is a YouTube clip of Stone Gossard giving an interview on a New York radio station while changing the diaper of his kid.
there is a time and place for everything is what i am trying to say. she could have walked the 200ft to the bathrooms to change the baby. she could have continued to her car and changed the infant in her car. she was not trapped on a train or a plane or in an area where there was no public restroom available.
Was it getting dark at all? There's no way I would feel safe to change a baby in a car in the mall parking lot at night.
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at least babies can spell.
That maybe but I least I don't go around shitting myself
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Because it was in sight of a restaurant.
I just find it odd you complain about smokers not being polite and then cite that as a reason not to be polite yourself.
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WOW!!!
I rarely change my son anywhere in public. But not on a train!?!?! That is one extreme attitude toward the issue.
You ever see what happens to MANY babies if left with an unchanged diaper? Candida? Yeast infections that result in a doctor visit with an extremely raw, red ass with little postules all over it.
WOW!!!!! You'd rather have that happen to an infant (it happens to MANY... mine was one of them.. but I've worked with children for years and know it's common.)
WOW!!!! Not on a train?? On a train you're trapped. There IS nowhere else to go...
UGH. :(
***How about changing a diaper during an interview at K-Rock in NYC?***
Ah, three more pages. Life is good this morning.
http://www.youtube.com/user/kcherub#p/a/u/0/N-UQprRqSwo
What are the pro's and con's of cloth diapers VS disposables? Maybe we should all go back to old days when you used big leaves and some moss on your baby's ass? Whatcha think?
If someone is changing their baby on the bench, and in the course of cleaning the kid puts the dirty diaper on the bench and poop gets on it. Now said parent does not look if everything is cleaned up- you come along and get it on you. Would you be happy?
I would not. Especially if your far from home and can't change and you smell like poop until you can change.
Just like when people don't curb their dogs. I curse like crazy when I step in it and smell like shit all day- because you can't get it all off without a good washing.
I understand that the baby is uncomfortable. You want to make baby happy. But if you are in a mall- there are bathrooms around. Some malls have several.
Is this another thread high-jacking? If so, I am IN!
I just got a brochure from an organic cotton diaper company, and am thinking of ordering them for the store. Supposedly, they work AWESOME. What cha' think? Would I be sitting on them (as in, not selling) forever, or do you think some of the enlightened Moms would try them? They have these little biodegradable inserts that are super-absorbent.
I would have at least tried them with CTB.
http://www.youtube.com/user/kcherub#p/a/u/0/N-UQprRqSwo
I was thinking exactly the same thing too!
i find it odd that we have to be polite about something as innocent and necessary as changing a baby's diaper... why ask people if you can change your baby's diaper?
i'm not seeking permission to do it... if it needed done i'd just do it... just like all those people over the years who thought it was 'polite' to smoke next to me, to knock on my door and try and get me to go to church, the idiots who drive past my old house and had their beep beep music coming out of their cars at 10 02843 decibels...
why should i be polite about changing a diaper... old fuckers fart on the bus...
:appreciative nod:
Oh....G-diapers are the way to go.
I'm not telling you you need to ask permission. I'm a fairly simple man, if it doesn't bother me, I have no problem with it. But if you're doing it in front of me while I just bought an overpriced meal, I'd like to enjoy my meal without having to smell your kid's shit.
I think that's not too much to ask. If you don't care about being polite, fine. But don't be upset when someone calls you a dick or asks if you can get your stinking baby away from their food.
Just like you think you have every right to change your baby wherever you want, they have the right to tell you you're an asshole for doing it near their food, or next to them on the train.
Who cares about politeness anyway, eh?
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i agree though.... shouldnt change the diaper at a food place unless it is way away from the food or in the bathroom.
in general, i have no problem seeing people changing diapers... i have even done it once when i couldnt find a bathroom.
can we get over the fucking restaurant thing?
close to food? eating a meal whilst smelling shit?
in sight of!!
big difference
if someone changed their baby on the restaurant table next to me i'd say something.. if a lady changed her baby (and we dont know if it had shit in there i may add) on a bench that was in SIGHT of a restaurant then i'd sit and eat my food and do fuck all about it.
If you knew a grown adult that was somehow disabled and had to wear a diaper, would you change their diaper out in public?
diaper changing: should be done in a restroom whenever possible; if the public restroom does not have a changing table, that's a major problem (I changed a very squirmy toddler once on the floor of a restroom -- never again!).
If you are at a park, on a hike, etc., it is perfectly okay in my opinion to change baby on a blanket, in the back of your car, wherever people are not eating. All of you gentlemen who relieve yourselves outdoors while hiking, golfing, or enjoying lots of beer at PJ concerts should not have a problem with this. ;-)
Diapers should never be changed on restaurant tables or any other non-changing-table; yes, I have seen this happen, and I think it is disgusting.
Cleaning up the area after changing the baby should go without saying; leaving diapers under benches, etc. is just gross.
breastfeeding:
Babies need to eat, frequently. Mine ate every two hours until they were nearly a year old. They also tend to get hungry on their own schedules. Going anywhere or running nearly any kind of errand will mean that the baby will need to be fed while you are out. I do not eat in restrooms, why should babies?
A number of women are able to breastfeed so discreetly that you might not be aware of what is happening. Most women carry a blanket with them for discretion. Yes, you know what is happening under that blanket; you also know that we all are naked underneath our clothes, yet somehow most of you manage to deal with that fact and get through the day. [I eagerly anticipate the clever responses to that sentence!]
Feeding also is the quickest, easiest way to calm most fussy infants. Would you prefer to listen to a baby screech or to see a woman seated in a corner with a blanket over her shoulder?
That's probably enough for now. :-)
Let's just breathe...
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a lot of people are attacking the mall worker too... well first off, most of the people are assuming the worker was a HE when in actuality it was a SHE. she was not a mall cop, that some of the people posting in this thread in favor of the mother think is a joke job. the job is just to enforce an 18+ age rule after a certain time unless accompanied by an adult. would you rather this person not work and be on public assistance? maybe she is working here while going to school but just needs the money. i hate people that judge people for the job they are doing... AT LEAST THEY ARE WORKING. maybe her life was not as privileged as yours. take that silver spoon and shove it somewhere.
there is a time and place for everything is what i am trying to say. she could have walked the 200ft to the bathrooms to change the baby. she could have continued to her car and changed the infant in her car. she was not trapped on a train or a plane or in an area where there was no public restroom available.
she was in a mall, in view of a restaurant, 200 feet from restrooms, 100 feet from the parking lot. she had options but she chose the most obscene and unsanitary.
They are not denying you to change the diaper, but do it in an appropriate place. This woman was near the bathroom. there is no excuse.
very true... people seem to have a misconception about what is public property and not. stores and malls are not public property and there are rules that can be made within reason.
Edit: Found it
> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jS7AGSleyLc
i decided to google my topic and oddly enough found this=p
http://www.noodad.com/wp/instructions/diaper_changing_in_public_know_the_etiquette
Was it getting dark at all? There's no way I would feel safe to change a baby in a car in the mall parking lot at night.