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chiquimonkeychiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
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anybody been? toying with the idea of stopping thru on a road trip
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    never been but i'd love to do a drive across the south going to all the civil war "landmarks".....i love history...:)
  • chiquimonkeychiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
    cutback wrote:
    never been but i'd love to do a drive across the south going to all the civil war "landmarks".....i love history...:)
    me too! i haven't experienced any civil war landmarks, and we're driving from NJ to DC, and maybe stopping in philly, so if we can sneak over to gettysburg, that'd be a nice history-filled trip :) just wondering if it's something that can be seen in a few hours, or if it's worth staying the night
  • PorchsitterPorchsitter Posts: 1,069
    If history (and the Civil War) is your thing, then I would say it's worth it. I would recommend picking up the tour CD they offer at the souvenir shop inside the museum. Otherwise, you will be driving around looking at wide open fields without an idea of what the significance of the field may be. Also, look for Eisenhower's house with the 50 pine trees lining the driveway.
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  • chiquimonkeychiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
    If history (and the Civil War) is your thing, then I would say it's worth it. I would recommend picking up the tour CD they offer at the souvenir shop inside the museum. Otherwise, you will be driving around looking at wide open fields without an idea of what the significance of the field may be. Also, look for Eisenhower's house with the 50 pine trees lining the driveway.
    thanks for the info! yeah i saw they have the audio tour, i'll pick that up for sure. are there more things to see around the area, besides the fields and ike's house?
  • PorchsitterPorchsitter Posts: 1,069
    thanks for the info! yeah i saw they have the audio tour, i'll pick that up for sure. are there more things to see around the area, besides the fields and ike's house?

    Yeah.....the Soldiers Cemetery outside the museum is massive and worth a walkthrough. Plus, the spot where Lincoln gave the Gettysburg Address is right outside of the cemetery. Beyond that there really isn't much that I saw, but then again I only had a few hours there with only enough time to do the drive. So there may be plenty of other stuff I missed. Give yourself plenty of time to drive around the battlefield. It's massive beyond belief. Also, if you would like a good book about Gettysburg, I recommend Thomas Desjardin's "These Honored Dead." It does a good job with the story while correcting some of the things we've come believe through legend.
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  • chiquimonkeychiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
    Yeah.....the Soldiers Cemetery outside the museum is massive and worth a walkthrough. Plus, the spot where Lincoln gave the Gettysburg Address is right outside of the cemetery. Beyond that there really isn't much that I saw, but then again I only had a few hours there with only enough time to do the drive. So there may be plenty of other stuff I missed. Give yourself plenty of time to drive around the battlefield. It's massive beyond belief. Also, if you would like a good book about Gettysburg, I recommend Thomas Desjardin's "These Honored Dead." It does a good job with the story while correcting some of the things we've come believe through legend.
    thanks a lot, that's a big help. how long were you there? how long did it take to drive around the fields?
  • PorchsitterPorchsitter Posts: 1,069
    thanks a lot, that's a big help. how long were you there? how long did it take to drive around the fields?


    We arrived at the park around 9 in the morning. They say get an early start b/c it gets busier as the day goes on. We decided to wait to tour the museum until after the drive. The drive itself took a while. We started at 9:30 and didn't finish until 2 or 3PM. Since I am a history buff, I stopped probably more frequently and for a much longer time than some. Gettysburg is littered with statues and things to read about. While I didn't take a lot of time with many of the statues, there are some not to be missed. One in particular is the statue is the lighthouse-like memorial of the Irish Brigade that fought in the battle. The "Devil's Den" is an incredible stop just for the view as well as the site of Pickett's Charge. I stood on both sides of that battlefield trying to imagine what it must've been like to cross that field under heavy Union fire. Anyway, give yourself 3 hours and some change at the least. It's an 18-mile trek, but you can only drive so fast and you make many stops.

    The museum doesn't take as long, but there is still a few things to look at....most importantly the amount of weapons they have.
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  • chiquimonkeychiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
    We arrived at the park around 9 in the morning. They say get an early start b/c it gets busier as the day goes on. We decided to wait to tour the museum until after the drive. The drive itself took a while. We started at 9:30 and didn't finish until 2 or 3PM. Since I am a history buff, I stopped probably more frequently and for a much longer time than some. Gettysburg is littered with statues and things to read about. While I didn't take a lot of time with many of the statues, there are some not to be missed. One in particular is the statue is the lighthouse-like memorial of the Irish Brigade that fought in the battle. The "Devil's Den" is an incredible stop just for the view as well as the site of Pickett's Charge. I stood on both sides of that battlefield trying to imagine what it must've been like to cross that field under heavy Union fire. Anyway, give yourself 3 hours and some change at the least. It's an 18-mile trek, but you can only drive so fast and you make many stops.

    The museum doesn't take as long, but there is still a few things to look at....most importantly the amount of weapons they have.
    that is some excellent information to have, i've made note of it all including the book, i'll look to see if it's in the library. thanks again! :)
  • PorchsitterPorchsitter Posts: 1,069
    that is some excellent information to have, i've made note of it all including the book, i'll look to see if it's in the library. thanks again! :)

    No problem. Glad I could help.
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  • in_hiding79in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    Isn't Gettysburg supposed to be haunted?? That is one spooky looking place at night I bet....I would love to visit!! :)
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  • chiquimonkeychiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
    Isn't Gettysburg supposed to be haunted?? That is one spooky looking place at night I bet....I would love to visit!! :)
    it seems ripe for some ghost activity, which does intrigue me too :) not sure how brave i am to be there at nite though haha
  • QuarterToTenQuarterToTen Posts: 3,636
    gettysburg moved me. i would highly recommend visiting.
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  • spatspat Posts: 644
    gettysburg is one place everyone should visit at least once in their lifetime. trust me though, you will need more than just a stop through on a road trip! i was out there last october (beautiful time of year to go), we stayed for about 4 days and still wish we had more time.
    depending on your time schedule, you should take a bus tour of the battlefield with a guide that narrates along the way. the guy we had was very informative. or just drive through in your car, either with a cd you can rent, or a pamphlet type thing they hand out. words can't describe the scope of the battlefield, and just trying to imagine, something like 50,000 dead over three days. that said, its a very peaceful place to be at the same time.
    check out sach's bridge too, its a gorgeous covered bridge, very photogenic. its a hotspot for ghost hunters also, its rumored that civil war deserters were hung from there.
    if you plan on staying over night, speaking of ghosts, gettysburg has its fair share of haunted tours too! check out the jennie wade house, she was the only civillian killed in battle. the house is somewhat of a "hang out" for all the spirits of the dead soldiers, as well as the children from the orphanage across the street, which also gives haunted tours. children who were left without parents after the war were put in this orphanage, but the head mistress was evil and tortured them in the basement. sad sad story.
    they have walking tours around town also that takes you up around gettysburg college and all over, with the guide giving ghost stories along the way. theres probably a lot more i'm not telling you but i don't wanna bore you! here's some of my pictures if you wanna check it out http://www.flickr.com/photos/22037544@N00/sets/72157603952883530/detail/
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  • RiverrunnerRiverrunner Posts: 2,419
    Nice photos Spat.

    I was at Gettysburg when I was in 7th grade, and that was many, many, many years ago. However, I still remember it and would like to go back as an adult. We were there only for a short time though and I only remember driving through the area with the monuments.

    What I remember most is going to the gift shop afterwards and buying a slug that was found on the battlefield. Apparently there were so many that they felt it was o.k. to sell them for like 50 cents each. I still have it somewhere. Everytime I run across it I think of my Great-great-grandfather who fought in the Civil War for an Illinois Infantry and was shot in the back at Vicksburg. He survived and my great aunt told me that for many years the slug that was dug out of his back was kept by the family. Somewhere down through the years it was misplaced. So anyway, I associate the slug from the Gettysburg battlefield with the one my g-g-grandfather was shot with.

    I wonder if the gift shop still sells those slugs.
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  • chiquimonkeychiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
    spat thank you so much for sharing all that, and those pictures! some really moving shots. and no dont' stop sharing, it's not boring at all, i appreciate the info :)

    and i damn near freaked when i saw the pics of eastern state penitentiary :eek: i'm a huge ghost hunters fan and they did an investigation there that was out of control! so of course i look it up....it's right there in philly! i am so intrigued to go. now to convince my dad and sis...they'll think i'm on some death tour lol

    quarter yeah, i definitely want to make the effort to go visit. being on the west coast we aren't exposed to much civil war history, and it's something i'd like to learn more about. going to places like that makes one feel the history more, i dunno.

    riverrunner, thank you for sharing the story about your great-great-grandpa. makes you wonder how many stories like that are out there, considering how many people fought and died on that battlefield over 3 days!
  • PorchsitterPorchsitter Posts: 1,069
    spat wrote:
    50,000 dead over three days.


    Common misconception about Gettysburg. Only 10,000 people actually died. 50,000 were wounded.
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  • spatspat Posts: 644
    Common misconception about Gettysburg. Only 10,000 people actually died. 50,000 were wounded.

    ahhh very good to know! still, ONLY 10,000 over three days is still sort of unfathomable
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  • PorchsitterPorchsitter Posts: 1,069
    spat wrote:
    ahhh very good to know! still, ONLY 10,000 over three days is still sort of unfathomable


    Very much true....especially when you take into consideration the stories of the Bloody Wheatfield.
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  • chiquimonkeychiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
    to think 60,000 people were fighting on those grounds for 3 days, damn.

    as i'm constructing our itinerary, i'm worried we might end up not having time to do it :( it sounds like something i don't want to rush. i'll have to see what i can figure out (and how fast i feel like driving lol)
  • QuarterToTenQuarterToTen Posts: 3,636
    to think 60,000 people were fighting on those grounds for 3 days, damn.

    as i'm constructing our itinerary, i'm worried we might end up not having time to do it :( it sounds like something i don't want to rush. i'll have to see what i can figure out (and how fast i feel like driving lol)

    standing on those battlefields, in the little fenced spot signifying the
    furthest north that the south advanced, the cemetery...
    completely overwhelmed me.

    i hope you can find the time, it will stay with you forever.
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  • MilestoneMilestone Posts: 1,140
    anybody been? toying with the idea of stopping thru on a road trip


    Yes, I've been there. Very much worth visiting. I took a fantastic tour there and there is a very nice museum.

    On a side note, I had a friend that went to college at Gettysburg. He told me some funny stories about tripping on acid on the battlefield at night, and having some intense visions and experiences.
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  • PorchsitterPorchsitter Posts: 1,069
    It's good to take your time, but believe me, I did it in half a day. Would I have liked more time? Absolutely, but it was worth it to take the time out and just get a few hours there. Plus, you can always plan to go back (which I plan on doing some day).

    Oh, and just for perspective.....60,000 seems like a lot, but imagine around 160,000 fighting. That was the estimated sizes of both armies combined.
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  • brain of cbrain of c Posts: 5,213
    Common misconception about Gettysburg. Only 10,000 people actually died. 50,000 were wounded.

    ten thousand americans died. go. take a tour. avoid the hall of presidents. read the headstones. swim @ the pool at the holiday inn. stay for four days. go to boyds bears.
  • it's definitely worth going to. i went once or twice on school trips when i was in high school and just found it to be unbelievable. of course, i ended up a history major in college so maybe i'm biased. but even if you get the chance to do a stop on a road trip and just stay for a few hours, you'll be able to see the museum and the site of the gettysburg address, and to drive through with a couple stops (definitely stop and see the hill where pickett's charge took place).

    also, if you're going to DC, on the way back (although it might be out of your way a little bit) i would recommend stopping in sharpsburg, MD to see the battlefield at antietam. i've been there several times and it never seems any less amazing. there's a few really cool monuments there, plus sites like burnside bridge and the sunken road that are really worth seeing. the bloodiest single day of the civil war took place there, with casualties really heavy on both sides. it was after that battle that lincoln issued the emancipation proclamation; there's a cool 15-20 minute film they show in the main building there that's worth watching as well. i think you can get a CD and do your own tour of that place too, but i'm not sure, as i went with history teachers/professors and never had to utilize one of those. anyway, it's just a thought.
  • whulmefwhulmef Posts: 176
    My junior year in high school I took a week long class on the Civil War. We went to a few battle sites and this was the best one. Being from north carolina, we did the mile march up the hill from the NC memorial. We had confederate flags and NC flags and stayed in formation. Our teacher called out the different marches that would have been done during the charge. There was about 10 inches of snow on the ground which made it that much more fun.

    By the way, for people not from the South, don't get the idea that they are still teaching that the civil war was the "war of northern agression" and that we wished the south won the war, or that they teach that the war wasnt about slavery and it was about states' rights. Only old men still think it was about states' rights anymore here in the South. We were just reinacting the march to get an idea of what happened.
  • chiquimonkeychiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
    thank you everybody for sharing your experiences. it does sound like a very moving place to visit. what we're doing is driving from jersey down to DC, spend a couple days, and then we wanted to hit up philly, stay the night and then drive back up to jersey. even though gettysburg is a bit out of the way, google says it's 2.5 hours from philly, perhaps we can drive there first from dc, and then go to philly. gaaaaah never enough time! lol
  • whulmef wrote:
    My junior year in high school I took a week long class on the Civil War. We went to a few battle sites and this was the best one. Being from north carolina, we did the mile march up the hill from the NC memorial. We had confederate flags and NC flags and stayed in formation. Our teacher called out the different marches that would have been done during the charge. There was about 10 inches of snow on the ground which made it that much more fun.

    By the way, for people not from the South, don't get the idea that they are still teaching that the civil war was the "war of northern agression" and that we wished the south won the war, or that they teach that the war wasnt about slavery and it was about states' rights. Only old men still think it was about states' rights anymore here in the South. We were just reinacting the march to get an idea of what happened.


    well i understand wanting to maintain that it isn't the "war of northern aggression" because it wasn't. but as far as it being about states' rights: that's the crux of the war. that's exactly what it was about. i hope they are still teaching that, because it is the one positive truth. it took the civil war to make the states understand that states' rights were no longer in effect as it were. it was like part II of the american revolution. it did not start over slavery, so i really hope they aren't teaching you that.
  • NCBRINCBRI Posts: 1,902
    I would reccomend a trip to Gettysburg to anyone. It's only about an hour north of DC. Even with a kind of rushed visit, I really enjoyed it. The audio cd really enhances the battlefield tour. Here are some pics I took when I went: http://travel.webshots.com/album/45090074SNjGpb
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  • chiquimonkeychiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
    NCBRI wrote:
    I would reccomend a trip to Gettysburg to anyone. It's only about an hour north of DC. Even with a kind of rushed visit, I really enjoyed it. The audio cd really enhances the battlefield tour. Here are some pics I took when I went: http://travel.webshots.com/album/45090074SNjGpb
    oh it's only an hour? i saw it was like 1hr 45 min on maps google. if it's an hour though, that could be totally doable! thanks for the pics link :)
  • samicksamick Posts: 373
    I want to visit gettysburg so bad............I also want to visit some of WWII sites as well..........But gettysburg is number one on my list......
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