the internet vs. scientology...

justjoshingu

i dont know if anyone has been following this but
over the past week or so, there has been huge amounts of stuff being released pertaining to scientology.

1st the tom cruise video.
then the orientation video.

then loads and loads of secret documents.

all of which is kinda freaky. like i am kinda scared by them.

anyway, apparently there is a couple of groups (mainly one calling itself ANON) that have been responsible for this. and they have been carrying dns attacks on thier servers. they also said they are bringing down this "cult" among other things. and from what i understand they are preparing a march in london at the offices there.

there is gonna be a lot of stuff you will hear about it over the next few weeks let me tell you.

anotherclone

*gets popcorn and waits*

Yes, I have noticed. There is a huge amount of negative stuff on the internet about Scientology now. I have to wonder if the video being released hasn't given some people the balls to start talking about it. To me, it seems like a lot of former members are quite fearful of speaking out.

I really don't get why any "religion" would want to keep things secret? I would think it would entice more members to have all the facts out there.

Unless you really are a cult? Maybe that would do it. A cult that accepts VISA and Mastercard. Yah, you might not want to broadcast that.

justjoshingu

have you seen the orientation video?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Google keeps pulling it and people keep uploading it. I love democracy.

Scientology orientation video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1129189306902637083&hl=en-GB

all you have to do is search for "Scientology orientation video" if the above gets pulled as well.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

I vote no Scientology conspiracy, because the video is supposed to only be seen by candidates at certain stages of softening up process so to speak.

Although an introductory video, it's not meant or be viewed cold, which is why I think it's being censored on Google etc...

Besides the video is boring as hell.. I can't remember watching anything that boring in a long time.

It's all meant to be conducted in person, in a room full of people so as to properly encompass the senses and be followed up with additional material to discourage additional doubt and cynicism. The fun and welcome Scientology vibe by the hospitality squad is not present and around you at any point in the process.

That's how religion based mind control works. Social reassurance and conditioning in a group environment.

Herd mentality plays in.

Nevermind

The pyramid is power.

Blackeyedangel

justjoshingu wrote:

(mainly one calling itself ANON)

lmao... Anonymous strikes again.

Heineken Helen

justjoshingu wrote:

all of which is kinda freaky. like i am kinda scared by them.

huh? Why? All I heard about was Tom Cruise and his speech... what's the other stuff and what's so freaky about the whole thing? It's run by celebrities... not exactly known for their extraordinary brain power.

Jeremy1012

Heineken Helen wrote:

huh? Why? All I heard about was Tom Cruise and his speech... what's the other stuff and what's so freaky about the whole thing? It's run by celebrities... not exactly known for their extraordinary brain power.

It's not run by celebrities, they just get it the publicity. I think it's pretty freaky just by watching Cruise's video, nevermind all the other crap I've read about it. Anyone who can be brainwashed that much has clearly been exposed to some very manipulative people and ideas. The guy is a fucking nut.

justjoshingu

you are meat.
only they have the power to save you. and not like spiritually. i mean if there was a car accident, and you were on fire ,only they have the power to physically save you. no one else can really do it.

and the documents are way worse. its basically an anarchy plan against the govt. and the govt has a mindcontrol plan called? the mindcontrol plan.

that isnt even touching on the parts that talk about xenu, thetans. or how the upper levels cost you like 20k. oh and by upper levels i mean like 3 or 4. and there are like fifty something levels.

i know i'm not making it sound that bad, but you should read the documents....

Heineken Helen

justjoshingu wrote:

you are meat.
only they have the power to save you. and not like spiritually. i mean if there was a car accident, and you were on fire ,only they have the power to physically save you. no one else can really do it.

and the documents are way worse. its basically an anarchy plan against the govt. and the govt has a mindcontrol plan called? the mindcontrol plan.

that isnt even touching on the parts that talk about xenu, thetans. or how the upper levels cost you like 20k. oh and by upper levels i mean like 3 or 4. and there are like fifty something levels.

i know i'm not making it sound that bad, but you should read the documents....

No it all sounds quite good actually... I love anarchy, hate the government and believe in the mindcontrol plan.

Hmm... where do I sign up?

Jeremy1012

Heineken Helen wrote:

No it all sounds quite good actually... I love anarchy, hate the government and believe in the mindcontrol plan.

Hmm... where do I sign up?

They don't really love anarchy, hate the government and believe in the mindcontrol plan, they say this to get people to join. Which costs a shitload of money. Then they tell you that you are enlightened enough to get to level 2, which costs more. Then they tell you that you are special and couldn't possible stay at level 2, you need to shove them a wad of cash and they'll bump you up to level 3, and so on. Even L. Ron Hubbard himself said back in the 50s, on record, "We need to build the religion around the business, not the other way round".

So it's all fine so long as it's just dumb fucks like Tom Cruise wasting his cash and reputation but there are kids being brought up this way and wayward late teens being preyed on because they are looking for direction. There have been a bunch of suicides amongst younger members because of treatment from the "Church" of Scientology.

Heineken Helen

Jeremy1012 wrote:

They don't really love anarchy, hate the government and believe in the mindcontrol plan, they say this to get people to join. Which costs a shitload of money. Then they tell you that you are enlightened enough to get to level 2, which costs more. Then they tell you that you are special and couldn't possible stay at level 2, you need to shove them a wad of cash and they'll bump you up to level 3, and so on. Even L. Ron Hubbard himself said back in the 50s, on record, "We need to build the religion around the business, not the other way round".

So it's all fine so long as it's just dumb fucks like Tom Cruise wasting his cash and reputation but there are kids being brought up this way and wayward late teens being preyed on because they are looking for direction. There have been a bunch of suicides amongst younger members because of treatment from the "Church" of Scientology.

but it sounds like ya need to be pretty rich to join or at least to get far... so fuck em! If they wanna keep throwing their money around, that's their problem! I really just hope that, if I'm ever in a car crash, the first person on the scene is a scientologist

Binaural

"Look's like we'll have to wait a minute, Ron's books are very popular"

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

iamsampj

why i just watched that orientation video...i don't know?! pretty hilarious there at the end...where he said something to the effect of how it'd be stupid for someone to walk away from the video and never mention scientology again. and that you could also "jump off a bridge or blow your brains out". geez...guilt me into joining :rolleyes:

there's a scientology center across from where i work. they're always offering free stress/personality tests. they creep me out!