is this free speech?

Heineken Helen

EddiE wrote:

Even a racist word?

how is a word racist? Word's don't have opinions or feelings

Besides, think of the origin of racist words... most of them weren't always racist. But let's not delve too deep into that cos the thread WILL get locked.

(in short, IMO the answer to your question is 'yes', probably not realistic but yes)

Heineken Helen

catefrances wrote:

yes perhaps so. tis difficult at times for aussies not to be amused when this kind of shit comes up. for the most part we are irrreverant by nature and the odd 'curse' word doesn't seem to fucking bother us much, if at all.

same here... I think Ireland is definitely one of the least pc countries there are so yeh, I agree!

catefrances

Heineken Helen wrote:

same here... I think Ireland is definitely one of the least pc countries there are so yeh, I agree!

well... yah... hello?.. where do you think we got it from? our english overlords?

Heineken Helen

catefrances wrote:

well... yah... hello?.. where do you think we got it from? our english overlords?

doubtful... possibly the fact that we were oppressed for so fucking long that we're making up for it now to piss them off. We have a habit of taking the English accent that they so lovingly gave us... and completely fucking it up and changing words around to suit any situation

halszka123

some people used to say "free speach" when they want to justify the lack of personal culture.
U can use more pleasant words to show Your feelings.
But sometimes U have to say F... U. Some people understand ONLY these words

Vedderlution_Baby

What about fighting words?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_Words

halszka123

BTW. It's funny... Don't You think non-english-languaged people? F... You in english is softer than the same words in my native language. it sounds almost like a joke

justjoshingu

halszka123 wrote:

BTW. It's funny... Don't You think non-english-languaged people? F... You in english is softer than the same words in my native language. it sounds almost like a joke

as far as i can understand it though, cuss words in some ones non-native tongue is never as serious. mainly cause there are not conotations tied to them. plus whenever you learn a foreign language, whats some of the first ones you ask to learn? cuss words.

i was told by some friends that were born and raised in italy, that cussed like nothing else. fuck this, fuck that, fuck you, fuck him ,..... in front of whoever. but in front of thier mother they cussed tons, except in italian. apparently in italian, they wouldn't even say the equivelent of darn.

but would we let a foreigner say fuck you to a 5 year old and just assume he doesnt know better?

think like watching someone like borat do it.

now think of same situation but instead of borat, a shaved head 23 white male. ...

Heineken Helen

halszka123 wrote:

some people used to say "free speach" when they want to justify the lack of personal culture.
U can use more pleasant words to show Your feelings.
But sometimes U have to say F... U. Some people understand ONLY these words

hmm... no, I call bullshit on that one. Just cos some people feel free to use ALL the words at their disposal, doesn't make them any less cultured than the next person. I've heard people swear at the opera! Irish people generally swear a lot... it's part of our vocab... and I wouldn't have it any other way. It's much more fun than having to worry about who you're going to offend. If being cultured is the same as holding back and constantly watching what you're saying... well you can have your culture!

Heineken Helen

justjoshingu wrote:

i was told by some friends that were born and raised in italy, that cussed like nothing else. fuck this, fuck that, fuck you, fuck him ,..... in front of whoever. but in front of thier mother they cussed tons, except in italian. apparently in italian, they wouldn't even say the equivelent of darn.

an Italian friend of mine swears a good bit and when I stayed with her in Tuscany and met her family... she warned me not to use religious swear words... like Jesus or whatever I could say fuck no problem but couldn't say 'holy fucking mother of god'