How do you win this argument?

lockedlocked Boston Posts: 4,039
edited November 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
when someone says to you..

"Stop being so defensive"..

It seems any response is a validation.. yes?
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  • I usually say something like, 'stop provoking me, you know this makes me angry.'
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  • locked wrote:
    when someone says to you..

    "Stop being so defensive"..

    It seems any response is a validation.. yes?

    a shin to the face usually ends the argument. that would probably be considered "offensive"?
  • a shin to the face usually ends the argument. that would probably be considered "offensive"?
    Yell obscenities, then they'll say, "Stop being so offensive and defensive." Then you can just cock your head to the side and look confused.
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  • Say "that's usually what people say to avoid having their ideas tested by vigorous critical debate. How about you respond to my argument instead of what you perceive to be my personality?"
    she was underwhelmed, if that's a word
  • Say "that's usually what people say to avoid having their ideas tested by vigorous critical debate. How about you respond to my argument instead of what you perceive to be my personality?"
    owned, that wins in my book.
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  • memememe Posts: 4,695
    I would say: "Ok, I'll try"

    That should catch them off guard, and then you can think about the least defensive thing to say in response next time. Without, of course, being a doormat. Something like "Please do not talk to me like that" or "I am confident that that was a good decision..." We know little about the context of the argument, so it's hard to give advice :)

    My hunch though is that if you think about it in terms of "winning the argument" then you may be a little defensive. Why not think about it in terms of coming to an agreement, or having a conversation, or trying to solve a problem?
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    Say, "Define defensive."

    When the other person begins to outline what he/she deems to be defensive behavior, say, "Oh, that's not defensive."
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    well, i don't see anything wrong with being defensive. screw those fuckers, just say whatever!
    or just say "it's in our nature to defend ourselves when some prick is trying to attack us, if we didn't do that humans wouldn't have evolved"
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    I usually say something like... "Fuck You!"
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  • lockedlocked Boston Posts: 4,039
    sponger wrote:
    Say, "Define defensive."

    When the other person begins to outline what he/she deems to be defensive behavior, say, "Oh, that's not defensive."

    unified's response almost won me over but this is pure brilliance!

    Love it!

    Thanks!
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  • Usually if someone says that it means you're being too god damn defensive and maybe you should stop. Pretty simple.
    saw things so much clearer
  • eyedclaar wrote:
    I usually say something like... "Fuck You!"
    That was my answer
    All I have to do is revel in the everyday....then do it again tomorrow

    They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
  • saveuplifesaveuplife Posts: 1,173
    Kick em in the balls.
  • Lanegan7Lanegan7 Posts: 124
    That was my answer

    yeah mine too :D
  • Yell obscenities, then they'll say, "Stop being so offensive and defensive." Then you can just cock your head to the side and look confused.

    Which is why I prefer the rear naked choke.
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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,300
    locked wrote:
    when someone says to you..

    "Stop being so defensive"..

    It seems any response is a validation.. yes?


    Tell them "Well, the jerk store called and they are running out of YOU!"

    :D

    Then walk away victorious!
  • muiren77muiren77 Posts: 3,511
    ignore him/her and change the topic
    what is essential is invisible to the eye

    apparently, 07162056 is THE date...
  • seanw1010seanw1010 Posts: 1,205
    the best way to win any arguement:
    "no u"
    they call them fingers, but i never see them fing. oh, there they go
  • AusticmanAusticman Posts: 1,327
    "Well I guess this arguments over if your throwing cliques like at me"

    Then follow it up with

    "Seriously, is that it? Is that the best you've got??"
    I can't go the library anymore, everyone STINKS!!
  • justamjustam Posts: 21,412
    Wanting to win every argument instead of trying to work through the issue itself is probably the wrong approach in general.

    Everyone knows there's nothing wrong with defending yourself. If you don't, who will?

    This could be mentioned as a defense, (:D) but as someone else pointed out, perhaps you should stop and listen when someone says that instead of continuing to argue. :o
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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,300
    justam wrote:
    Wanting to win every argument instead of trying to work through the issue itself is probably the wrong approach in general.

    Everyone knows there's nothing wrong with defending yourself. If you don't, who will?

    This could be mentioned as a defense, (:D) but as someone else pointed out, perhaps you should stop and listen when someone says that instead of continuing to argue. :o


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  • justamjustam Posts: 21,412
    mca47 wrote:
    Don't listen to Dr. Phil here ^...
    :D
    Jerkstore is the answer to your problem!

    :D
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  • lockedlocked Boston Posts: 4,039
    seanw1010 wrote:
    the best way to win any arguement:
    "no u"

    or the playground classic..

    "NaaaHaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!"
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  • angie76angie76 Posts: 646
    locked wrote:
    when someone says to you..

    "Stop being so defensive"..

    It seems any response is a validation.. yes?

    you punch them and walk away....

    lol..j/k. But yeah anything you reply with would seem to validate it. I guess the best thing to do is kind of acknowledge that and try to explain why you are reacting like you are. Sometimes people do not realize they are doing something all the time to get you on the defensive.
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