Sobriety Checkpoints

nothingman44

mookeywrench wrote:

like the 4th amendment?

might be...but i think there is more to it than that.


here you go...you were right about the 4th amendment thing too.
http://media.www.browndailyherald.com/media/storage/paper472/news/2005/03/15/Metro/R.i-Officials.Debate.Return.Of.Sobriety.Checkpoints.To.Combat.Drunk.Driving-894311.shtml

bubbamackdaddy69

nothingman44 wrote:

might be...but i think there is more to it than that.


here you go...you were right about the 4th amendment thing too.
http://media.www.browndailyherald.com/media/storage/paper472/news/2005/03/15/Metro/R.i-Officials.Debate.Return.Of.Sobriety.Checkpoints.To.Combat.Drunk.Driving-894311.shtml

hmmm...good read.... I'm such a supporter of people's freedoms and such but I like these checkpoints. We have them here in Ontario and it's good that we have them. I'm 31 now and wiser...lol..at least I hope so but I used to drink and drive when I was younger and in college..not excessively but I did....point is that if you can stop someone from driving from the these checkpoints then it's good... It could save a life or lives
Anyhow...to make light of this...maybe about 10 years ago I drove through one...(literally)... and obviously they came chasing after me and pulled me over....I was drunk....had some hash in the car,,,etc as well... got out and took a breathalizer.... no clue how but I passed...I then got in my car and drove off..I was lucky...

nothingman44

bubbamackdaddy69 wrote:

hmmm...good read.... I'm such a supporter of people's freedoms and such but I like these checkpoints. We have them here in Ontario and it's good that we have them. I'm 31 now and wiser...lol..at least I hope so but I used to drink and drive when I was younger and in college..not excessively but I did....point is that if you can stop someone from driving from the these checkpoints then it's good... It could save a life or lives
Anyhow...to make light of this...maybe about 10 years ago I drove through one...(literally)... and obviously they came chasing after me and pulled me over....I was drunk....had some hash in the car,,,etc as well... got out and took a breathalizer.... no clue how but I passed...I then got in my car and drove off..I was lucky...

same thing happened to me once. didnt go through a checkpoint but i got pulled over one night with a couple of my roomates in the car. i was hammered and had no business being behind the wheel. one of my roommates had a bag of pot on him too, so we were all shitting our pants big time. we had a pizza in the car and the cop just figured we were out geting a bite to eat at 130 in the morning, so he let us go.

the reason i got pulled over in the first place is because the "temp" plate on my new car was not visible. nothing like being hammered with a bag of pot in the car, and having cops surround your car with guns drawn...it knocks a little sense in you. just a little...

bubbamackdaddy69

nothingman44 wrote:

same thing happened to me once. didnt go through a checkpoint but i got pulled over one night with a couple of my roomates in the car. i was hammered and had no business being behind the wheel. one of my roommates had a bag of pot on him too, so we were all shitting our pants big time. we had a pizza in the car and the cop just figured we were out geting a bite to eat at 130 in the morning, so he let us go.

the reason i got pulled over in the first place is because the "temp" plate on my new car was not visible. nothing like being hammered with a bag of pot in the car, and having cops surround your car with guns drawn...it knocks a little sense in you. just a little...

Oh definetly !....wakes ya up a little eh !....lol

chiquimonkey

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

what...nobody got tased curbside?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc

checkpoints are good things, i've been thru one once, and the guy in front of me had to step out of his car. so if he was jacked up, i was just glad he was caught!

what's as scary as people driving around fucked up are people who are all distracted with xmas shopping....i have seen some spastic ass road moves over the past couple of days. freaks lol

bubbamackdaddy69

chiquimonkey wrote:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc

checkpoints are good things, i've been thru one once, and the guy in front of me had to step out of his car. so if he was jacked up, i was just glad he was caught!

what's as scary as people driving around fucked up are people who are all distracted with xmas shopping....i have seen some spastic ass road moves over the past couple of days. freaks lol

LOL....that's a funny video man.....
but like you said...yeah xmas shopping drivers are really really bad as well...I'm always on the road driving with my job and noticed that alot..

NOCODE#1

PJPixie wrote:

Driving home from a bar last night at exactly 2am, Senrock and I got routed thru a sobriety checkpoint. It was rather entertaining. I was driving and completely sober, although Sen had a flask FULL of Jack in her pocket.
I had a grilled cheese sandwhich in my hand and I had to pass it to Senrock so I could show my lisence to the officer. Good times. In all honesty I think these are good things. Sucks for the assholes that are driving drunk but i'm sure these checkpoints save lives. Happy Holidays everyone and please don't DRINK and DRIVE!!

the stupidity of having an open container


yup real cool!

pineapplesandwaves

tylerpjtx wrote:

what states are these checkpoints in? i've heard of them but not much. we dont have them in tx. seems a little invasive....basically pulling people over for no good reason. but they prob do wonders for accidents.

We've had the RIDE (Reduce Impaired Driving Everywhere) program in Ontario for 30 years. It occurs all year long, but there are more spot checks in December and the summer, especially the long weekends.

bubbamackdaddy69

NOCODE#1 wrote:

the stupidity of having an open container


yup real cool!

come on !...been there done that....In all honesty who cares if there was an open bottle if in all truth the driver was not drinking...really...yeah it sucks kinda but he's driving the drunks homes.....lol....but the main point is the person behind the wheel isn't....

mca47

I realize the checkpoints do good in curbing drinking and driving, but something about it just doesn't sit well with me. I've been through a few and been pulled over every time. 2 of the 3 times the cop(s) were total dickheads.

Pulling people over randomly seems crazy to me.

Why not have the security guard at a store pat down random customers as they leave "just in case" they stole something.
Why not have cops randomly enter people's houses "just in case" they are doing something illegal.
Why not tap peoples phones "jus...." oh wait, they already do that.

I dunno, I'm all for patrolling the streets and pulling people over if there is a reason...but to me these checkpoints seem unconstitutional.

bubbamackdaddy69

mca47 wrote:

I realize the checkpoints do good in curbing drinking and driving, but something about it just doesn't sit well with me. I've been through a few and been pulled over every time. 2 of the 3 times the cop(s) were total dickheads.

Pulling people over randomly seems crazy to me.

Why not have the security guard at a store pat down random customers as they leave "just in case" they stole something.
Why not have cops randomly enter people's houses "just in case" they are doing something illegal.
Why not tap peoples phones "jus...." oh wait, they already do that.

I dunno, I'm all for patrolling the streets and pulling people over if there is a reason...but to me these checkpoints seem unconstitutional.

To contradict myself I agree with you as well...really I do....but I do agree it does get some drunk ass people off the roads some nights...

PJPixie

bubbamackdaddy69 wrote:

come on !...been there done that....In all honesty who cares if there was an open bottle if in all truth the driver was not drinking...really...yeah it sucks kinda but he's driving the drunks homes.....lol....but the main point is the person behind the wheel isn't....

Yes, as I said before. I was completey sober. In fact, the flask was completely full. Sen hadn't even had a drop of it.

I had to drive thru another checkpoint on the way home last night after my company christmas party. Again, I was totally sober.

I do see how these checkpoints seem like an invasion but I agree 100% that they do save lives.

bubbamackdaddy69

PJPixie wrote:

Yes, as I said before. I was completey sober. In fact, the flask was completely full. Sen hadn't even had a drop of it.

I had to drive thru another checkpoint on the way home last night after my company christmas party. Again, I was totally sober.

I do see how these checkpoints seem like an invasion but I agree 100% that they do save lives.

Well that's good then....Even if Sen drank half or all of it the point is you were drinving and were sober....Having drunks in the car is sometimes part of dealing the fact of being the DD....
I'm off to bed...
Merry Xmas to all.. !!

SENROCK

first of all, pixxxie and i live in so cal so thats where the checkpoint was. near the beach.

secondly to the one moron on here whos name i wont bring attention to....it was NOT an open container that i was actually drinking out of so WHATEVER.

thirdly, i agree that it IS very good to have these checkpoints. my big brother died becuz of drunk driving so im really defensive against that.

fourth-lee.......im NOT a drunk!!! carry on!

tylerpjtx

mca47 wrote:

I realize the checkpoints do good in curbing drinking and driving, but something about it just doesn't sit well with me. I've been through a few and been pulled over every time. 2 of the 3 times the cop(s) were total dickheads.

Pulling people over randomly seems crazy to me.

Why not have the security guard at a store pat down random customers as they leave "just in case" they stole something.
Why not have cops randomly enter people's houses "just in case" they are doing something illegal.
Why not tap peoples phones "jus...." oh wait, they already do that.

I dunno, I'm all for patrolling the streets and pulling people over if there is a reason...but to me these checkpoints seem unconstitutional.

I agree with you 100%! the govt is so invasive in so many ways. its one thing to protect people, its another to question people without probable cause. i cant stand the idea of government (which is really just a group of PEOPLE, just like us) sticking their heads into what i'm doing at this level. i wonder how much of a revenue generator things like these are. however, if the people are drunk, they're breaking the law obviously...but to me its just not right to pull someone over unless they did something.