Here's a candidate for soon-to-be mother of the year...

blackredyellow

Police: Pregnant woman, denied drink, attacks bartender
Friday, February 15, 2008
The Associated Press

A woman who is seven months pregnant is accused of smashing a beer bottle against a bartender's head after she was refused another drink.

Police say 30-year-old Keisharra Abercrombie of Rochester assaulted the female bartender on Saturday after being told she shouldn't be drinking alcohol.

Police say Ms. Abercrombie also smashed a glass over the bartender's ear and head.

Authorities say the bartender's ear was partially detached. A surgeon in Pittsburgh used two staples and 28 stitches to reattach the top of the ear.

Ms. Abercrombie was arraigned Wednesday on charges of aggravated assault, simple assault, harassment and reckless endangerment. She was in the Beaver County Jail on $25,000 bail.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08046/857764-100.stm

Rygar

"Oh ho ho!
You say ees mother of year when she not good mother at all!
Ees opposite!
Oh ho ho!"



This is why so many people shouldn't be allowed to produce offspring.

Steve Dunne

1.) She's drinkin' for 2!
2.) That Yuengling is some good brew!
3.) NEVER tell a Rochester girl she's had too much to drink because it's none of your damn business! (ala caddyshack)

Heineken Helen

WOW! As soon as ya become pregnant everybody owns ya :mad:

Phantom Pain

Steve Dunne wrote:

1.) She's drinkin' for 2!
2.) That Yuengling is some good brew!
3.) NEVER tell a Rochester girl she's had too much to drink because it's none of your damn business! (ala caddyshack)

Mmmmmmm Yuengling

America's Oldest Brewery !

May have a few this weekend heading to AC on Saturday !

Poor kid....Mom sounds like a winner

Rygar

Heineken Helen wrote:

WOW! As soon as ya become pregnant everybody owns ya :mad:

What?

Heineken Helen

Rygar wrote:

What?

is the barmaid a doctor?

can a doctor even stop someone from drinking? Sad SAD state of affairs.

Steve Dunne

Heineken Helen wrote:

WOW! As soon as ya become pregnant everybody owns ya :mad:

Ya know I love ya but I gotta disagree here. Bartenders have the right to refuse patrons a drink if they think they've had too much. The bartender may have also noticed the pregnancy and was trying to do the right thing by showing some 'tough love'.

Rygar

Heineken Helen wrote:

is the barmaid a doctor?

can a doctor even stop someone from drinking? Sad SAD state of affairs.

So seven month pregnant women should be boozing it up?

Heineken Helen

Steve Dunne wrote:

Ya know I love ya but I gotta disagree here. Bartenders have the right to refuse patrons a drink if they think they've had too much. The bartender may have also noticed the pregnancy and was trying to do the right thing by showing some 'tough love'.

If she had had enough and was drunk, fair enough... which by the sounds of her attacking the barmaid then could be close to the truth... I can understand that.

But I don't think someone else should decide a pregnant woman can't drink! At the end of the day it's up to the mother... and fuck, if I'd to go through that for 9 months... no WAY I'm doing it without a drink or two

Heineken Helen

Rygar wrote:

So seven month pregnant women should be boozing it up?

If that's what they wanna do, that's what they wanna do. And according to studies... nobody should really be boozing it up :rolleyes: who are we to listen to? Chocolates bad for ya one day, next day it's a superfood.

Rygar

Heineken Helen wrote:

If that's what they wanna do, that's what they wanna do. And according to studies... nobody should really be boozing it up :rolleyes: who are we to listen to? Chocolates bad for ya one day, next day it's a superfood.

If that is what they wanna do, then they shouldn't be allowed to have kids.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_alcohol_syndrome
Is the risk worth it?

small town beck

Rygar wrote:

So seven month pregnant women should be boozing it up?

Isn't that the norm in Cape Breton???


LOL

Seriously I just heard about a pregnant woman in BC was was driving drunk and died. Left behind two other kids. WTF is wrong with people???

I would love to fall in love, get pregnant and CARE for a baby. And others just do it so willy nilly with no regard.

Steve Dunne

Heineken Helen wrote:

If she had had enough and was drunk, fair enough... which by the sounds of her attacking the barmaid then could be close to the truth... I can understand that.

But I don't think someone else should decide a pregnant woman can't drink! At the end of the day it's up to the mother... and fuck, if I'd to go through that for 9 months... no WAY I'm doing it without a drink or two

I agree...a beer or wine or two is fine...hell i've served my pregnant wife x3. But this girl was shut off for being drunk. The fact that she was pregnant was secondary here.

Heineken Helen

Rygar wrote:

If that is what they wanna do, then they shouldn't be allowed to have kids.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_alcohol_syndrome
Is the risk worth it?

'Thus, the current recommendation is not to drink at all during pregnancy'

since when? I read recently that a glass or two of wine here and there is just fine!

Heineken Helen

Steve Dunne wrote:

I agree...a beer or wine or two is fine...hell i've served my pregnant wife x3. But this girl was shut off for being drunk. The fact that she was pregnant was secondary here.

well then I'm in complete agreement with ya... someone getting drunk and rowdy they're well within their rights not to serve them anymore.

I'm just going down the obvious line this thread will go down... do bar staff have the right to refuse somebody drink just because they're pregnant? Absolutely not IMO

Rygar

small town beck wrote:

Isn't that the norm in Cape Breton???


LOL

Seriously I just heard about a pregnant woman in BC was was driving drunk and died. Left behind two other kids. WTF is wrong with people???

I would love to fall in love, get pregnant and CARE for a baby. And others just do it so willy nilly with no regard.

Like Steve said, a little bit here and there is probably fine, but use some common sense.

And yes, I think it is the norm in CB. We even substitute shine for milk on cereal every morning to start the day off right.

Rygar

Heineken Helen wrote:

'Thus, the current recommendation is not to drink at all during pregnancy'

since when? I read recently that a glass or two of wine here and there is just fine!

I'm not arguing over a glass of wine or two (I have heard that as well).
Avoiding steady drinking and drinking in excess during pregnancy should be a no-brainer.

Brain of J.Lo

Just for the sake of argument...

My doc said a drink once in a while (after the first trimester was over) was just fine! :eek: Seriously.

I didn't drink though. I had high blood pressure so I didn't even have caffeine while I was pregnant!

Brain of J.Lo

Oh, I guess I put that last reply in a little too slowly.

I got distracted by the baby. (She's drunk again. :rolleyes:)

small town beck

Rygar wrote:

Like Steve said, a little bit here and there is probably fine, but use some common sense.

And yes, I think it is the norm in CB. We even substitute shine for milk on cereal every morning to start the day off right.

Exactly I am not saying a glass of wine later on is wrong but doesn't sound like classy lady there was just having one to relax.

haha well on PEI we put shine in the baby's bottle :P

Heineken Helen

Rygar wrote:

I'm not arguing over a glass of wine or two (I have heard that as well).
Avoiding steady drinking and drinking in excess during pregnancy should be a no-brainer.

well I apologise for jumping into that one too early. I think I was under the impression people were implying that pregnant women shouldn't drink at all... and I was just disagreeing with that.

If you drink lots and often during pregnancy... well there's a word for that... alcoholism... and it shouldn't be frowned upon but helped. But other than that, I know too many people that think it irresponsible and disgusting for a pregnant woman to even be IN a pub

Rygar

small town beck wrote:

Exactly I am not saying a glass of wine later on is wrong but doesn't sound like classy lady there was just having one to relax.

haha well on PEI we put shine in the baby's bottle :P

Makes me miss my bottle years

Heineken Helen

Brain of J.Lo wrote:

Oh, I guess I put that last reply in a little too slowly.

I got distracted by the baby. (She's drunk again. :rolleyes:)

dip her dummy/soother/whatever the fuck you people call it in some brandy and that'll shut her up

Medicated-Genius

Heineken Helen wrote:

'Thus, the current recommendation is not to drink at all during pregnancy'

since when? I read recently that a glass or two of wine here and there is just fine!

I'm a midwife, and the current recommendation is to avoid alcohol altogether. Recent research is suggesting that even small amounts of alcohol can be harmful, since brain development continues into childhood and beyond. Since it's difficult to measure when the effects are most pronounced, or at what volume of consumption damage can occur, the advice health professionals are giving these days is to err on the side of caution.

Heineken Helen

Medicated-Genius wrote:

I'm a midwife, and the current recommendation is to avoid alcohol altogether. Recent research is suggesting that even small amounts of alcohol can be harmful, since brain development continues into childhood and beyond. Since it's difficult to measure when the effects are most pronounced, or at what volume of consumption damage can occur, the advice health professionals are giving these days is to err on the side of caution.

of course they're gonna say to avoid it altogether... cos they don't know. I would agree with erring on the side of caution... but I seriously doubt there's any evidence to back a glass or two here and there leading to fetal alcohol syndrome.

norm

http://www.funnyandjokes.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/smoking-while-pregnant.jpg

Medicated-Genius

Heineken Helen wrote:

of course they're gonna say to avoid it altogether... cos they don't know. I would agree with erring on the side of caution... but I seriously doubt there's any evidence to back a glass or two here and there leading to fetal alcohol syndrome.

Fetal alcohol syndrome isn't the only effect of alcohol consumption in pregnancy though. FAS occurs in babies whose mothers consumed a lot of alcohol fairly consistently throughout pregnancy, particularly the first trimester. These children are born with all the appearences of a chromosomal abnormality, are usually mentally disabled to varying degrees, have behavioural disorders, learning disorders etc.
The argument is that more subtle brain damage can occur. Children with none of the classic physical characteristics of FAS, but with learning disabilities, behavioural problems and the like. It's easy to assume that alcohol in small quantities is harmless, because it's such a socially accepted part of our society, but the reality is that it's as dangerous a drug as any other, and consuming even a small amount in pregnancy can be harmful.

blackredyellow

cutback wrote:

http://www.funnyandjokes.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/smoking-while-pregnant.jpg

hahahaha


One of the most uncomfortable times of my life was at a bar that I went to a few years ago... I ran into a guy that I was sorta friends with but who I haven't seen in a long time. He introduced me to his girlfriend who was noticeably pregnant and holding a bottle of beer and a cigarette. I just wanted to get away from them as quickly as possible.

Heineken Helen

blackredyellow wrote:

hahahaha


One of the most uncomfortable times of my life was at a bar that I went to a few years ago... I ran into a guy that I was sorta friends with but who I haven't seen in a long time. He introduced me to his girlfriend who was noticeably pregnant and holding a bottle of beer and a cigarette. I just wanted to get away from them as quickly as possible.

I was at the christening of a girl I worked withs son once... she came from a lovely family... such great people if you're in the good books, if you're not they're not so great... and same with their friends, neighbours, family whatever! Anytime I went out for a cigarette I was surrounded by half drunk heavily pregnant 17/18 year olds chain smoking :eek: I was quite embarrassed for them

KosmicJelli

What about cigarettes? WTF... if yah drink yah gotta have at least one smoke?

Dunne is right...bartenders have the authority can refuse drinks to anyone.