Or buy an upconverting DVD player for like 100 bucks, it won't be as snazzy as BD, but certainly a cheaper upgrade, especially if you don't have a 1080 HDTV.
Already? This thing has gone on for far too long already.
Yes, blu-ray has won. It's over.
I'm amazed by how ignorant people remain to disc formats. The reason VHS didn't work with DVD players is because they are two completely different mediums. Blu-ray is on a disc just like DVD, so as long as the player supports the DVD format it should be good (and come on, what company is going to be dumb enough to not include DVD playback on their blu-ray players?)
Already? This thing has gone on for far too long already.
Yes, blu-ray has won. It's over.
I'm amazed by how ignorant people remain to disc formats. The reason VHS didn't work with DVD players is because they are two completely different mediums. Blu-ray is on a disc just like DVD, so as long as the player supports the DVD format it should be good (and come on, what company is going to be dumb enough to not include DVD playback on their blu-ray players?)
"Already" as in a frustration "already", like "get on with it already!"..
right. still will be a couple years (at least) till the format finally gets a strangehold on people's attention tho. DVDs are still extremely popular.
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blu-ray wins. now more companies will design blu-ray players. unless sony owns some kinda patent. im still not gonna buy a blu-ray yet but im glad this thing is over with.
right. still will be a couple years (at least) till the format finally gets a strangehold on people's attention tho. DVDs are still extremely popular.
No doubt. But I'm excited because all new releases will finally be available on one format. Eventually anyway. Wondering what Universal and Paramount's plans are looking like. I assume they had some sort of plan ready for this to happen.
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No doubt. But I'm excited because all new releases will finally be available on one format. Eventually anyway. Wondering what Universal and Paramount's plans are looking like. I assume they had some sort of plan ready for this to happen.
paramount and universal make it official that they will start making blu-ray dvds.
I just bought an HD-DVD player. Crazy? Hear me out.
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I went down to Costco and picked up a Toshiba HD-DVD player for 79 bucks. It came with the first 2 'Bourne Identity' movies... which I haven't seen either of, yet. I fill out a coupon and send it in and get 5 more HD-DVDs.
Stupid me? Wait... I got/get 7 HD-DVDs and a player for 79 dollars.
Compared to the $449.00 Blu-Ray player at Costco, 79 bucks is cheap. This way... I can wait out the technology/price curve and wait another 4 or 5 years til the Blu-Ray players get into the 100 dollar range. The HD-DVD player will still play my regular DVDs, right? Also.. the stores that carry HD-DVDS will be dumping them for cheap.
Now, for the cost of about 80 bucks, i can pass the time til the Blu-rays come down in price, as the manufacturers compete for the business and pick one up at a managable price.
...
Does that makes any sense?
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I just bought an HD-DVD player. Crazy? Hear me out.
...
I went down to Costco and picked up a Toshiba HD-DVD player for 79 bucks. It came with the first 2 'Bourne Identity' movies... which I haven't seen either of, yet. I fill out a coupon and send it in and get 5 more HD-DVDs.
Stupid me? Wait... I got/get 7 HD-DVDs and a player for 79 dollars.
Compared to the $449.00 Blu-Ray player at Costco, 79 bucks is cheap. This way... I can wait out the technology/price curve and wait another 4 or 5 years til the Blu-Ray players get into the 100 dollar range. The HD-DVD player will still play my regular DVDs, right? Also.. the stores that carry HD-DVDS will be dumping them for cheap.
Now, for the cost of about 80 bucks, i can pass the time til the Blu-rays come down in price, as the manufacturers compete for the business and pick one up at a managable price.
...
Does that makes any sense?
sure it makes sense. but even if you buy HDDVD movies for the next year sor so at a really low price, you are still investing in a format that will be gone very soon. not to mention , there will be no new movies released in the HDDVD format. so regardless, i think its a waste. what happens when your HDDVD player finally craps out on you, ( and it will ) and you cant get another one, and you have 50 HDDVD's that you bought out of the bargin bin for 5 bucks a pop, and you cant play them?
more power to ya, not my thing. good luck.
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sure it makes sense. but even if you buy HDDVD movies for the next year sor so at a really low price, you are still investing in a format that will be gone very soon. not to mention , there will be no new movies released in the HDDVD format. so regardless, i think its a waste. what happens when your HDDVD player finally craps out on you, ( and it will ) and you cant get another one, and you have 50 HDDVD's that you bought out of the bargin bin for 5 bucks a pop, and you cant play them?
more power to ya, not my thing. good luck.
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Thanx...
The way I'm playing it... i'm not planning on buying a bunch of HD-DVDs... unless they are at the 99cent Store. I can always buy the Blu-Ray version later and take the 5 dollar per disc loss spread across the time span i run the HD-DVD player... 5 bucks spread across 4 to 6 years ain't much. And hopefully, the costs of the Blu-ray discs will have gone down by then.
And when the thing craps out... it craps out. Oh, well. What do you do when your equipment craps out these days? It gets tossed. Everything manufactured today is built to die.... manufactured to make it cheaper to replace than repair.
And if it doesn't die... i can alway relegate it to the spare television... or move it into the garage to play CDs until it does.
It's 80 bucks spread over 5 to 6 years.
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I don't know cosmo, but to me that seemed like a bad idea. You can get a PS3 for $399 which comes with 5 free Blu discs and be in the format of the future and has free firmware downloads and a game system to boot.
Yeah, the HD-DVD player cost you $80 and got a couple of free movies but it's dead and done with. Bluray players will come down and most big name companies will be less then $200...they've all admitted to it. THey have cheaper BD players in Japan now that are about $150.
Bluray is in the same spot DVD players were years ago. Soon as it became "The format" you could get players for next to nothing.
Personally I would have taken that $80 you spent and either a) saved for a BD player or b) bought some DVDs while waiting because your future BD player will play them quite nicely.
I don't know cosmo, but to me that seemed like a bad idea. You can get a PS3 for $399 which comes with 5 free Blu discs and be in the format of the future and has free firmware downloads and a game system to boot.
Yeah, the HD-DVD player cost you $80 and got a couple of free movies but it's dead and done with. Bluray players will come down and most big name companies will be less then $200...they've all admitted to it. THey have cheaper BD players in Japan now that are about $150.
Bluray is in the same spot DVD players were years ago. Soon as it became "The format" you could get players for next to nothing.
Personally I would have taken that $80 you spent and either a) saved for a BD player or b) bought some DVDs while waiting because your future BD player will play them quite nicely.
An overlooked aspect of Cosmo's plan is that there is currently enough HD-DVDs available to have a 'collection' rivalling most people's current dvd collection, if you like enough of them. When the fire sale starts (er, continues) he can amass quite the collection of HD DVDs, and even with no more movies being released on HD DVD after <insert date here> he'll still be able to find them for a while.
That said, if Blu Ray can catch on eventually you'll want to get on board (unless the NEW format is out by the time you're ready ).
sweet! it would've been a pain in the ass replacing my DVD's if you couldn't.
There will only be a few in my collection that I will upgrade to Blu. Other then those I won't be replacing much. All new purchases will be on BD though.
I don't know cosmo, but to me that seemed like a bad idea. You can get a PS3 for $399 which comes with 5 free Blu discs and be in the format of the future and has free firmware downloads and a game system to boot.
Yeah, the HD-DVD player cost you $80 and got a couple of free movies but it's dead and done with. Bluray players will come down and most big name companies will be less then $200...they've all admitted to it. THey have cheaper BD players in Japan now that are about $150.
Bluray is in the same spot DVD players were years ago. Soon as it became "The format" you could get players for next to nothing.
Personally I would have taken that $80 you spent and either a) saved for a BD player or b) bought some DVDs while waiting because your future BD player will play them quite nicely.
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I know it's dead... think of me at the electronics Vulture or Hyena. I don't see it as an investment... more as an expenditure.
I get to see my current DVDs on HD... most of which I don't think are worth replacing with Blu-Ray... except maybe 'Star Wars' or 'Lord Of the Rings'.
and I don't play video games... and i don't watch that many movies. Right now, the Blu-Ray player at Costco is $449.95... I want to pick one up when they drop to about the 150 range. I figure, by then.. the discs will be cheaper, too. To me... 450 bucks is a lot.. but 80... hell, I just dropped 86 bucks on one Eddie Vedder ticket.
Anyway.. it works for a lot tech cheapskate like me.
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Yeah. Not only can you play them but the player will upconvert them to "near-HD" quality.
It's a nice little perk of BD players!
All TVs have upconversion in them. They have to. Upconversion DVD players are typically good becasue they have better upconversion chips built into them. Generally speaking, if you have a half decent HD TV, it will already process the upconversion as good as any upconverting DVD player. All upconversion really does is fill in for missing pixels. The better the chip, the smoother it replicates missing video information.
i was at best buy today $150 for a hd-dvd player plus 5 hd-dvds, hahahaha. the hd-dvd choices were slim but they sure are trying to clear that stuff out already.
Microsoft's Games Developers Conference keynote speaker John Schappert has said the firm has no plans to release a Blu-ray drive for its Xbox 360 games console in the near future.
When asked if Microsoft plans to release a Blu-ray drive in light of the demise of HD-DVD, Microsoft's corporate vice president of live, software and services said 'no' while implying that add-on drives don't appear to work for Xbox 360 gamers, pointing out that its HD-DVD drive only enjoyed a 3% attach rate.
"We have no plans to announce anything like that right now. But I'd also urge you to look at the attach rate for the HD-DVD drive," Schappert told Eurogamer. "It was a 3% attach rate...you also have to take into account how did the other accessory do when you look at the future."
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Yes, blu-ray has won. It's over.
I'm amazed by how ignorant people remain to disc formats. The reason VHS didn't work with DVD players is because they are two completely different mediums. Blu-ray is on a disc just like DVD, so as long as the player supports the DVD format it should be good (and come on, what company is going to be dumb enough to not include DVD playback on their blu-ray players?)
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right. still will be a couple years (at least) till the format finally gets a strangehold on people's attention tho. DVDs are still extremely popular.
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here is the story on the yahoo page.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080219/ap_on_bi_ge/japan_toshiba
No doubt. But I'm excited because all new releases will finally be available on one format. Eventually anyway. Wondering what Universal and Paramount's plans are looking like. I assume they had some sort of plan ready for this to happen.
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Can't wait for Paramount to release some Blu-ray movies!
as of today, toshiba announced they will abandon all work on HDDVD.
Toshiba was the formats strongest supporter, they will be going Blu-ray.
this is a major nail in the coffin of HDDVD.
no go out and buy your PS3, or blu-ray players with confindence.
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paramount and universal make it official that they will start making blu-ray dvds.
http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/patterson/12789;_ylt=AiglZCAcFTaeRr20oae._5aOMJA5
http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Universal/Universal__Studios_Goes_Blu/1483
Hahaha, imagine that!
Good to see though. I'm glad all the movies will be coming out on Blu!
And Universal Studios are "focusing their attention on blu-ray."
http://cbs5.com/entertainment/toshiba.hd.dvd.2.657827.html
Can you play normal DVD's on a Blu-Ray player?
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I went down to Costco and picked up a Toshiba HD-DVD player for 79 bucks. It came with the first 2 'Bourne Identity' movies... which I haven't seen either of, yet. I fill out a coupon and send it in and get 5 more HD-DVDs.
Stupid me? Wait... I got/get 7 HD-DVDs and a player for 79 dollars.
Compared to the $449.00 Blu-Ray player at Costco, 79 bucks is cheap. This way... I can wait out the technology/price curve and wait another 4 or 5 years til the Blu-Ray players get into the 100 dollar range. The HD-DVD player will still play my regular DVDs, right? Also.. the stores that carry HD-DVDS will be dumping them for cheap.
Now, for the cost of about 80 bucks, i can pass the time til the Blu-rays come down in price, as the manufacturers compete for the business and pick one up at a managable price.
...
Does that makes any sense?
Hail, Hail!!!
sure it makes sense. but even if you buy HDDVD movies for the next year sor so at a really low price, you are still investing in a format that will be gone very soon. not to mention , there will be no new movies released in the HDDVD format. so regardless, i think its a waste. what happens when your HDDVD player finally craps out on you, ( and it will ) and you cant get another one, and you have 50 HDDVD's that you bought out of the bargin bin for 5 bucks a pop, and you cant play them?
more power to ya, not my thing. good luck.
"To question your government is not unpatriotic --
to not question your government is unpatriotic."
-- Sen. Chuck Hagel
Thanx...
The way I'm playing it... i'm not planning on buying a bunch of HD-DVDs... unless they are at the 99cent Store. I can always buy the Blu-Ray version later and take the 5 dollar per disc loss spread across the time span i run the HD-DVD player... 5 bucks spread across 4 to 6 years ain't much. And hopefully, the costs of the Blu-ray discs will have gone down by then.
And when the thing craps out... it craps out. Oh, well. What do you do when your equipment craps out these days? It gets tossed. Everything manufactured today is built to die.... manufactured to make it cheaper to replace than repair.
And if it doesn't die... i can alway relegate it to the spare television... or move it into the garage to play CDs until it does.
It's 80 bucks spread over 5 to 6 years.
Hail, Hail!!!
Yeah, the HD-DVD player cost you $80 and got a couple of free movies but it's dead and done with. Bluray players will come down and most big name companies will be less then $200...they've all admitted to it. THey have cheaper BD players in Japan now that are about $150.
Bluray is in the same spot DVD players were years ago. Soon as it became "The format" you could get players for next to nothing.
Personally I would have taken that $80 you spent and either a) saved for a BD player or b) bought some DVDs while waiting because your future BD player will play them quite nicely.
Yeah. Not only can you play them but the player will upconvert them to "near-HD" quality.
It's a nice little perk of BD players!
i love my low-priced dvds
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An overlooked aspect of Cosmo's plan is that there is currently enough HD-DVDs available to have a 'collection' rivalling most people's current dvd collection, if you like enough of them. When the fire sale starts (er, continues) he can amass quite the collection of HD DVDs, and even with no more movies being released on HD DVD after <insert date here> he'll still be able to find them for a while.
That said, if Blu Ray can catch on eventually you'll want to get on board (unless the NEW format is out by the time you're ready
sweet! it would've been a pain in the ass replacing my DVD's if you couldn't.
There will only be a few in my collection that I will upgrade to Blu. Other then those I won't be replacing much. All new purchases will be on BD though.
I know it's dead... think of me at the electronics Vulture or Hyena. I don't see it as an investment... more as an expenditure.
I get to see my current DVDs on HD... most of which I don't think are worth replacing with Blu-Ray... except maybe 'Star Wars' or 'Lord Of the Rings'.
and I don't play video games... and i don't watch that many movies. Right now, the Blu-Ray player at Costco is $449.95... I want to pick one up when they drop to about the 150 range. I figure, by then.. the discs will be cheaper, too. To me... 450 bucks is a lot.. but 80... hell, I just dropped 86 bucks on one Eddie Vedder ticket.
Anyway.. it works for a lot tech cheapskate like me.
Hail, Hail!!!
When asked if Microsoft plans to release a Blu-ray drive in light of the demise of HD-DVD, Microsoft's corporate vice president of live, software and services said 'no' while implying that add-on drives don't appear to work for Xbox 360 gamers, pointing out that its HD-DVD drive only enjoyed a 3% attach rate.
"We have no plans to announce anything like that right now. But I'd also urge you to look at the attach rate for the HD-DVD drive," Schappert told Eurogamer. "It was a 3% attach rate...you also have to take into account how did the other accessory do when you look at the future."