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When somebody steals a 163 Million dollar painting..

LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
edited February 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
What, do they just put that shit up on Craigslist?

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/02/11/art.theft/index.html

How the hell do you find a buyer without it being obvious that you have a one of a kind stolen painting?
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  • GreenTeaDiseaseGreenTeaDisease Posts: 3,359
    I have NEVER understood how art theft works...
  • mookie9999mookie9999 Posts: 4,677
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    What, do they just put that shit up on Craigslist?

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/02/11/art.theft/index.html

    How the hell do you find a buyer without it being obvious that you have a one of a kind stolen painting?

    Stolen paintings are usually stolen with a purchaser already lined up. Although maybe freecylce would work. ;)
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  • GreenTeaDiseaseGreenTeaDisease Posts: 3,359
    mookie9999 wrote:
    Stolen paintings are usually stolen with a purchaser already lined up. Although maybe freecylce would work. ;)

    but then what does the purchaser do with it??? if paintings are just being passed around underground wouldn't they lose their value??
  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    why are paintings worth that much ?

    maybe a few million but thats crazy
  • Brain of J.LoBrain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    I imagine there are super rich people that have super secret special galleries with all of their black market art purchases. They probably get a huge thrill out of acquiring the piece, and don't really care all that much about displaying it.

    At least that's how I plan to do it once I become super rich. ;):D
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    mookie9999 wrote:
    Stolen paintings are usually stolen with a purchaser already lined up.

    Bingo... and displaying it wouldn't necessarily be much of a problem, you can always try to pass it off as a reproduction.
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  • LedbetterusLedbetterus Posts: 592
    GreenTeaDisease wrote:
    but then what does the purchaser do with it??? if paintings are just being passed around underground wouldn't they lose their value??

    I don't get it either.

    I'm sure, as someone said, paintings are stolen with a buyer in place.. But then what the hell does that buyer do? Hang it up in a basement so no one can see it? It just seems odd. I'd rather spent $50 on a print and just tell people I stole it, at least when the cops come they can ID it as a fake.
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  • illegal pantsillegal pants Posts: 13,471
    it is all too strange.. which makes it even more fascinating in my opinion..

    especially how they value these paintings!! :eek:
    wah
  • LedbetterusLedbetterus Posts: 592
    Sawyer wrote:
    three words....'Thomas Crown Affair'

    Well he stole the painting to get the girl. Which I guess can be a real life motive. You do get a good look at how a stolen painting would be handled by the police though, and the technology used to determine whether or not a painting is real.
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  • hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Posts: 4,898
    it was actually 4 paintings totalling 160 plus million, but regardless. Think of a bilionare in some mansion with lots of wall space. I love van gogh, but paying 100 mil for it is too much so I'll pay some criminal 1 million to steal it for me. I'll put it up in my house in a room no one will ever see. If someone finds it I'll say I thought it was a reproduction.

    The nazis stole so much art they are still recovering it today, and much has never been found. Museums have even been duped into buying stolen stuff. They wait a few years for things to cool off then move it on the black market. There are a lot of people who don't give a shit about laws, love art, and have lots of $$$$. It is pretty scary how many thefts there are a year from little churches to major museums. Fuck the Mona Lisa was stolen for cryin out loud!

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    Oh yeah the thomas crown affair is a cool idea, but his method would have totally ruined the work of art, exposing a 100 year old painting to that amount of moisture and layering paint over it completely would be a nightmare for a conservator. not to mention the fucking lame ass museum people who couldn't notice the texture of another paiting underneath a water based fake. In addition having a guoache painting over an oil would be hard to do and not have any trained eye see it was not legit as Impressionists mostly paintied in oils, and Gouache is so not oil paint. A fucking 4th grader could tell the difference between an oil and a gouach painting over an oil. Watercolor would never cover an oil painting, and acrylic would be permanent. Water based oils would also be pretty permanent when dry so the only paint he could use that would wash off with water would be Tempera or guache, both very chalky, crackable(on top of an oil based ground would crack a bunch)
    So yeah it is a movie, but even a lame as museum like that could see the "donated" painting was not legit. Especially since they'd have to examine it for insurance purposes and photograph it etc.
    It still was cool in the movie though.

    van goghs go from 20-100 million nowadyas, Monets 7-60 mil, Cez 20-80 mil, and Degas 1-10 mil. Of course it all depends on what work, when it was made, and what is it of.
  • who's_pearljam?who's_pearljam? Posts: 2,104
    I'd put them up next to my Velvet Elvis and the painting of Dogs Playing Poker. :D
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  • senninsennin Posts: 2,146
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/02/14/art.theft/index.html
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    GreenTeaDisease wrote:
    I have NEVER understood how art theft works...

    LOL!!! Me neither...that's why I never persued a career in it.
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