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The power of prayer?

libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
edited June 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
Does anyone here pray? I'm not really religious in the sense that I go to church, I don't really like organized religion. I was raised catholic..so I still have the lil catholic girl in me somewhat.

I just feel when there is so much crap going on and I tried all the fast fixes, prayer just helps me. I haven't done it in a while but I have been dealing with some bad stuff and I think it's time again.
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    I'm not religious and I don't pray. I used to pray, though. Never really helped me that much.
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  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    well? Cmon you all can't be cynical, atheists, agnostics. At least come on here and say Im a silly person for believing it it...:p
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  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    Collin wrote:
    I'm not religious and I don't pray. I used to pray, though. Never really helped me that much.


    Well I never get some kind miracle response..It just makes me feel a little more peaceful I notice. I dunno..maybe it's mind over matter. Im not too religious either. I don't go to church.
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  • IndianSummerIndianSummer Posts: 854
    prayer is very powerful. those who have had very tough lives would likely attest. when all hope seems to be gone, there is nothing that gives you more sustainance than some honest-to-goodness praying to whatever god it is you believe in.
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  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    IndianSummer wrote:
    prayer is very powerful. those who have had very tough lives would likely attest. when all hope seems to be gone, there is nothing that gives you more sustainance than some honest-to-goodness praying to whatever god it is you believe in.

    Agreed :)
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    libragirl wrote:
    Well I never get some kind miracle response..It just makes me feel a little more peaceful I notice. I dunno..maybe it's mind over matter. Im not too religious either. I don't go to church.

    I'm not religious at all, but I do need moments of peace, moments in which I reflect on my life and the troubles in my life and moments in which I don't reflect on anything at all. I usually just take a walk in the woods or I sit somewhere quietly.

    Hm, I knew this thread looked familiar:

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=242917 ;):D
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  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    Collin wrote:
    I'm not religious at all, but I do need moments of peace, moments in which I reflect on my life and the troubles in my life and moments in which I don't reflect on anything at all. I usually just take a walk in the woods or I sit somewhere quietly.

    Hm, I knew this thread looked familiar:

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=242917 ;):D


    Well hey whatever works right? :)

    oops...yeah sorry..didn't mean to rip you off :p Kind of was thinking about..when all else has failed..what do you do?
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  • brainofmebrainofme Posts: 231
    libragirl wrote:
    Well I never get some kind miracle response..It just makes me feel a little more peaceful I notice. I dunno..maybe it's mind over matter. Im not too religious either. I don't go to church.

    this "religious things" are always kind of difficult to describe and talk about. personally i don't go to church and i don't belive in organized religion - just like you. i've prayed in the past but haven't done it in a while. i think it just has something to do with the fact that you have the feeling you can talk to somebody that listens and doesn't have any opinion on what you tell him/her. you don't get criticized or have to defend what you just said. and you can kind of make wishes and hope that somebody out there "hears" it. [well, this does sound funny when you think about it ;-) ]. so i guess there's psychological side to it. i have nothing against praying. it's just a spiritual conversation that can be liberating. and if it doesn't help, it doesn't hurt either.
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    libragirl wrote:
    Well hey whatever works right? :)

    oops...yeah sorry..didn't mean to rip you off :p

    The AET and the MT are two different completely different worlds. :D

    Yep, whatever floats your boat!
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  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    brainofme wrote:
    this "religious things" are always kind of difficult to describe and talk about. personally i don't go to church and i don't belive in organized religion - just like you. i've prayed in the past but haven't done it in a while. i think it just has something to do with the fact that you have the feeling you could talk to somebody that listened and doesn't have any opinion on what you told him. you don't get criticized or have to defend what you just said. and you can kind of make wishes and hope that somebody out there "hears" it. [well, this does sound funny when you think about it ;-) ]. so i guess there's psychological side to it. i have nothing against praying. it's just a spiritual conversation that can be liberating. and if it doesn't help, it doesn't hurt either.

    very well said..that's exactly how I feel that it's not really religious so much as a psychological. The idea that you can confide in someone who will listen to you without judgement. I believe in God and Jesus and I feel when I speak to them that I feel more at ease and peaceful.
    These cuts are leaving creases. Trace the scars to fit the pieces, to tell the story, you don't need to say a word.
  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    Collin wrote:
    The AET and the MT are two different completely different worlds. :D

    You are definitely right about that...I rarely go there..I don't have the courage for that place. :D
    These cuts are leaving creases. Trace the scars to fit the pieces, to tell the story, you don't need to say a word.
  • harmless_little_f***harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    libragirl wrote:
    well? Cmon you all can't be cynical, atheists,diagnostics. At least come on here and say Im a silly person for believing it it...:p

    LOL do you mean 'agnostics'? :o
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  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    LOL do you mean 'agnostics'? :o
    :D



    I don't pray because I don't believe in a god but I do like to meditate which, I suppose, in a way, is kind of like praying to oneself.
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  • facepollutionfacepollution Posts: 6,834
    Whatever gets you through the day......if it works for you keep it up. I have no idea what I believe these days, other than I'm not 100% convinced by anything I've read or been told so far. So yeah, I'm having a time-out from thinking about it, because it messes with my poor brain!
  • MattCameronKicksButtMattCameronKicksButt Posts: 4,317
    I agree. I think God is within yourself. It's a great thing... I never pray, I'm not that kind of spiritual person but I sometimes wish on a star and seem to get lucky. I think it depends on how you veiw the world.

    ...I think there's a difference between Religion and belief and even spirituality but... I think it goes beyond 'making yourself feel better' or 'having someone listen'... I actually believe it's turned into some kind of positive force in itself, created by man! - If that makes sense? :o:D
  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    LOL do you mean 'agnostics'? :o

    yes I did....thanks for letting me know...that's what happens when you are trying fix your computer for 2 days...I had "diagnostics" on the brain. :o
    These cuts are leaving creases. Trace the scars to fit the pieces, to tell the story, you don't need to say a word.
  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    MattCameronKicksButt wrote:
    I agree. I think God is within yourself. It's a great thing... I never pray, I'm not that kind of spiritual person but I sometimes wish on a star and seem to get lucky. I think it depends on how you veiw the world.

    ...I think there's a difference between Religion and belief and even spirituality but... I think it goes beyond 'making yourself feel better' or 'having someone listen'... I actually believe it's turned into some kind of positive force in itself, created by man! - If that makes sense? :o:D

    That makes sense :). I don't want to say Im religious..I think Im more spiritual..but I do pray catholic prayers..so I dunno. But sometimes I just do my own thing.
    These cuts are leaving creases. Trace the scars to fit the pieces, to tell the story, you don't need to say a word.
  • electronblueelectronblue WPB Florida Posts: 3,460
    i use to pray alot when i was a little kid...~
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    the bad feelings 
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  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    eddie's Tone rocks wrote:
    i use to pray alot when i was a little kid...~
    Yeah, it must be 10 years since I last engaged in private prayer. I used to bow my head at school but that was just to avoid catching a load of shit from teachers, and I even stopped doing THAT when I was old enough to realise if I didn't MEAN it, it meant fuck all and there was no reason for me to be bowing my head to a prayer said by someone who says nothing to me about my life and has no influence on the future bearing of it about a concept that made no sense to me.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • AllieAllie Posts: 2,908
    libragirl wrote:
    Does anyone here pray? I'm not really religious in the sense that I go to church, I don't really like organized religion. I was raised catholic..so I still have the lil catholic girl in me somewhat.

    I just feel when there is so much crap going on and I tried all the fast fixes, prayer just helps me. I haven't done it in a while but I have been dealing with some bad stuff and I think it's time again.
    I pray daily. Twice a day.
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  • tachepiranhatachepiranha Posts: 399
    Collin wrote:
    I'm not religious and I don't pray. I used to pray, though. Never really helped me that much.

    I used to do the same...but i guess God is to busy trying to ignore me :o That's why i don't do it often
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  • patrickredeyespatrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
    libragirl wrote:
    Does anyone here pray? I'm not really religious in the sense that I go to church, I don't really like organized religion. I was raised catholic..so I still have the lil catholic girl in me somewhat.

    I just feel when there is so much crap going on and I tried all the fast fixes, prayer just helps me. I haven't done it in a while but I have been dealing with some bad stuff and I think it's time again.


    I've been doing alot of praying lately.
  • justamjustam Posts: 21,412
    libragirl wrote:
    Does anyone here pray? I'm not really religious in the sense that I go to church, I don't really like organized religion. I was raised catholic..so I still have the lil catholic girl in me somewhat.

    I just feel when there is so much crap going on and I tried all the fast fixes, prayer just helps me. I haven't done it in a while but I have been dealing with some bad stuff and I think it's time again.

    I think prayer can help if you feel it will help.

    When I was younger I had job as a musician in a Southern Methodist church and during the service the congregation used to pray as a group about things that people were concerned about. I felt that it was beautiful in some ways.

    For example, it helped to have a group of people thinking of the same concern all together, and, it helps the person who needs the support feel less alone, and, I think sometimes individuals get ideas out of the blue from prayer. (Like the gift of a thought from somewhere else.)

    At least, occasionally, I did. :)
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  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    justam wrote:
    I think prayer can help if you feel it will help.

    When I was younger I had job as a musician in a Southern Methodist church and during the service the congregation used to pray as a group about things that people were concerned about. I felt that it was beautiful in some ways.

    For example, it helped to have a group of people thinking of the same concern all together, and, it helps the person who needs the support feel less alone, and, I think sometimes individuals get ideas out of the blue from prayer. (Like the gift of a thought from somewhere else.)

    At least, occasionally, I did. :)

    That is nice.
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  • libragirllibragirl Posts: 4,632
    patrickredeyes wrote:
    I've been doing alot of praying lately.

    Do you think it's helping?
    These cuts are leaving creases. Trace the scars to fit the pieces, to tell the story, you don't need to say a word.
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