If you actaully think that was a good call, just know it has not been called since. One of the worst calls in NFL history. If they don't get that call, they may have never even been a "dynasty*".
It hasn't been called since because the rule was altered after that season. But under the rules in Jan 2002, the proper call was made.
And it has been called since, I've seen it. The rule has just been amended so it must be more of a true throwing motion now.
i'm sure your opinion has nothing to do with the fact you are a st. joe's fan.
eagles can afford it. it's his bonus for being the best wide receiver on the team on top of his day job as running back.
well yes of course I am tainted because I hate Nova but I do think it's shitty that he had an extra 3 million and didn't say anything for 3 months until the Eagles figured it out. And still hasn't paid it back. ah maybe now Nova will name something after him, or do they just do that for murderers?
If you actaully think that was a good call, just know it has not been called since. One of the worst calls in NFL history. If they don't get that call, they may have never even been a "dynasty*".
yes it has, I've seen it called a few times. The fact of the matter, it's the rule, plain and a simple. A technicality. Just like the video rule. A technicality. Accept it and move on. You really think the Pats are the only one? They got caught. You really think it's the reason they won 3 SB's?
"This guy back here is giving me the ole one more....one more back to you buddy."
yes it has, I've seen it called a few times. The fact of the matter, it's the rule, plain and a simple. A technicality. Just like the video rule. A technicality. Accept it and move on. You really think the Pats are the only one? They got caught. You really think it's the reason they won 3 SB's?
you Pats fans are unbelievable. It's not a freakin technicality and not everyone does it. The league sent a memo to EVERY fucking team just a week before the season saying don't do it - and that arrogant prick Bellicheck did it anyway. And then he gives a half-ass apology basically saying he misinterpreted the rule. How the fuck do you misinterpret a rule that say you can't use a camera to tape other teams calls. What a scumbag.
you Pats fans are unbelievable. It's not a freakin technicality and not everyone does it. The league sent a memo to EVERY fucking team just a week before the season saying don't do it - and that arrogant prick Bellicheck did it anyway. And then he gives a half-ass apology basically saying he misinterpreted the rule. How the fuck do you misinterpret a rule that say you can't use a camera to tape other teams calls. What a scumbag.
its not worth arguing anymore ,
THEY'RE WRONG PERIOD ,, he is an assclown ,,they got caught ,, the whole " dynasty " thing can be put to bed now
that being said i will bump this everyday ,,just to remind everyone
THEY'RE WRONG PERIOD ,, he is an assclown ,,they got caught ,, the whole " dynasty " thing can be put to bed now
that being said i will bump this everyday ,,just to remind everyone
If you don't I will, this is some funny shit.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
you Pats fans are unbelievable. It's not a freakin technicality and not everyone does it. The league sent a memo to EVERY fucking team just a week before the season saying don't do it - and that arrogant prick Bellicheck did it anyway. And then he gives a half-ass apology basically saying he misinterpreted the rule. How the fuck do you misinterpret a rule that say you can't use a camera to tape other teams calls. What a scumbag.
yes it is a technicality. it's comparable to losing a coach who was negotiated with while under contract with another team, that cost a 1st round draft pick. it's essentially the same penalty.
the severity of the penalty is based on the punishment - essentially a first round pick - a clear indication that there is no real proof that any video had anything to do with an outcome of the game.
"This guy back here is giving me the ole one more....one more back to you buddy."
that being said i will bump this everyday ,,just to remind everyone
because you have no life.
if all the pats fans stopped posting and completely, 100% ignored you i bet you would still bump this thread everyday, right? you would probably quote your own posts and have a thread conversation with yourself.
If you actaully think that was a good call, just know it has not been called since. One of the worst calls in NFL history. If they don't get that call, they may have never even been a "dynasty*".
and if bush doesnt take office, 9/11 may have not happened.
yes it is a technicality. it's comparable to losing a coach who was negotiated with while under contract with another team, that cost a 1st round draft pick. it's essentially the same penalty.
the severity of the penalty is based on the punishment - essentially a first round pick - a clear indication that there is no real proof that any video had anything to do with an outcome of the game.
that honestly makes sense. i'm done with this thread. i've stated my side. i'm a pats fan, i'll stand by my team. they acknowledge wrong-doing (CHEATING if you will), were fined and will be the first team in the history of the nfl to lose a first round draft pick.
see you in the playoffs, er, super bowl, er disneyworld.
you Pats fans are unbelievable. It's not a freakin technicality and not everyone does it. The league sent a memo to EVERY fucking team just a week before the season saying don't do it - and that arrogant prick Bellicheck did it anyway. And then he gives a half-ass apology basically saying he misinterpreted the rule. How the fuck do you misinterpret a rule that say you can't use a camera to tape other teams calls. What a scumbag.
its sad the rest of the country cant be as great as New england.
Oh one more thing LT said something like "if ya ain't cheatin, you aint tryin" did he give that speech to Lights out Merriman when he was cheating with HGH/Steriods ?
oh he's a teamate? got it. LT is so amusing
i also ponder if the the jets players have given up on Mangenuis because the african american code is stop snitching right?
It hasn't been called since because the rule was altered after that season. But under the rules in Jan 2002, the proper call was made.
And it has been called since, I've seen it. The rule has just been amended so it must be more of a true throwing motion now.
Horrible call...it was a fumble. I have seen that call go the other way a hundred times, but rarely is that call used. He was clearly pulling the ball back into his body. I had read on SI.com that it had not been called since. I have the Sunday Ticket and watch quite a bit of football and have not seen it, but I guess to say it has not been called since with out proof is wrong.
Horrible call...it was a fumble. I have seen that call go the other way a hundred times, but rarely is that call used. He was clearly pulling the ball back into his body. I had read on SI.com that it had not been called since. I have the Sunday Ticket and watch quite a bit of football and have not seen it, but I guess to say it has not been called since with out proof is wrong.
Yes you're right it was a fumble and ref's got the call wrong. The league wanted to get the Patriots to the SuperBowl then it was set up for the Patriots to win the Super Bowl. Oh the conspiracy was set in place from the git go.
That's the sort of thing Conspiracy Theorists love like me.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Oh one more thing LT said something like "if ya ain't cheatin, you aint tryin" did he give that speech to Lights out Merriman when he was cheating with HGH/Steriods ?
oh he's a teamate? got it. LT is so amusing
i also ponder if the the jets players have given up on Mangenuis because the african american code is stop snitching right?
yes i said this yesterday... wish i was going sunday... i'd bring LDT a nice sign... that would be confiscated
and i agree... didn't Man-judas see that film Carmelo Anthony made?
Yes you're right it was a fumble and ref's got the call wrong. The league wanted to get the Patriots to the SuperBowl then it was set up for the Patriots to win the Super Bowl. Oh the conspiracy was set in place from the git go.
That's the sort of thing Conspiracy Theorists love like me.
del rio has already saids its been happening all over the league.
so
the motivation for the pats players now is 02-03 level
ya know Coaching god Bill is saying to his players the chargers think we cheat we cant win straight up slight.
tough talk? All I am doing is expressing my opinion. I didn't threaten anyone. How is that tough talk? I think most fans outside of Pats fans feel the same as I do on this issue. I'm sorry but defying the NFL memo from the week before then saying it was a mis-interpretation of the rule is just arrogant.
if all the pats fans stopped posting and completely, 100% ignored you i bet you would still bump this thread everyday, right? you would probably quote your own posts and have a thread conversation with yourself.
The thing that I think is a joke is that just two weeks ago, Cowboys QB Coach Wade Wilson was caught with HGH. He was using it on himself to treat impotence. Goodell suspended him for 5 games and fined him $100,000, that's 33.3% of his salary. Goodell said that "coaches should be held to a higher standard".
I'm sorry, but that is some serious disparity right there. Wilson taking a banned substance for personal reasons has no bearing on the outcome of any game whatsoever and he gets hit that hard by Goodell. The Patriots admit to cheating and doing something that can affect the outcome of the game and all Belichek gets is a fine that is 12.5% of his salary and the loss of a draft pick.
What happened to holding coaches to a higher standard??? He should have lost multiple picks and been suspended for at least 6 games.
The thing that I think is a joke is that just two weeks ago, Cowboys QB Coach Wade Wilson was caught with HGH. He was using it on himself to treat impotence. Goodell suspended him for 5 games and fined him $100,000, that's 33.3% of his salary. Goodell said that "coaches should be held to a higher standard".
I'm sorry, but that is some serious disparity right there. Wilson taking a banned substance for personal reasons has no bearing on the outcome of any game whatsoever and he gets hit that hard by Goodell. The Patriots admit to cheating and doing something that can affect the outcome of the game and all Belichek gets is a fine that is 12.5% of his salary and the loss of a draft pick.
What happened to holding coaches to a higher standard??? He should have lost multiple picks and been suspended for at least 6 games.
Goodell owes Wade Wilson an apology.
he should have been suspended for 2 years....
and forced to watch the cincy DVD twice a day...........hehehehe
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
spoken from a fan who's teams get repeatedly housed by the pats.
You're right. My teams do get housed by the Pats. My favorite team is the Dolphins and obviously New England has had a lot of success against them over the last few years. that's why it was so annoying to see that Belichick would cheat. before this week, I always had a lot of respect for him and the Pats. mainly, it was the manner in which they won many of their games. it wasn't always pretty. I've seen Brady throw for less than 100 yards twice against Miami and win both games. this sort of thing always impressed me. They could win a tough defensive game like that or they could win a shoot out with the Bengals.
but now? god, they got CAUGHT cheating against the Jets.....a meaningless week 1 game they won handily. but for all we know they could have been cheating in every game they played over the past few years. they won each Superbowl by 3 points (something that I used to admire about their wins....good ole Pats, finding a way to win). games that close could be swung by one play. I dunno. A lot of the Patriot haters are happy that this has happened but I think I'd have been better off never knowing....and thinking that it was always a totally level playing field. many times I screamed at the TV yelling about how much the Dolphins suck after Brady hits his hot route for a touchdown. did they score the touchdown because Brady is awesome? yes. did they score it because they knew what defense the Dolphins would be in? maybe.
Horrible call...it was a fumble. I have seen that call go the other way a hundred times, but rarely is that call used. He was clearly pulling the ball back into his body. I had read on SI.com that it had not been called since. I have the Sunday Ticket and watch quite a bit of football and have not seen it, but I guess to say it has not been called since with out proof is wrong.
You know what never gets brought up when people talk about that Raiders v Pats game and the tuck call? The fact that the Raiders should have been flagged for a 15 yard personal foul on the play for Woodson hitting the QB in the head. Go watch it, you'll see it. It should not have been a fumble, as the tuck rule is crap, but should have been 15 yards and a first down too. Woulda coulda shoulda...
Oh yeah, I do not like the Pats, so do not try and put me on their bandwagon...
Go Steelers!
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And it has been called since, I've seen it. The rule has just been amended so it must be more of a true throwing motion now.
well yes of course I am tainted because I hate Nova but I do think it's shitty that he had an extra 3 million and didn't say anything for 3 months until the Eagles figured it out. And still hasn't paid it back. ah maybe now Nova will name something after him, or do they just do that for murderers?
yes it has, I've seen it called a few times. The fact of the matter, it's the rule, plain and a simple. A technicality. Just like the video rule. A technicality. Accept it and move on. You really think the Pats are the only one? They got caught. You really think it's the reason they won 3 SB's?
- Mr. Edward Vedder 7/11/03
you Pats fans are unbelievable. It's not a freakin technicality and not everyone does it. The league sent a memo to EVERY fucking team just a week before the season saying don't do it - and that arrogant prick Bellicheck did it anyway. And then he gives a half-ass apology basically saying he misinterpreted the rule. How the fuck do you misinterpret a rule that say you can't use a camera to tape other teams calls. What a scumbag.
its not worth arguing anymore ,
THEY'RE WRONG PERIOD ,, he is an assclown ,,they got caught ,, the whole " dynasty " thing can be put to bed now
that being said i will bump this everyday ,,just to remind everyone
You enjoy given'er to the peeps in Boston eh.
Toronto 2011 night 2
Hamilton 2011
London 2013
yea,, ya might say im not a fan
If you don't I will, this is some funny shit.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
yes it is a technicality. it's comparable to losing a coach who was negotiated with while under contract with another team, that cost a 1st round draft pick. it's essentially the same penalty.
the severity of the penalty is based on the punishment - essentially a first round pick - a clear indication that there is no real proof that any video had anything to do with an outcome of the game.
- Mr. Edward Vedder 7/11/03
because you have no life.
if all the pats fans stopped posting and completely, 100% ignored you i bet you would still bump this thread everyday, right? you would probably quote your own posts and have a thread conversation with yourself.
so 'ifs' are everywhere!
that honestly makes sense. i'm done with this thread. i've stated my side. i'm a pats fan, i'll stand by my team. they acknowledge wrong-doing (CHEATING if you will), were fined and will be the first team in the history of the nfl to lose a first round draft pick.
see you in the playoffs, er, super bowl, er disneyworld.
N E way
del rio has already saids its been happening all over the league.
so
the motivation for the pats players now is 02-03 level
ya know Coaching god Bill is saying to his players the chargers think we cheat we cant win straight up slight.
ya know it is a dynasty right?
they didnt get anything taken away
01 Check
03 Check
04 Check
sorry hater:)
im sorry if your mind cant handle the injustice, i think its sad at this point in your life that you dont know that life isnt fair.
feel free to talk about the dems now, its your clown shoes routine
not crying on a message board
i'm done too
cant wait for the fourth non asterisked ring
its sad the rest of the country cant be as great as New england.
Oh one more thing LT said something like "if ya ain't cheatin, you aint tryin" did he give that speech to Lights out Merriman when he was cheating with HGH/Steriods ?
oh he's a teamate? got it. LT is so amusing
i also ponder if the the jets players have given up on Mangenuis because the african american code is stop snitching right?
I said it could have been different if they do not get that call....who knows?
10-4-96 \ 5-6-10
9-6-98 \ 5-7-10
4-19-03 \ 9-22-12
10-6-04 \ 7-19-13
6-24-06 \ 12-6-13
10-1-14 \ 4-16-16
\ 4-26-16 \
Horrible call...it was a fumble. I have seen that call go the other way a hundred times, but rarely is that call used. He was clearly pulling the ball back into his body. I had read on SI.com that it had not been called since. I have the Sunday Ticket and watch quite a bit of football and have not seen it, but I guess to say it has not been called since with out proof is wrong.
10-4-96 \ 5-6-10
9-6-98 \ 5-7-10
4-19-03 \ 9-22-12
10-6-04 \ 7-19-13
6-24-06 \ 12-6-13
10-1-14 \ 4-16-16
\ 4-26-16 \
Yes you're right it was a fumble and ref's got the call wrong. The league wanted to get the Patriots to the SuperBowl then it was set up for the Patriots to win the Super Bowl. Oh the conspiracy was set in place from the git go.
That's the sort of thing Conspiracy Theorists love like me.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
yes i said this yesterday... wish i was going sunday... i'd bring LDT a nice sign... that would be confiscated
and i agree... didn't Man-judas see that film Carmelo Anthony made?
Mo Lewis was working for Salami Bin Laden too
tough talk? All I am doing is expressing my opinion. I didn't threaten anyone. How is that tough talk? I think most fans outside of Pats fans feel the same as I do on this issue. I'm sorry but defying the NFL memo from the week before then saying it was a mis-interpretation of the rule is just arrogant.
YUP ,,
I'm sorry, but that is some serious disparity right there. Wilson taking a banned substance for personal reasons has no bearing on the outcome of any game whatsoever and he gets hit that hard by Goodell. The Patriots admit to cheating and doing something that can affect the outcome of the game and all Belichek gets is a fine that is 12.5% of his salary and the loss of a draft pick.
What happened to holding coaches to a higher standard??? He should have lost multiple picks and been suspended for at least 6 games.
Goodell owes Wade Wilson an apology.
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and forced to watch the cincy DVD twice a day...........hehehehe
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
OK VEDDER
i think your're hillary clinton in drag
You're right. My teams do get housed by the Pats. My favorite team is the Dolphins and obviously New England has had a lot of success against them over the last few years. that's why it was so annoying to see that Belichick would cheat. before this week, I always had a lot of respect for him and the Pats. mainly, it was the manner in which they won many of their games. it wasn't always pretty. I've seen Brady throw for less than 100 yards twice against Miami and win both games. this sort of thing always impressed me. They could win a tough defensive game like that or they could win a shoot out with the Bengals.
but now? god, they got CAUGHT cheating against the Jets.....a meaningless week 1 game they won handily. but for all we know they could have been cheating in every game they played over the past few years. they won each Superbowl by 3 points (something that I used to admire about their wins....good ole Pats, finding a way to win). games that close could be swung by one play. I dunno. A lot of the Patriot haters are happy that this has happened but I think I'd have been better off never knowing....and thinking that it was always a totally level playing field. many times I screamed at the TV yelling about how much the Dolphins suck after Brady hits his hot route for a touchdown. did they score the touchdown because Brady is awesome? yes. did they score it because they knew what defense the Dolphins would be in? maybe.
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You know what never gets brought up when people talk about that Raiders v Pats game and the tuck call? The fact that the Raiders should have been flagged for a 15 yard personal foul on the play for Woodson hitting the QB in the head. Go watch it, you'll see it. It should not have been a fumble, as the tuck rule is crap, but should have been 15 yards and a first down too. Woulda coulda shoulda...
Oh yeah, I do not like the Pats, so do not try and put me on their bandwagon...
Go Steelers!