This is an AMERICAN issue.

Grand Paw LennyGrand Paw Lenny Posts: 1
edited September 2008 in A Moving Train
I admit that I'm one of the people who believes that the Press should be giving Sarah Palin a hard time. I believe that the press should put aside its pleasantly deferential role as the Republican National Committee's transcription service and start probing Sarah Palin as a politician, as an administrator, and as a decision-maker.

It's not just because I'm a partisan Democrat. I do admit that I am, but I read history. I know that guys like William Henry Harrison, James Garfield, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and John F. Kennedy can unexpectedly cash in their chips while still on the job. I'm also aware that both Gerald R. Ford and Ronald Reagan came fairly close to buying it and might have done so if their would-be assasins had better aim or some bystander's reflexes had been a little slow.

If John McCain is elected President this November, there is at least a fair chance that Sarah Palin could end up finishing out his presidential term if McCain has a stroke, a heart attack, a brain aneurysm, or some other health calamity.

McCainiacs and other Republicans should ask themselves if Sarah Palin is indeed fit to become President if something should happen to John McCain and if she is fit to do the job. Part of the vetting process is scrutiny by a neutral and occasionally downright hostile or sensation-hungry press.

This is not a liberal issue. This is not a Democratic issue. This is not a Republican issue. This is an AMERICAN issue.

ROCK THE VOTE!

Pawpaw Lenny
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  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    I don't think the media is liberal. I think they're gutless.

    Think about it,

    Obama received some negative press and there began to be hints that the media was racist in its' criticism, and when they hear that they're racist they do a complete 180.
    Clinton complains that Obama's receiving better press coverage than her, and suddenly WHAM, every press story about Clinton is positive and Obama is negative.
    Now, they're criticizing and questioning Palin and her qualifications, and they're accused of being sexist and WHAM, suddenly every story is about how wonderful and awesome she is.

    The media doesn't need to be more conservative. The media needs to, pardon me, grow a set of balls already. THIS is the media that investigated and took down a corrupt president? When will these people do their jobs?
  • digster wrote:
    I don't think the media is liberal. I think they're gutless.

    Think about it,

    Obama received some negative press and there began to be hints that the media was racist in its' criticism, and when they hear that they're racist they do a complete 180.
    Clinton complains that Obama's receiving better press coverage than her, and suddenly WHAM, every press story about Clinton is positive and Obama is negative.
    Now, they're criticizing and questioning Palin and her qualifications, and they're accused of being sexist and WHAM, suddenly every story is about how wonderful and awesome she is.

    The media doesn't need to be more conservative. The media needs to, pardon me, grow a set of balls already. THIS is the media that investigated and took down a corrupt president? When will these people do their jobs?


    When did Obama get bad press and Hilary get good press?
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    When did Obama get bad press and Hilary get good press?

    Right after she accused the media of having their lips firmly planted on Obama's ass in one of the debates. It was one of the debates they had only on their own; I think it was the one before the Hollywood debate.
  • I admit that I'm one of the people who believes that the Press should be giving Sarah Palin a hard time. I believe that the press should put aside its pleasantly deferential role as the Republican National Committee's transcription service and start probing Sarah Palin as a politician, as an administrator, and as a decision-maker.

    It's not just because I'm a partisan Democrat. I do admit that I am, but I read history. I know that guys like William Henry Harrison, James Garfield, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and John F. Kennedy can unexpectedly cash in their chips while still on the job. I'm also aware that both Gerald R. Ford and Ronald Reagan came fairly close to buying it and might have done so if their would-be assasins had better aim or some bystander's reflexes had been a little slow.

    If John McCain is elected President this November, there is at least a fair chance that Sarah Palin could end up finishing out his presidential term if McCain has a stroke, a heart attack, a brain aneurysm, or some other health calamity.

    McCainiacs and other Republicans should ask themselves if Sarah Palin is indeed fit to become President if something should happen to John McCain and if she is fit to do the job. Part of the vetting process is scrutiny by a neutral and occasionally downright hostile or sensation-hungry press.

    This is not a liberal issue. This is not a Democratic issue. This is not a Republican issue. This is an AMERICAN issue.

    ROCK THE VOTE!

    Pawpaw Lenny
    give her a hard time all day on the issues, but dont sink to personal bullshit like who she slept with and her pregnant daughter.
  • catch22catch22 Posts: 1,081
    MrSmith wrote:
    give her a hard time all day on the issues, but dont sink to personal bullshit like who she slept with and her pregnant daughter.

    there's plenty of ammo on the issues.. that woman is terrifying. she's like pat robertson in a prettier package for the voters.
    and like that... he's gone.
  • 88keys88keys Posts: 151
    If John McCain is elected President this November, there is at least a fair chance that Sarah Palin could end up finishing out his presidential term if McCain has a stroke, a heart attack, a brain aneurysm, or some other health calamity.

    McCainiacs and other Republicans should ask themselves if Sarah Palin is indeed fit to become President if something should happen to John McCain and if she is fit to do the job. Part of the vetting process is scrutiny by a neutral and occasionally downright hostile or sensation-hungry press.

    I agree with this... she should've been vetted more thuroughly and there is a good chance that she'll be finishing out one of McCain's would-be terms. But if this is a major concern, then you have to point that finger in Obama's direction too. Weather or not Palin has as much experience or more than Obama is a highly debatable issue. But the fact remains that Obama is inexperienced. If he wins the election he WILL BE the president, and there is just as good of a chance that he will finish a full term as an inexperienced president as there is a chance that McCain will die in office. Why does Obama get a pass on this and Palin doesn't? I understand that one of McCain's biggest campaigning points is his vast experience compared to Barack's, and by choosing Palin he seriously weakened that argument so much that he probably won't even bring it up nearly as much anymore (and shouldn't). But if Obama's supporters are so concerned that Palin would be "one heartbeat from the presidency"; isn't that just hypocritical?
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  • would you rather have Palin or McCain as the prez if you had to pick? I'd take Palin, as lack of experience is a bonus to me.

    same for Obama, though i fear he has already fallen to the dark side.
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    88keys wrote:
    I agree with this... she should've been vetted more thuroughly and there is a good chance that she'll be finishing out one of McCain's would-be terms. But if this is a major concern, then you have to point that finger in Obama's direction too. Weather or not Palin has as much experience or more than Obama is a highly debatable issue. But the fact remains that Obama is inexperienced. If he wins the election he WILL BE the president, and there is just as good of a chance that he will finish a full term as an inexperienced president as there is a chance that McCain will die in office. Why does Obama get a pass on this and Palin doesn't? I understand that one of McCain's biggest campaigning points is his vast experience compared to Barack's, and by choosing Palin he seriously weakened that argument so much that he probably won't even bring it up nearly as much anymore (and shouldn't). But if Obama's supporters are so concerned that Palin would be "one heartbeat from the presidency"; isn't that just hypocritical?

    My thoughts on all this is that I can't say for sure that Palin is fit to be President; after all, you're right that I'm supporting a candidate without the typical Washington experience. But I disagree on a few points; one, that Obama gets a pass and Palin doesn't. In the media at least, if there is a criticism made about Obama, whether from a Republican analyst or any commentator, it usually has to do with the lack of experience he has. And if you watched the Republican Convention, you sure heard an awful lot about it.

    But you hit the nail on the head; the problem isn't Palin, it's McCain. McCain set a high standard for his potential VP earlier this year; he said the VP pick would have "extensive credentials" to be VP. Would anyone argue that Palin has "extensive credentials"? Remember, McCain's main attack on Obama has been that he is unfit to lead due to his lack of experience. Now, McCain has endorsed Sarah Palin to be capable of the presidency; someone with as much experience as Obama, if not less! Something here just doesn't add up. It either shows bad judgment on McCain's part, or an overly political choice of VP. Personally, I think McCain knew he was unpopular with the social conservative base of the party, and decided to go with a far-right VP to rope those people in. Smart politics, but in doing so, McCain violated his own standards of the qualifications his VP would have, the standards he had set far earlier.

    The argument I've been hearing from Republicans is that she's No. 2 on the ticket, and Obama's No. 1. Fair enough, but remember, Obama won a nomination process. Critics may think he is inexperienced, but like him or not millions of Democratic voters deemed him able to take on the job of President. There was only one real voter in the Palin decision; John McCain. Nobody endorsed her as being ready to be President except him, and I'm questioning what that says about McCain's decision-making.
  • 88keys88keys Posts: 151
    digster wrote:
    My thoughts on all this is that I can't say for sure that Palin is fit to be President; after all, you're right that I'm supporting a candidate without the typical Washington experience. But I disagree on a few points; one, that Obama gets a pass and Palin doesn't. In the media at least, if there is a criticism made about Obama, whether from a Republican analyst or any commentator, it usually has to do with the lack of experience he has. And if you watched the Republican Convention, you sure heard an awful lot about it.

    But you hit the nail on the head; the problem isn't Palin, it's McCain. McCain set a high standard for his potential VP earlier this year; he said the VP pick would have "extensive credentials" to be VP. Would anyone argue that Palin has "extensive credentials"? Remember, McCain's main attack on Obama has been that he is unfit to lead due to his lack of experience. Now, McCain has endorsed Sarah Palin to be capable of the presidency; someone with as much experience as Obama, if not less! Something here just doesn't add up. It either shows bad judgment on McCain's part, or an overly political choice of VP. Personally, I think McCain knew he was unpopular with the social conservative base of the party, and decided to go with a far-right VP to rope those people in. Smart politics, but in doing so, McCain violated his own standards of the qualifications his VP would have, the standards he had set far earlier.

    The argument I've been hearing from Republicans is that she's No. 2 on the ticket, and Obama's No. 1. Fair enough, but remember, Obama won a nomination process. Critics may think he is inexperienced, but like him or not millions of Democratic voters deemed him able to take on the job of President. There was only one real voter in the Palin decision; John McCain. Nobody endorsed her as being ready to be President except him, and I'm questioning what that says about McCain's decision-making.

    The GOP's did slam Obama and his inexperience at the convention, but it was not McCain doing it this time. It was Guiliani, Thompson, Leiberman, Romney, Huckabee, and even Palin herself. But McCain stayed away from it in his speech. It seems to me that McCain is now going to shift his campaign to the issues instead of pointing out Obama's inexperience... he'll leave that to Fox News and the other republicans not running. Also, I really don't think McCain wanted Palin as his running mate... I think he wanted to pick Leiberman (which would've been a colossal mistake in my opinion). But his advisors and the rest of the conservative right wanted Palin, and McCain needs their support. By picking Leiberman or a another less than conservative republican (like Tom Ridge) would have divided the party. I don't think he could've afforded that.
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  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    88keys wrote:
    Also, I really don't think McCain wanted Palin as his running mate... I think he wanted to pick Leiberman (which would've been a colossal mistake in my opinion). But his advisors and the rest of the conservative right wanted Palin, and McCain needs their support. By picking Leiberman or a another less than conservative republican (like Tom Ridge) would have divided the party. I don't think he could've afforded that.

    Maybe...I don't know if it was a smart choice in appealing to independents and moderates; I mean, Palin leans far, FAR to the right on most issues, and it remains to be seen if appealing to the base will be enough to win the election this time. It was in 2000 and 2004, but I don't know. Alot of people are really pissed with Bush (to state the obvious).
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646

    If John McCain is elected President this November, there is at least a fair chance that Sarah Palin could end up finishing out his presidential term if McCain has a stroke, a heart attack, a brain aneurysm, or some other health calamity.


    thing is, in this day and age of American Idol and that kinda shit... you guys would have the Worlds Hottest President.. and i think that pleases kids more than the issues.

    she's a Creationist and yet she's photographed sitting next to her shooting kill.... gods creatures i believe... which she hunts for fun.... :confused: how does that work?

    ok, i'm not the only one hoping that there is a secret sex tape of hers out there :D
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • DixieNDixieN Posts: 351
    I believe that it is the press's job to give all politicians a hard time--catch them out.
  • dunkman wrote:
    ok, i'm not the only one hoping that there is a secret sex tape of hers out there :D
    i'll vote for her if she releases one/
  • EnkiduEnkidu So Cal Posts: 2,996
    I want to know how she feels about the issues. I want her to answer questions, like the questions Obama, McCain, and Biden are answering. I don't think she's experienced enough, is she going to prove me wrong?

    (And if she wants no questions about her personal life, she shouldn't have trotted out her pregnant daughter and the baby daddy at the convention.)
  • One thing I don't get... The democrats are staying away from Palin's daughter, but the republicians are using it to further their point... I don't think thats fair.
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