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spyguyspyguy Posts: 613
edited September 2008 in A Moving Train
Sec Rice gets constantly bashed around here for doing nothing.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080905/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_libya_rice

TRIPOLI, Libya - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Friday that her historic visit to former pariah state Libya proves that the U.S. never writes off another nation forever.

Rice is the highest-ranking American official to visit the North African country in more than a half-century. She will meet over dinner with mercurial leader Moammar Gadhafi, whom President Reagan once called a "mad dog" and other U.S. leaders have called a terrorist.

"There is a long way to go but I do believe that this demonstrates that the United States doesn't have permanent enemies," Rice said as she flew to the capital. She said she had not expected she would ever go to Libya.
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    She'll fuck that up, too.

    Afterall, she's had great success in extending olive branches and building bridges.

    She, we, may have been better off if she simply invested in Olive Oil production and dynamite.
  • spyguyspyguy Posts: 613
    NMyTree wrote:
    She'll fuck that up, too.

    Afterall, she's had great success in extending olive branches and building bridges.

    She, we, may have been better off if she simply invested in Olive Oil production and dynamite.

    so basically she sucks for traveling to a country that was a sworn enemy.

    and would suck if she didnt go and furthered the hate and divide.

    got it
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    spyguy wrote:
    so basically she sucks for traveling to a country that was a sworn enemy.

    and would suck if she didnt go and furthered the hate and divide.

    got it
    She sucks because of what she did to our country.
  • spyguyspyguy Posts: 613
    Nevermind wrote:
    She sucks because of what she did to our country.

    ok. how bout what shes doing today in Libya?
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    'hey, Israel, seriously, we really need you to stop with the checkpoints and the settlements so we can look for peace.'

    'stfu, rice, we do what we want.'

    'k'

    yeah, she's reeeeal helpful.
  • spyguyspyguy Posts: 613
    _outlaw wrote:
    'hey, Israel, seriously, we really need you to stop with the checkpoints and the settlements so we can look for peace.'

    'stfu, rice, we do what we want.'

    'k'

    yeah, she's reeeeal helpful.

    did you know there are other countries and people in this world besides Israel and Palastine?
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    spyguy wrote:
    did you know there are other countries and people in this world besides Israel and Palastine?
    ok, when you find a real argument to make, get back to me.
  • spyguyspyguy Posts: 613
    _outlaw wrote:
    ok, when you find a real argument to make, get back to me.

    a real argument? you somehow managed to bring up Israel in yet another thread that has nothing to do with it.

    so when you want to make a real argument based on the material in question, please get back to me.

    otherwise go play in the 9000 Israel threads u started.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    I'm not up to date on Libya. I know Gadahfi is not running around in the same terrorist circles he used to but what are human rights and civil liberties like in Libya?
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  • sweetpotatosweetpotato Posts: 1,278
    condi, as i prefer to call her, IS useless except when it comes to towing the party line and pissing people off. then she's a real team player, hugely effective.
    "Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."

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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    spyguy wrote:
    a real argument? you somehow managed to bring up Israel in yet another thread that has nothing to do with it.
    actually, you mentioned Condi Rice 'accomplishing' things, including trying to find 'peace' between Israel and Palestine, and I responded.

    the only response you came up with wasn't even a valid point.
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    spyguy wrote:
    ok. how bout what shes doing today in Libya?

    Covering her ass, or maybe if it wasn't Rice the messenger, I wonder who the high ranking official was that negotiated with Gaddaffi in 2003 for securing secret prison site for the CIA.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/article608386.ece?token=null&offset=0&page=1

    From The Sunday Times

    October 22, 2006

    Our dirty little torture secret

    Officially, Britain disapproves of rendition, the CIA’s shadowy capture and transport of terror suspects. In reality we have helped, writes Stephen Grey

    ... The flight logs showed the insertion by the CIA in November 2001 of undercover teams to Afghanistan. They showed flights in 2003 to Libya, joined by Britain’s MI6, to negotiate with Colonel Gadaffi. But above all they showed renditions — flights from Morocco to Kabul that matched the exact description provided by prisoners such as Binyam Mohamed, a young Ethiopian brought up in Golborne Road, west London, and educated at Paddington Green College. ...
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    spyguy wrote:
    ok. how bout what shes doing today in Libya?
    Its not enough. If she wants redemption (which I highly doubt) she should kill herself.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    spyguy wrote:
    so basically she sucks for traveling to a country that was a sworn enemy.

    and would suck if she didnt go and furthered the hate and divide.

    got it

    No, you don't get it.

    My comments were directed at her past efforts and track record. Obviously not at this attempt, because it's not over yet, right Mavrick?

    But as my grandmother used to say.....

    If you're going to go over to your neighbor's house to try and make peace, with a big stick up your ass, a grudge on your shoulder and the attitude of a horse's ass; you may just as well stay home.
  • spyguyspyguy Posts: 613
    Nevermind wrote:
    Its not enough. If she wants redemption (which I highly doubt) she should kill herself.
    yikes. alrighty then
  • sweetpotatosweetpotato Posts: 1,278
    Nevermind wrote:
    Its not enough. If she wants redemption (which I highly doubt) she should kill herself.

    HA!! classic. i love it.
    "Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."

    "Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore

    "i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
    ~ed, 8/7
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    spyguy wrote:
    yikes. alrighty then
    She'll be hoping she did when shes in front of a war crimes tribunal.
  • spyguyspyguy Posts: 613
    Nevermind wrote:
    She'll be hoping she did when shes in front of a war crimes tribunal.

    no really its cool. I love wishing death upon people too
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Nevermind wrote:
    She'll be hoping she did when shes in front of a war crimes tribunal.

    You must live in some dream world if you think that anyone from this administration is going to have to answer for their actions.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • Vedderlution_BabyVedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    spyguy wrote:
    Sec Rice gets constantly bashed around here for doing nothing.



    When? I don't remember anyone (except maybe for me, and I don't even know if I mentioned her by name) saying anything about rice.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    spyguy wrote:
    Sec Rice gets constantly bashed around here for doing nothing.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080905/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_libya_rice

    TRIPOLI, Libya - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Friday that her historic visit to former pariah state Libya proves that the U.S. never writes off another nation forever.

    Rice is the highest-ranking American official to visit the North African country in more than a half-century. She will meet over dinner with mercurial leader Moammar Gadhafi, whom President Reagan once called a "mad dog" and other U.S. leaders have called a terrorist.

    "There is a long way to go but I do believe that this demonstrates that the United States doesn't have permanent enemies," Rice said as she flew to the capital. She said she had not expected she would ever go to Libya.
    ...
    While she was there, did she at least promote him from Colonel to General?
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  • pateljampateljam Posts: 340
    mammasan wrote:
    You must live in some dream world if you think that anyone from this administration is going to have to answer for their actions.

    Yeah you are right and that is what is sad!
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    She's a manipulative liar...plain and simple.

    a malicious, murderous liar...

    she spoke... hundreds of thousands died...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    ""This demonstrates the United States does not have permanent enemies," Rice said. "It demonstrates that if countries are prepared to make strategic changes in direction, the United State is prepared to respond."

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/05/AR2008090501149.html?hpid%3Dtopnews&sub=AR

    If only Hitler had managed to "make strategic changes in direction" he would have managed to get along with the Bush administration.
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    mammasan wrote:
    You must live in some dream world if you think that anyone from this administration is going to have to answer for their actions.
    The ones who are left after the next world war will be held accountable.
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    spyguy wrote:
    no really its cool. I love wishing death upon people too
    You can get the death penalty for murder so why cant we wish death on someone for 1 million dead Iraqis?
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    spyguy wrote:
    ok. how bout what shes doing today in Libya?
    ...
    How you you feel about this? Good? Bad?
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    and what is it shes doing exactly? libya ceased to be a problem many years ago. must be time to dig up old enemies to make a shitty administration look as if theyre doing something constructive. tis a bit like extending the olive branch to that grade school bully after youve both graduated from high school. no point. no point whatsoever.
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