Obama - Another AIPAC PUppet

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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    i almost forgot why i do not respond to driftings threads....


    now i remember why :)
  • Thecure
    Thecure Posts: 814
    Blackout-weaver wrote:
    Well, it of course goes without saying that anyone critical of the brutal and illegal Israeli occupation is an anti-Semitic, holocaust denier, right?

    and of course everyone who agrees with Isreal is just a fool. both sides do the same thing which is sad becuase we will never learn anything.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    When it comes to Israel/Palestine Obama = Hillary = McCain = AIPAC LOBBY CASH $$$ = institution vote

    progressive? not exactly....not at all..
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • SleepingWithTheOckus
    SleepingWithTheOckus Posts: 14
    ledvedderman wrote:
    This guy reeks of Drifting...

    Not enough capital letters.
    I was thinking Roland.
    :: looks up one, scratches head ::
    hmm...
    "I'm Gonna FUCK the Ockus!"
    - Michael S. McCready
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    SleepingWithTheOckus wrote:
    Not enough capital letters.
    I was thinking Roland.
    :: looks up one, scratches head ::
    hmm...

    Another sub 100 post regular. Lemme guess you've been lurking for years...

    lol...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Blackout-weaver
    Blackout-weaver Posts: 16
    Thecure wrote:
    and of course everyone who agrees with Isreal is just a fool. both sides do the same thing which is sad becuase we will never learn anything.

    So you agree with Israel and the occupation? Would you care to tell us why?

    And you say that both sides do the same thing? Really? So the Palestinians have destroyed 18,147 Israeli homes, and are occupying 121 illegal settlements on land stolen from Israel, and are currently in breach of over 60 U.N resolutions?

    Your statement is very interesting in that It contradicts all of the facts.
    http://www.ifamericansknew.org/index.html
  • Blackout-weaver
    Blackout-weaver Posts: 16
    my2hands wrote:
    i almost forgot why i do not respond to driftings threads....


    now i remember why :)

    I'm not Drifting, but I'm interested to know why you don't respond to these threads. Is it because your argument is so weak, and full of holes, that you often find yourself with nowhere to turn but to personal comments about the OP?
    I asked you to respond to the points raised in the articles I posted. You haven't been able to, therefore I take it that you really have no argument and nothing to bring to the table. You suggested that the 1948 war, the 1967 war, and the 1973 war are justification for Israels present crimes and the illegal occupation. That's all.

    I mean, seriously, if you defend the occupation and the human rights abuses that that entails, then you also support the murder, terrorising, home demolitions, subjugation, and imprisonment of an entire people.
    How can you defend that?
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Thecure wrote:
    and of course everyone who agrees with Isreal is just a fool. both sides do the same thing which is sad becuase we will never learn anything.


    That's a fallacy. It's not an equal equation. A lot of people think it is the same on both sides...but it isn't.

    Either was apartheid.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • Blackout-weaver
    Blackout-weaver Posts: 16
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    That's a fallacy. It's not an equal equation. A lot of people think it is the same on both sides...but it isn't.

    Either was apartheid.

    That's right. And neither was the French resistance, and other partisan groups in WW2. Neither was the FLN in Algeria, or the Irish struggle for independence against the English, e.t.c.
    The Palestinians have every right to defend themselves against the U.S sponsored occupation.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    my2hands wrote:
    i am ready for roland to show up and dismiss the holocaust as exaggerated

    Duh....parts of it were, it's been proven scientifically.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    my2hands wrote:
    um, he is right to an extent.


    yeah, i;m sure the fact that israel keeps violating UN resolutions and building illegal settlements while murdering more palestinians in a few days than israelis were killed in the past 5 years...has nothing to do w/ it

    do they still have that scientist locked up for life, the one they kidnapped from italy or somewhere so they could throw in prison, just for saying israel had a nuclear program?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    my2hands wrote:
    did you even watxh this video? you know, the one where the palestinian endorses Obama and has a whole sotre full of people chanting for obama?

    or did you just miss that part by accident? let me guess, you know the israel/arab conflict better then them :rolleyes:


    and some gay ppl support republicans, who cares?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way

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