The Truth About Hamas and Carter

GauchoBGauchoB Posts: 224
edited May 2008 in A Moving Train
Stop the presses: Hamas won't recognize Israel
An update on this story. "Hamas Leader Vows Not to Recognize Israel After Carter Trumpets Terror Group's Willingness to Be Good 'Neighbor'," from Fox News:

JERUSALEM — Just hours after former President Jimmy Carter trumpeted Hamas' agreement to let Israel "live as a neighbor," the same terrorist leader he met with face-to-face vowed not to recognize the Jewish state.
But Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal did offer Israel a 10-year truce if it withdraws from all lands it seized in the 1967 Arab-Israeli war.
Carter met twice with Mashaal over the weekend.
The former president also said Monday that he would never sit down with Al Qaeda because the terror network has no "redeeming features."
"[Al Qaeda] are not involved in any sort of a fruitful process. They are not recognized by their own people," Carter told FOX News in an interview Monday. "On the other hand, you have to remember Hamas in an honest and open and fair and transparent election were elected the leaders of the Palestinian government." [...]
When asked whether he'd ever meet with Al Qaeda, Carter replied, "No, of course not."
"I don't see any redeeming features of Al Qaeda at all," he said.

In all fairness this is the truth about what Carter accomplished. Nothing.
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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    GauchoB wrote:
    from Fox News:
    lol.

    also, do you mind giving a link?
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    lol.

    also, do you mind giving a link?

    Good job of you to bump this pointless thread.
    Anyway, now that you have, the only thing worthy of note here is Fox new's transparency. Who do they think they're fooling by mentioning Hamas and Al Queda in the same breath? Only a moron would fall for this nonsense.

    And as for 'recognizing' Israel, the subject is meaningless.

    So, I'm now at a loss to know what 'truth' the original poster had in mind. Maybe he can enlighten us?
  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    Byrnzie wrote:
    And as for 'recognizing' Israel, the subject is meaningless.

    why? (please dont cut and paste and bold some website) I'm asking you.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    why? (please dont cut and paste and bold some website) I'm asking you.

    I've already provided you with the reason why. I provided it in the other thread which you and your buddy hijacked.

    Here it is again...

    http://www.ifamericansknew.org/media/rte.html
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    why? (please dont cut and paste and bold some website) I'm asking you.

    p.s, You honestly think that I'm going to pay any attention whatsoever to your lame attempt to drag the Moving Train down to the level where nothing is supported by source material? You'd love this message pit to be reduced to an arena where unsubstantiated claims - whether they be half-truths or lies - are thrown around at will, and where nothing can be either supported or refuted by the facts.

    Well, you can take your 'please don't...' and shove it where it belongs - unless of course you'd like me to offer a 'please don't..' in return, in which case I'll ask you 'please don't make empty statements that have no basis in reality, and that have no relation to the facts, and then spend the rest of the time insulting people who don't agree with you'.
    There, how dya like that?
  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I've already provided you with the reason why. I provided it in the other thread which you and your buddy hijacked.

    Here it is again...

    http://www.ifamericansknew.org/media/rte.html

    sigh. do links do your thinking for you ? so fucking sad.
  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    Byrnzie wrote:
    p.s, You honestly think that I'm going to pay any attention whatsoever to your lame attempt to drag the Moving Train down to the level where nothing is supported by source material? You'd love this message pit to be reduced to an arena where unsubstantiated claims - whether they be half-truths or lies - are thrown around at will, and where nothing can be either supported or refuted by the facts.

    Well, you can take your 'please don't...' and shove it where it belongs - unless of course you'd like me to offer a 'please don't..' in return, in which case I'll ask you 'please don't make empty statements that have no basis in reality, and that have no relation to the facts, and then spend the rest of the time insulting people who don't agree with you'.
    There, how dya like that?

    all you do is insult people who stand up to you. then report those who disagree with you as if you own the fucking place. ask you a question, you post a link. yea, and I'm the one dragging the train down.
  • Dylan StoneDylan Stone Posts: 1,145
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    sigh. do links do your thinking for you ? so fucking sad.

    ahhh... forget it.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    sigh. do links do your thinking for you ? so fucking sad.

    How about referring to the link itself and commenting on it? Are you fucking incapable?
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    all you do is insult people who stand up to you. then report those who disagree with you as if you own the fucking place. ask you a question, you post a link. yea, and I'm the one dragging the train down.

    You haven't disagreed with me because you haven't referred to the thread topic in any way whatsoever. You asked me a question and I supplied you with a link which explains why the question of 'recognizing Israel' is irrelevant. You then insult me.
    When you actually have something to say, let me know.
  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    Byrnzie wrote:
    You haven't disagreed with me because you haven't referred to the thread topic in any way whatsoever. You asked me a question and I supplied you with a link which explains why the question of 'recognizing Israel' is irrelevant. You then insult me.
    When you actually have something to say, let me know.

    I dont want to know what someone else thinks. I asked YOU a question.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    I dont want to know what someone else thinks. I asked YOU a question.

    You don't fool me for a second. You want people here to steer away from providing links to support what they say so that the M.T can become a place where empty, unsubstantiated comments are thrown around and where nothing can be either proven or disproven. This would obviously suit your needs considering you have no argument and nothing you've said re: Israel/Palestine has any relation to the facts.

    Well, for your information, I will continue provding links to support what I say, and you and your buddy can continue criticising my methods all you like.
  • GauchoBGauchoB Posts: 224
    Byrnzie wrote:
    You don't fool me for a second. You want people here to steer away from providing links to support what they say so that the M.T can become a place where empty, unsubstantiated comments are thrown around and where nothing can be either proven or disproven. This would obviously suit your needs considering you have no argument and nothing you've said re: Israel/Palestine has any relation to the facts.

    Well, for your information, I will continue provding links to support what I say, and you and your buddy can continue criticising my methods all you like.

    Maybe you can just post the link instead of those really long articles. And quit hitting BOLD letters. Please? We know how STRONGLY you feel about the ILLEGAL OCCUPATION.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    GauchoB wrote:
    Maybe you can just post the link instead of those really long articles. And quit hitting BOLD letters. Please? We know how STRONGLY you feel about the ILLEGAL OCCUPATION.

    I did. I posted the main thrust of the article on the original thread re: Carter and Hamas. Perhaps you neglected to read it? Strange that, seeing as it was a direct response to a post of yours.
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I did. I posted the main thrust of the article on the original thread re: Carter and Hamas. Perhaps you neglected to read it? Strange that, seeing as it was a direct response to a post of yours.

    I have learned - so should you!
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    GauchoB wrote:
    Stop the presses: Hamas won't recognize Israel
    An update on this story. "Hamas Leader Vows Not to Recognize Israel After Carter Trumpets Terror Group's Willingness to Be Good 'Neighbor'," from Fox News:

    JERUSALEM — Just hours after former President Jimmy Carter trumpeted Hamas' agreement to let Israel "live as a neighbor," the same terrorist leader he met with face-to-face vowed not to recognize the Jewish state.
    But Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal did offer Israel a 10-year truce if it withdraws from all lands it seized in the 1967 Arab-Israeli war.
    Carter met twice with Mashaal over the weekend.
    The former president also said Monday that he would never sit down with Al Qaeda because the terror network has no "redeeming features."
    "[Al Qaeda] are not involved in any sort of a fruitful process. They are not recognized by their own people," Carter told FOX News in an interview Monday. "On the other hand, you have to remember Hamas in an honest and open and fair and transparent election were elected the leaders of the Palestinian government." [...]
    When asked whether he'd ever meet with Al Qaeda, Carter replied, "No, of course not."
    "I don't see any redeeming features of Al Qaeda at all," he said.

    In all fairness this is the truth about what Carter accomplished. Nothing.
    ...
    Of course they are going to continue the same old rhetoric they have been spewing for the past 30 years. Because they haven't sat down and talked to each other for the past 30 years. Get them talking, airing out their grivences by yelling at each other, instead of exchanging gunfire, and maybe there a chance that they will discover that they are all just people.
    ...
    And come on... you should know better than to use Fox News as your source. Fox News is basically the TMZ of broadcast 'Journalism'.
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