Barack Snowbaba?

HollyweirdHollyweird Posts: 197
edited March 2008 in A Moving Train
What do you think the GOP will do with this guys Snowy past?

ox News Battering Obama Over Book's Admissions
Reported by Judy - January 3, 2007 - 188 comments

The mainstream media finally got around to reading Barack Obama's 11-year-old autobiography which includes an admission of drug use as a teen-ager, so Fox News Wednesday (January 3, 2007) took the opportunity to go overboard and suggest Obama was a drug addict. Updated with video.

While portraying Obama in the most negative light possible, Fox News downplayed comparisons between Obama's candor over his youthful mistakes and allegations of cocaine use by George Bush.

The smearing of Obama started on "Fox and Friends First" with co-hosts Kiran Chetry, Steve Doocy, and Andrew Napolitano discussing the Washington Post article about the impact of the drug use admissions in Obama's book, Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance. Just to make sure no one missed the point, Fox News displayed a banner that read, "Obama Cocaine Confession."

Chetry got off message, however, by noting that Obama admitted to cocaine use "as did our current president, who admited to cocaine use, correct?" After Doocy and Napolitano interrupted, Chetry backpedaled, saying, "Who was it that said they witnessed him doing cocaine?" Still not getting any support from her co-hosts, Chetry gave up and the trio went on to paint Obama in as negative a light as possible.

"We don't know that he did it once," Doocy said.

Then Doocy went on to suggest that Obama had tried to hide the book, claiming that, "something like only 20,000 copies exist, but somebody at the Washington Post found a copy, read it."

As the Post article points out, only 20,000 copies were printed when the book was first published, but the book was recently reissued, with a run of 800,000. So getting a copy is not all that hard. In fact, I uncovered one at Barnes and Noble last spring, read it, and reviewed it recently for News Hounds. Would you like my copy, Steve?

Fox News was just getting warmed up. In the next hour, on "Fox and Friends," Doocy and Napolitano reprised their discussion, this time with co-host Gretchen Carlson. Carlson did not make Chetry's mistake of trying to compare Bush and Obama. This time, everyone stayed on message, criticizing Democrats only, such as Bill Clinton, for marijuana use.

Napolitano went so far as to suggest that Obama had been a drug addict, saying voters will ask themselves, "Do we want somebody like that in the White House, who was addicted to drugs in his teen-aged years?" Doocy corrected him that it was unclear whether Obama was "addicted," but the damage was done.

Doocy himself then insisted that Obama was "kind of boasting" about not having used heroin, although it's not clear how Doocy would know that since he hasn't read the book.

While taking every opportunity to smear Obama, Doocy suggested that it really was Democrats who would be doing it, saying "remember it'll be on the Democratic side first." And Napolitano claimed that Sen. Hillary Clinton's will take advantage saying, "So this is good news for Hillary."

And the three brought up the topic in another segment about presidential contenders in general, with Napolitano calling Obama, "Mr. Personality and no substance."

Missing from the Fox News discussion was the fact that Obama knew when the book was reissued that the incidents he discussed would cause him problems. In his introduction, Obama wrote that he probably would not tell the story "must differently today than I did ten years ago, even if certain passages have proven to be inconvenient politically, the grist for pundict commentary and opposition research."
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  • MasterFramerMasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    You realize Fox is now the lowest rated news network out of the big three right? Heh...
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  • HollyweirdHollyweird Posts: 197
    You realize Fox is now the lowest rated news network out of the big three right? Heh...
    Fox really wasnt really the point. The Clintons said nothing about this guys stupid admissions of coke, booze, pot and god knows what else. All those bible belt states Snowbama won in his cauceses? Red in November.
  • Judging by the last two presidents, i'd say some sort of involvement with cocaine seems to be a prerequisite for the job these days.

    I hardly see how it is going to be a liability.

    :rolleyes:
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • HollyweirdHollyweird Posts: 197
    Judging by the last two presidents, i'd say some sort of involvement with cocaine seems to be a prerequisite for the job these days.

    I hardly see how it is going to be a liability.

    :rolleyes:
    In California. Not a problem. Big problem in the bible belt
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    Judging by the last two presidents, i'd say some sort of involvement with cocaine seems to be a prerequisite for the job these days.

    I hardly see how it is going to be a liability.

    :rolleyes:
    Thats it. Im running for president.
  • HollyweirdHollyweird Posts: 197
    Nevermind wrote:
    Thats it. Im running for president.
    LOL
  • edpearsonedpearson Posts: 331
    I think it may hurt him even though it may not be true. I actually don't think it's a big deal anymore. If you were young from the late 60's on up to now, odds are you probably came across drugs in some way or another. Whether it was trying a puff of weed, being a pot-head, or simply just saying "NO". Heck, I might be more leary of a presidential candidate who never encountered any sort of drug culture during their youth. But anyway, this will probably hurt Obama because the GOP are great at being loud when these sorts of things arise. They love to joke about Bill Clinton's little pot fiasco. And while we all know about W's cocaine indulgence, very little people know that before the Bush twins were born, he and Laura vacationed in Jamaica and smoking pot; or that Laura actually sold dimebags while in college. It's documented, people! Yet, few really knows this because for some reason the media doesn't make a fuss about this. I think the Bush's drug issues are far, far, far more incriminating then Obama's (or Clinton's).
    Rock on!
    ~Edward

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  • edpearson wrote:
    I think the Bush's drug issues are far, far, far more incriminating then Obama's (or Clinton's).

    That bit about Laura Bush selling dime bags?
    That's AWESOME!
    Someone find me that evidence.

    As far as Bush vs. Obama,
    i think it's going to be up for debate who the bigger coke head was. I don't get the "may or may not be true" comment, because these are not allegations, they are from Obama's own autobiography.

    Now as far as either Bush or Obama Vs. Clinton?
    There is not an eightballs chance in hell that either of them come close to the involvement with cocaine that Bill (and Hillary) Clinton had vis a vis the Mena Airport \ Iran Contra Scandal connection.

    No way in hell.
    Bill was fucking dirty rolling in that white nasty shit.

    :mad:
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • MasterFramerMasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    I don't get the "may or may not be true" comment, because these are not allegations, they are from Obama's own autobiography.

    This comes from some reporters trying to vet his book. They reported Obama may have exaggerated his drug use because they couldn’t find anyone to corroborate it.
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  • nobody gives a shit. Bush was a cokehead too.
  • sapperskunksapperskunk Posts: 684
    You realize Fox is now the lowest rated news network out of the big three right? Heh...

    This is interesting, I haven't heard this yet. Could you please provide a link to this survey, it could help in some research I'm doing?

    Every time I google it, I just get Nielsen ratings, which shows FNC dominating the other networks.

    http://insidecable.blogsome.com/category/ratings/
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  • anothercloneanotherclone Posts: 1,688
    I think if Obama gets the nomination, McCain will be careful about bringing this up. His wife had a problem with prescription pain meds. Granted, one is legal, the other isn't.

    I can't remember where I heard this, but I think Cindy even stole from the meds from an agency she worked for. Could be a slippery slope for McCain should he chose to go there.

    Also, FOX news is just shit.
  • memememe Posts: 4,695
    Holy shit!

































    I'll take Obama's past over Hillary's, thanks.
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • They both stink.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Someone must be running out of Obama bashes to dig up an article from 14 months ago that is a non-issue.

    Like I said in another thread, if you want dirty politics, use your imagination and put these words together.

    Hillary...Iranian...women...swimming...and some kind of "dip". Must be some kind of dessert or something.
  • Someone must be running out of Obama bashes to dig up an article from 14 months ago that is a non-issue.

    Like I said in another thread, if you want dirty politics, use your imagination and put these words together.

    Hillary...Iranian...women...swimming...and some kind of "dip". Must be some kind of dessert or something.

    Oh this board will always have a good supply of fresh Obama, Hillary, McCain, Nader, Paul and Kucinich bashing. It's just depends on which flavor you like.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Oh this board will always have a good supply of fresh Obama, Hillary, McCain, Nader, Paul and Kucinich bashing. It's just depends on which flavor you like.

    An article from 14 months ago about a book from 8 years ago isn't what I would call "fresh"
  • An article from 14 months ago about a book from 8 years ago isn't what I would call "fresh"

    I didn't say it was.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    at least he is honest about his drug use, and most over things as well when the other running try to hide everything and trying to come off as perfect
    **CUBS GO ALL THE WAY IN......never **
  • i heard Barack Hussein Snobama Bin Laden is a dirty muslim! That eats babies!
  • edpearsonedpearson Posts: 331
    That bit about Laura Bush selling dime bags?
    That's AWESOME!
    Someone find me that evidence.

    It was documented in the Kittey Kelly book about the Bush family in 2004. She also killed someone in a car accident when she was 17 and reports apparently have her as being drunk when that happen. She's no saint!

    Here's the book and there's some narrative on these matters on Amazon's page (although, it's disputable depending on which side you're on): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0385503245
    Rock on!
    ~Edward

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  • HollyweirdHollyweird Posts: 197
    This comes from some reporters trying to vet his book. They reported Obama may have exaggerated his drug use because they couldn’t find anyone to corroborate it.
    There are multiple eye witnesess. Its in the press. Just look and you will find.
  • HollyweirdHollyweird Posts: 197
    I think if Obama gets the nomination, McCain will be careful about bringing this up. His wife had a problem with prescription pain meds. Granted, one is legal, the other isn't.

    I can't remember where I heard this, but I think Cindy even stole from the meds from an agency she worked for. Could be a slippery slope for McCain should he chose to go there.

    Also, FOX news is just shit.

    McCains wife was a pillhead. But she is not the candidate.
  • HollyweirdHollyweird Posts: 197
    KDH12 wrote:
    at least he is honest about his drug use, and most over things as well when the other running try to hide everything and trying to come off as perfect
    Maybe he was overt about it he had no choice but to out himself. So he outs himself so people can say "oh he was honest" so it doesn't count. That may work on the Pearl Jam board, but good luck in the bible belt.
  • Wouldn't it be Snowbama?

    like any of it matters anyways at this point...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • anothercloneanotherclone Posts: 1,688
    Hollyweird wrote:
    McCains wife was a pillhead. But she is not the candidate.

    Still, it would be easy for Obama to say "I'm sure we all know someone who has struggled with drug use".

    Not much of a need to say anything else, in my opinion.
  • KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    Hollyweird wrote:
    Maybe he was overt about it he had no choice but to out himself. So he outs himself so people can say "oh he was honest" so it doesn't count. That may work on the Pearl Jam board, but good luck in the bible belt.


    okay I am convinced that you keep posting this babbling nothingness just to increase your post count.......

    just start posting things that make sense please....

    he had a choice to out himself or not HE WROTE THE FUCKING BOOK he chose to include that part of his life
    **CUBS GO ALL THE WAY IN......never **
  • This is old news, he has admitted to this numerous times and doesn't hide it, he was a college kid. It hasn't hurt him yet and I don't think it will. I think the fact that a guy can say "yeah I did coke, smoked some pot, typical college stuff, I don't anymore, I have nothing to hide" is better than "I smoked but I didn't inhale" bull shit Bill tried peddle.

    As far as Bush doing it, who gives a crap? I hate Bush but people make mistakes, I know the president has to be held to a higher standard, but holding them accountable for something that happend 25 years ago, and not that major, is a bit much.
    I was taught a month ago to bide my time and take it slow, but then I learned just yesterday to rush and never waste a day. Now I'm convinced the whole day long that all I've learned is always wrong. Things are true that I forget, but no one taught that to me yet
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    MrSmith wrote:
    i heard Barack Hussein Snobama Bin Laden is a dirty muslim! That eats babies!


    black babies like McCain has?

    :)
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    was like a picture
    of a sunny day
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    ― Abraham Lincoln
  • Dustin51Dustin51 Posts: 222
    I wonder if Oberman will call Fox out on this.
    Be excellent to each other
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