SHOCKER!!! Big Oil moving back into Iraq!

Wobbie
Wobbie Posts: 31,409
edited June 2008 in A Moving Train
I'll grant you, this article is biased. But it is what it is, no matter who lays it out...

http://www.countercurrents.org/auken200608.htm

Here's a bit more of a mainstream explanation...

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/19/africa/19iraq.php
If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Smellyman2
    Smellyman2 Posts: 689
    But the Iraqi people are liberated from the evil dictator and can now watch porn, eat hot dogs and become fat, lazy and out of shape.

    More importantly we are protected from wmd's that they were about to use against us and Sadam can no longer harbour and fund Al Qaeda.
  • binger
    binger Posts: 179
    I'm pretty sure this means we need to drill off the coasts and Alaska. That's gonna fix everything.
    I want to point out that people who seem to have no power, whether working people, people of color, or women -- once they organize and protest and create movements -- have a voice no government can suppress. Howard Zinn
  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,409
    binger wrote:
    I'm pretty sure this means we need to drill off the coasts and Alaska. That's gonna fix everything.
    I don't really follow you... the thing I take from this news is that some very powerful (and rich) people now have a win-win which derived from the loss of thousands of not so rich or powerful peoples lives...
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
    Missoula 24
  • binger
    binger Posts: 179
    Just going by the news. Apparently we need to open up drilling in Alaska and off the coasts even though we now have stolen the second largest oil reserve in the world.
    I want to point out that people who seem to have no power, whether working people, people of color, or women -- once they organize and protest and create movements -- have a voice no government can suppress. Howard Zinn
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    binger wrote:
    Just going by the news. Apparently we need to open up drilling in Alaska and off the coasts even though we now have stolen the second largest oil reserve in the world.
    think an alternative energy source would be a better idea.
  • erickvazdel
    erickvazdel Posts: 140
    Iraquies leave your ancient history and traditions behind, now rejoice with cable tv, fast food chains, hollywood blockbusters and porn while America takes your oil away !!!!!!

    Uncle Sam won one more time ! Muuaahaahaha
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    erickvazdel wrote:
    Iraquies leave your ancient history and traditions behind, now rejoice with cable tv, fast food chains, hollywood blockbusters and porn while America takes your oil away !!!!!!

    Uncle Sam won one more time ! Muuaahaahaha

    I see your point, but let's not pretend your Michael Moore, and want to deceive everyone into thinking that the U.S. invaded some bastion of peace, love, and higher culture.
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    reborncareerist wrote:
    I see your point, but let's not pretend your Michael Moore, and want to deceive everyone into thinking that the U.S. invaded some bastion of peace, love, and higher culture.
    eh, Iraq was not at war, and they were the most technologically advanced country in the area-around 1990.


    Granted they were ruled by a dictator....but things were a lot better under Sadaam than they are under US rule.
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Commy wrote:
    eh, Iraq was not at war, and they were the most technologically advanced country in the area-around 1990.


    Granted they were ruled by a dictator....but things were a lot better under Sadaam than they are under US rule.

    Debatable ... I think it depends on which group you belong to. Certainly the country was more stable as a whole, and Saddam's totalitarianism kept a lid on the sectarian violence (with the exception of a few Shi'ite purges here and there). Dictators can do these things. I'm just not a fan of people overstating the case, is all. Iraq's culture was no more or less rich than that in any other Middle Eastern country.
  • erickvazdel
    erickvazdel Posts: 140
    reborncareerist wrote:
    I see your point, but let's not pretend your Michael Moore, and want to deceive everyone into thinking that the U.S. invaded some bastion of peace, love, and higher culture.

    Iraq have a great history that date back from Mesopotamia, the sumerians were one of the first advanced civilization on earth, they are the birthplace of writing! . After the war most part of their museums, monuments and ancient ruins have been destroyed or vandalized.

    I had the opportunity to do a backpacking trip trough turkey, syria, jordania, pakistan, and india a couple years ago, and the people in the middle east is great, they are not those evil persons that we see on TV, everybody is so polite and definitely non violent people.

    Of curse it's not a travelers paradise, but its pretty safe to travel, yeah they have conflicts and stuff like that, but it's part of their culture, it's something that we just can't understand, but they are happy just they way they are, and they feel extremely proud about their countries and their religions.

    And believe me , in Iraq things were a lot better before the war. Don't tell me that the US saved all that poor people from the hands of a dictator. The last thing that the US care about iraq, it's their people.
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    what the fuck is wrong with Porn? haters!

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