Keith Olbermann: Supsend your campaign McCain..

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edited October 2008 in A Moving Train
Ok.. whatever some of you think of Keith Olbermann is what it is.. but he says some very true words here on what is happening in this presidential race.. it is getting crazy and these things being said are not cool in the slightest.. who ever you plan to vote for.. this is not where this country needs to be heading.. it needs to stop.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27188346/

And this is where the satire ends and the Special Comment begins. Because this is not even remotely funny.

1:25 p.m. Eastern Time, today, in Scranton, Pennsylvania. During the warm-up act by a red meat Congressional candidate aptly named Chris Hackett, Hackett mentions Obama and a Palin audience member shouts, “Kill Him.”

And Gov. Palin, as usual, does nothing about it; says nothing to these thugs and psychos. She may not have heard this one. It is impossible to believe that by now she has not heard about the other ones. Her silence is deafening. Just as, Senator McCain, you have done nothing when violence has been asserted. Correction. You have done one thing.

Asked why, in real time, you do not repudiate this hatefulness, you act as if you are the victim. Speaking today to our NBC Station in Washington:

McCain: “Sure and I repudiated it as I have on several occasions. Unfortunately, Congressman John Lewis is an American hero who I admire who made the worst, most unacceptable statement a couple days ago that I have ever heard. He accused me and Sarah Palin of being involved in segregation, George Wallace and even made reference to a church bombing where children were killed. Senator Obama has not repudiated that statement. Senator Obama should do so immediately. Its the most outrageous thing that I have heard since in politics…it is disgraceful.”

Disgraceful?

Obviously, Senator, you haven’t heard your own speeches, and Gov. Palin’s, and what people shout during them. And you haven’t heard your state GOP Chair in Virginia, Jeffrey Frederick, giving talking points to 30 of your field-operatives heading out to canvass voters in Gainesville, Virginia, with a reporter present, telling them to try to forge a connection between Barack Obama and Osama bin Laden to emphasize bombings and terrorism. And you haven’t heard those volunteers, your volunteers Sen. McCain, shout back, “And he won’t salute the flag” and “We don’t even know where Sen. Obama was really born.”


Sen. McCain, these people are speaking for you! And how dare you try to claim Congressman Lewis was linking you to Gov. George Wallace’s segregation? He was linking you, aptly, to Gov. George Wallace’s lynch-mob mentality.

“As public figures with the power to influence and persuade,” said Congressman Lewis, “Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are playing with fire, and if they are not careful, that fire will consume us all.”

Sen. McCain, your supporters, at your events, are calling Obama a terrorist and traitor and are calling for him to be killed. And yet you keep bringing back these same rabid Right Wing nuts to deliberately stir these crowds into frenzies. And then you take offense when somebody who remembers the violence in our political past, calls you on it. You, sir, are responsible for a phalanx of individuals who are shouting fire in a crowded theater.

There are some things to respect and honor about you, Sen. McCain, but on this you’re not only a fraud, Senator, but you are tacitly inciting lunatics to violence. If you want to again grand-stand and suspend your campaign here’s your big chance. Suspend your campaign now, until you, or somebody else, gets some control over it and it ceases to be a clear and present danger to the peace of this nation.
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  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    yeah ... like i was saying about the electorate ... :|

    edit: really, why are people always focusing their attention on the candidates for shit like this ... blame the fact there are people who eat this shit up on both sides ... if people were ignorant sheep - this shit wouldn't work ...
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    what about Obama supports who wear shirts to rallys stating "Palin is a Cunt"??? Obama and his staff have said nothing about this...
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  • chromiam wrote:
    what about Obama supports who wear shirts to rallys stating "Palin is a Cunt"??? Obama and his staff have said nothing about this...

    If you don't see the difference between a stupid t-shirt and people at a rally yelling, "terrorist" and "kill him," than I don't know what to tell you.

    Yeah, they both suck, but they're not equal at all.
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    If you don't see the difference between a stupid t-shirt and people at a rally yelling, "terrorist" and "kill him," than I don't know what to tell you.

    Yeah, they both suck, but they're not equal at all.

    Hate speech has NO place in this country whether it be verbal or non-verbal. The intent is the same.
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  • chromiam wrote:
    Hate speech has NO place in this country whether it be verbal or non-verbal. The intent is the same.

    Really? Purposely framing one man as an Islamic terrorist and screaming "kill him" at a rally is the same as wearing a t-shirt?

    I'm with you, they're both inappropriate. And, wrong is wrong regardless of who is doing it. But they're still not the same. The intent is not the same either. No one is wearing a t-shirt that says "Sarah Palin is a Cunt" and inciting other members of a rally to kill her.
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,488
    chromiam wrote:
    what about Obama supports who wear shirts to rallys stating "Palin is a Cunt"???

    Where did you see/hear this? I'm not buying it.
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    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • QuestionAuthorityQuestionAuthority Idaho Posts: 327
    I am sorry but wearing a tshirt (which is also wrong) is NOT the same as yelling "kill him", "off with his head", "terrorist".. how can you NOT see the difference?
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    polaris wrote:
    yeah ... like i was saying about the electorate ... :|

    edit: really, why are people always focusing their attention on the candidates for shit like this ... blame the fact there are people who eat this shit up on both sides ... if people were ignorant sheep - this shit wouldn't work ...


    Listen, you're in part correct. The blame goes in part to the moronic, ignoramuses who absorb this dispicable crap, let it settle in their tiny brains and then go around spitting this crap out of their mouths...as if it is truth.

    But, the blame is absolutely shared by all who promote and spread the crap to the idiots. They know exactly what they are doing. They know the lemmings will suck this crap up, because they are playing to their mindless hate and ignorance. They know the effect it will have.

    So McCain/Palin and their team are not absolved from responsibility or blame.

    Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. Doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. Doesn't mean it's the good, positive and productive thing to do.

    McCain, his campaign team and The Repugs know this is the only approach that will give them a fighting chance. Play on the hate, ignorance and fear of mindless twits who are lucky they can find their own dicks (or tits), with their own hands.

    It doesn't take a genius to realize that the Repugs are using these dispicable tactics to dirty the water and prey on the lowest common denominator, of the most uneducated, ignorant and narrow-minded demographic in this country.

    You can say what you want about Keith Olberman, but 99% of the time he is right on the money and hits the nail right on the head. He often says the things and addresses the issues that many Americans should have seen, acknowledged and spoke against, already.

    I know Olberman pisses a lot of Repugs off and they hate him. But he is just about always correct and accurate.....99% of the time. He hits the mark, hits the target and hits it hard.
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    NMyTree wrote:
    Listen, you're in part correct. The blame goes in part to the moronic, ignoramuses who absorb this dispicable crap, let it settle in their tiny brains and then go around spitting this crap out of their mouths...as if it is truth.

    But, the blame is absolutely shared by all who promote and spread the crap to the idiots. They know exactly what they are doing. They know the lemmings will suck this crap up, because they are playing to their mindless hate and ignorance. They know the effect it will have.

    So McCain/Palin and their team are not absolved from responsibility or blame.

    Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. Doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. Doesn't mean it's the good, positive and productive thing to do.

    McCain, his campaign team and The Repugs know this is the only approach that will give them a fighting chance. Play on the hate, ignorance and fear of mindless twits who are lucky they can find their own dicks (or tits), with their own hands.

    It doesn't take a genius to realize that the Repugs are using these dispicable tactics to dirty the water and prey on the lowest common denominator, of the most uneducated, ignorant and narrow-minded demographic in this country.

    You can say what you want about Keith Olberman, but 99% of the time he is right on the money and hits the nail right ojn the head. He often says the things and addresses the issues that many Americans should have seen, acknowledged and spoke against, already.

    I know Olberman pisses a lot of Repugs off and they hate him. But he is just about always correct and accurate.....99% of the time. He hits the mark, hits the target and hits it hard.

    ok ... so, you have a lying sack of shit candidate using low-brow techniques and you want to berate him ... go ahead ... he doesn't give a shit nor does he care ... that's my point ... i'm not saying it's right - but this shit happens cuz it works ... and that ultimately is the fault of the electorate ...
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    chromiam wrote:

    Utter stupidity right there, and if we were at a rally I'd tell them to take it off or they should leave. Those are some asses right there for sure.

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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Responsibility lies on both sides. No matter how you slice it.

    Certainly a con man who swindles money out of elderly people, does it because he finds ignorant, or fragile or naive people....to swindle. So part of the problem and responsibility has to fall to his victims for not educating themselves, researching the swindler and using good judgement.

    But the con man is still a con man. A predator preying on a certain demographic's fears and ignorance. He's still a crook and punishable by law.

    Our goal should be to live in as best of a civilized society, as we can.

    Not make excuses for the dispicable amongst us and re-direct the blame only to one side.
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    NMyTree wrote:
    Responsibility lies on both sides. No matter how you slice it.

    Certainly a con man who swindles money out of elderly people, does it because he finds ignorant, or fragile or naive people....to swindle. So part of the problem and responsibility has to fall to his victims for not educating themselves, researching the swindler and using good judgement.

    But the con man is still a con man. A predator preying on a certain demographic's fears and ignorance. He's still a crook and punishable by law.

    Our goal should be to live in as best of a civilized society, as we can.

    Not make excuses for the dispicable amongst us and re-direct the blame only to one side.

    i'm not saying the politicians are blameless ... but if you keep buying solar-powered flashlights ... i'm gonna blame you more than the guy selling them ...

    the thing with this - is none of this is "illegal" ... they make their rallies to pander to their base ... just like i can sell you some worthless piece of shit item ... if you choose to buy it because i make you think that it'll give you 10 years of good luck - that's your own fault for buying it ... yeah, i'm a scumbag but i also have your money in my pocket and in this day and age - isn't that all anyone cares about?

    i would love to live in a world where shit like this doesn't happen - but you have to look at the crux of the problem and that is ultimately ignorance ...
  • SpeakersSpeakers Posts: 252
    chromiam wrote:
    what about Obama supports who wear shirts to rallys stating "Palin is a Cunt"??? Obama and his staff have said nothing about this...

    Um...I think they are just repeating what McCain called his wife in public a little while back.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/07/report-mccains-profane-ti_n_95429.html
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    polaris wrote:
    i'm not saying the politicians are blameless ... but if you keep buying solar-powered flashlights ... i'm gonna blame you more than the guy selling them ...

    the thing with this - is none of this is "illegal" ... they make their rallies to pander to their base ... just like i can sell you some worthless piece of shit item ... if you choose to buy it because i make you think that it'll give you 10 years of good luck - that's your own fault for buying it ... yeah, i'm a scumbag but i also have your money in my pocket and in this day and age - isn't that all anyone cares about?

    i would love to live in a world where shit like this doesn't happen - but you have to look at the crux of the problem and that is ultimately ignorance ...

    I acknowledged the crux of the problem......several times. I just feel (regardless that it's not illegal) that McCain/Palin and their Repbug campaign team, should be held accountable for this dispicable crap. And if Obama and his team do the same thing, so should he.

    I'm not saying arrest they should be charged with a crime, but that the election process should have stipulations and laws to avoid this kind of crap. It's sickening.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    What I find rather interesting, is this.

    A guy like Imus makes his "nappy-headed Ho" comment and a few million overly-sensitive americans went berzerk over it. He gets hammered in the media and fired.

    But during campaigns for the presidential position of the Unted States Of America; it's anything goes. What load of pretentious crap.
  • I've made note of this hate months ago on this very forum. I witness it almost daily coming from people that I thought better of.

    I started several threads about this and I'm not wanting a cookie or gold star, I just wanted to bring this up now that it's coming to an ugly head and peeps here thought I was exagerating or fearmongering.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,322
    McCAIN has had plenty of time to put and end to the negative vibe that his campaign has taken ,and he never has said very simple " i don't condone any of the negative name calling crap " he could of said it at all hi's rally once it started but he has chosen not to so hi's pit bull vp has kept it going ....desperate they are .
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  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    And those who register voters on behalf of Obama are completely separate from him. If McCain should suspend his campaign because of this, Obama should probably be thrown in prison for trying to tamper with election results.
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    Really? Purposely framing one man as an Islamic terrorist and screaming "kill him" at a rally is the same as wearing a t-shirt?

    I'm with you, they're both inappropriate. And, wrong is wrong regardless of who is doing it. But they're still not the same. The intent is not the same either. No one is wearing a t-shirt that says "Sarah Palin is a Cunt" and inciting other members of a rally to kill her.

    Both are wrong, definitely. A t-shirt is an actual statement in writing, that someone actually put thought into, manufactured, and wore. Screaming "Kill him" could be more of a heat-of-the-moment type of thing-- this takes place at political rallies where people yell, scream, and get incredibly passionate over all sorts of stupid bullshit. People regret things they blurt out all the time. There's so much less of a margin for error between a person's brain to their mouth (screaming out stupid shit), and a person's brain to their hand in designing a t-shrit, which then calls someone to order the material and explain the design, drives to pick it up, and then decides pretty consciously to wear it. Even if you weren't the designer of the shirt and made an impulse buy, you'd still have to actively decide to wear it. Shit, you'd even look in the mirror before you left that house, as most people would.

    As awful as screaming "Kill him! Terrorist!" is, I don't think you could prove that the person who screamed it actually really even meant it, unless they admitted to it. Of course what was said is worse than calling someone a "cunt," but the t-shirt people have a clearer intention against their foe, in my opinion.

    This shit IS getting ridiculous either way.
  • QuestionAuthorityQuestionAuthority Idaho Posts: 327
    floyd1975 wrote:
    And those who register voters on behalf of Obama are completely separate from him. If McCain should suspend his campaign because of this, Obama should probably be thrown in prison for trying to tamper with election results.


    You must be kidding.. because you can not be serious..

    How exactly is Obama tampering with election results? I am really interested in knowing.. because I know you can not be thinking he is responsibe for some one hired to get people registered and is paid PER registration.. that is just asking for mistakes and something Obama is not responsible for WHAT-SO-EVER.
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  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    You must be kidding.. because you can not be serious..

    How exactly is Obama tampering with election results? I am really interested in knowing.. because I know you can not be thinking he is responsibe for some one hired to get people registered and is paid PER registration.. that is just asking for mistakes and something Obama is not responsible for WHAT-SO-EVER.

    I do not think he is responsible for it. I also don't think McCain is responsible for someone yelling out their beliefs about his opponent or their desire for McCain to win the race in a blowout.

    Also, one of the states that this whole voter registration fraud is taking place is Ohio. It is illegal to pay per registration in Ohio.
  • QuestionAuthorityQuestionAuthority Idaho Posts: 327
    floyd1975 wrote:
    I do not think he is responsible for it. I also don't think McCain is responsible for someone yelling out their beliefs about his opponent or their desire for McCain to win the race in a blowout.

    Also, one of the states that this whole voter registration fraud is taking place is Ohio. It is illegal to pay per registration in Ohio.


    You still did not answer the question of why exactly he should be thrown into jail for tampering with election results...
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  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    You still did not answer the question of why exactly he should be thrown into jail for tampering with election results...

    I was drawing a parallel between the two. He should not be thrown in jail just like McCain should not be called on to suspend his campaign.
  • QuestionAuthorityQuestionAuthority Idaho Posts: 327
    floyd1975 wrote:
    I was drawing a parallel between the two. He should not be thrown in jail just like McCain should not be called on to suspend his campaign.


    Thanks for clarifying that.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    floyd1975 wrote:
    I do not think he is responsible for it. I also don't think McCain is responsible for someone yelling out their beliefs about his opponent or their desire for McCain to win the race in a blowout.

    Also, one of the states that this whole voter registration fraud is taking place is Ohio. It is illegal to pay per registration in Ohio.
    OH BS....His VP's been spreading hate..down right hate in every well scripted stump speech she's made...with McCain standing idly by.

    I'm though wondering if the idiots in the cunt shirts aren't Republicans playing it up.
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    I'm though wondering if the idiots in the cunt shirts aren't Republicans playing it up.

    of course, because democrats would never stoop to doing something like that, right? they're the purest of the pure.
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  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    callen wrote:
    OH BS....His VP's been spreading hate..down right hate in every well scripted stump speech she's made...with McCain standing idly by.

    I'm though wondering if the idiots in the cunt shirts aren't Republicans playing it up.

    And Obama paid ACORN $800,000 for voter registration. Once again, I do not believe that Obama is responsible for these actions just as I don't believe that Governor Palin's pointing out Senator Obama's lack of qualification can be blamed for these people who use unfortunate language and scream false allegations.
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