Disgusted..
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I know the polls are a bunch of bullshit.. but if it does turn out that McCain actually wins this election ~ sorry, to say it but we will deserve EVERY hardship that comes our way as a society. CHANGE, REAL CHANGE is what this country needs right now.. not bullshit, same old policies wrapped up with a bow and being sold as new.. but then again we are hardly getting any word on the actual policies that McCain/Palin stand for.
Bush won two terms because he was a guy people wanted to "have a beer with"..
Now we have Palin pulling this ticket up because women want to have lunch with her.. "she is just so real and I can relate to her"! WAKE THE FUCK UP!
It never stops to amaze me how easily lead the masses in this country are.
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Bush won two terms because he was a guy people wanted to "have a beer with"..
Now we have Palin pulling this ticket up because women want to have lunch with her.. "she is just so real and I can relate to her"! WAKE THE FUCK UP!
It never stops to amaze me how easily lead the masses in this country are.
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As individual fingers we can easily be broken, but together we make a mighty fist ~ Sitting Bull
As individual fingers we can easily be broken, but together we make a mighty fist ~ Sitting Bull
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Yeah, but not every crazy guy or girl is reaching for so much power and might become so dangerous.
What honestly will result from an Obama presidency? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Give me one good, thought-out, practical plan he has laid out that will make any kind of difference what so ever in the dismal state of affairs in which this country currently wallows. Didn't think so.
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All these people skeeve me out :(
What exactly is Mccain going to do that will be better?
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Presidents do not make plans - they lead. They have an incredible staff to make the plans. The president rarely needs to even decide between competing options, the research generally leaves a very best option.
The difference is that we will have a President with a REAL Harvard education and A Real grasp for the issues. A President that will appoint the best and the brightest to positions of authority instead of the same old political hacks. And finally we will have a real President, not a Vice President making the decisions with a rubber stamp pseudo-cowboy being the figurehead.
Obama has many well thought out, practical plans to get us out of the mess the Republicans have left us, if you take the time to read them. John McCain and the She Moose will just give us 4 more years of Karl Rove, unwinnable wars, and put us trillions of dollars more in the hole.
ebay isn't evil people are
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Maybe part of the whole "beer" and "lunch" thing is the fact that their opposition only resorts to attacking their character and past and doesn't try to spend any time actually discussing the change they plan to make.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I mean, really? As for "discussing the change," the Obama campaign has laid out plenty of plans - many of which, I might add, are already being adopted by our government (draw downs in Iraq, more troops to afghanistan, diplomatic relations with Iran, etc.).
Now, if you're talking about supporters being all "mean and like totally out of line," then I'm sorry, but that goes on on both sides. Seems like to me, though, only one side is doing it from the top down, and it isn't Obama's.
Do you think it has something to do with the media's involvement in elections? T.V. as a projector of just the surface of things? These elections are beginning to seem SO out of touch with what they're supposed to be about, there MUST be something wrong with how people are being influenced.
Perhaps it's become more like an immature popularity contest than the selection of a leader. Perhaps the passivity and thoughtlessness that has become so much a part of our culture is killing us!!!
Masses of people can be swayed by ridiculous, illogical nonsense! :eek:
You're right, but that's how amadinejad got elected.
So what would be real change? Voting for Obama?
Or wholesale political upheaval removing everyone from office and installing new members? Or complete revolution and a new governmental system.
What exactly is change?
From the party of the swift boat, comes a comment like this...unfuckenbelievable.
Pretty good places to live out on the Yucatan but I'd go Belize first personally (hot and muggy but you know hot and muggy anyway). Mexico's government is more corrupt than ours is even.
I say keep the wife keep the job, build the new house off the ground 10ft or so and install an aerodynamic roof, straps, storm shutters and caulk the bottom.
I think you guys are a little too upset about polls in September. This is going to be a very close election as they all have been recently but it would still be a pretty large upset at this point for McCain to win the election after 8 years of George Bush. I'm still thinking the turnout will be larger than ever many of them new voters and most of them voting for Obama.
I'd still like to change out the majority of our politicians and go with 1 year terms though.
That's funny, because Obama/Biden are doing the exact same thing.
In previous years I had hopes that people would come through and vote reasonably, but now I have less faith in "the average person" because the average person is picking the wrong answer too often!!
True, but democrats have owned congress for most of that time too and the "Contract with America" largely didn't go anywhere. I think the last two election results are enough that people won't underestimate turnout and they'll get off thier duffs and go vote. To me this is more like the 1994 election than anything, I think people relate more to Obama than McCain and Palin is simply getting attention right now because of the recent selection and the fact that she is really not very well known.
I have to hand it to both campaigns Obama probably picked his perfect guy in Biden and that was a pretty shrewed move by McCain picking Palin, I can't see him getting this type of attention or swing with any of the other choices he had.
Maybe you're right it wouldn't be that much of an upset but I just think Obama resonates with people and motivates them... McCain got screwed in 2000 by fundamentalists and now he's counting on them... I guess. On paper to me depending on turnout McCain has been behind if not almost absent for a while until this good play last week. No reporters ever ask on television, if McCain is the right man for the job now... why wasn't he better in 2000? Why give us a retread canidate your base already dumped on once...in favor of Bush? Seriously? Bush was better? Why?
You really think that McCain's camp wants to talk the issues? Of course they don't, because if you bring up the issues you have to bring up the last eight years, which McCain's camp does not want to do under any circumstance; they want to avoid reminding people if they can that McCain and President Bush belong to the same party. Obama and Biden want to bring up these issues cause that means they get to run against Bush's last eight years, and get to constantly remind people that McCain and Bush DO belong to the same party. Both camps have ulterior motives for how they're operating because they both want to bring up the issues of the war, the economy, etc. but the fact remains that only one of those camps is trying to highlight the issues.
That's true...I don't think Palin was a great pick on the merits of being a good VP, but politically it was a grand slam.
The change brought by Obama has NOTHING to do with the color of his skin..
I can give you one HUGE plan that will make a difference.. he is going to reject that horrendous tax cut given to the richest of the rich. He is going to increase the tax on people making over 250,000 per year.. instead of rewarding companies for bailing out on American workers and sending their jobs abroad to hire a foreigner at cheap wages to do the same job ~ he is going to penalize them for that choice.
I could go on and on as there are oh so many other things.. why dont you go check out those things for yourself on his website.. it is laid out for you nice and easy to read.
As individual fingers we can easily be broken, but together we make a mighty fist ~ Sitting Bull
Hello pot. Meet Kettle.
That is absurd!
Do you actually believe that?
Have you seen any news coverage in the last, oh I don't know.. MONTH?
As individual fingers we can easily be broken, but together we make a mighty fist ~ Sitting Bull
Bush was appointed President by the supreme court in 2000 based on the only count out of eight that tipped the election his way while Gore and the Democrats were to chicken shit to stand up and call bullshit for fear of being called sore losers.
Bush won the 2004 election based on voter fraud intimadation and abuses throughout the country most notably in Ohio as detailed by the Conyers report, again as the chicken shit Democrats sat back with their thumbs up their azzs.
Could not agree with you more!
I sure hope the democrats grow some balls and start getting pissed and stop backing down and cowering away..
As individual fingers we can easily be broken, but together we make a mighty fist ~ Sitting Bull
he still won though
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