why is this not bigger news

ThecureThecure Posts: 814
edited December 2007 in A Moving Train
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/2008/view.bg?articleid=1049674

and now he is saying that at that time many people didn't know abotu HIV. what, it was 1992
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  • “I feel homosexuality is an aberrant, unnatural and sinful lifestyle, and we now know it can pose a dangerous public health risk.” - Holy Roller Huckabee

    Church and state?...this guy is too hot for Bible thumping.

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    why am i not suprised
  • just a republican...not a threat this time around.
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  • Because the people who would be upset about these comments aren't going to vote for him anyway...
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  • dharma69dharma69 Posts: 1,275
    Thecure wrote:
    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/2008/view.bg?articleid=1049674

    and now he is saying that at that time many people didn't know abotu HIV. what, it was 1992
    I've heard this story plenty; it's hardly as if it isn't out there.

    To objective (which I know is hard for some), there's nothing unreasonable about what he said about people not knowing a lot about HIV at that time and thinking that it should be treated like we'd probably treat a massive outbreak of tuberculosis or any other burgeoning threat to mass public health. Millions of people just didn't know. Even in 1992.

    As for his personal opinion of homosexuality; he's entitled to feel that it's immoral, isn't he? It's hardly an opinion that's confined soley to conservatives or Republicans.

    And, no I'm not pro-Huckabee. I'm pro-logic.
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  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    dharma69 wrote:
    I've heard this story plenty; it's hardly as if it isn't out there.

    To objective (which I know is hard for some), there's nothing unreasonable about what he said about people not knowing a lot about HIV at that time and thinking that it should be treated like we'd probably treat a massive outbreak of tuberculosis or any other burgeoning threat to mass public health. Millions of people just didn't know. Even in 1992.

    As for his personal opinion of homosexuality; he's entitled to feel that it's immoral, isn't he? It's hardly an opinion that's confined soley to conservatives or Republicans.

    And, no I'm not pro-Huckabee. I'm pro-logic.

    maybe it's me but i knew alot abotu HIV back in 92.
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  • dharma69dharma69 Posts: 1,275
    Thecure wrote:
    maybe it's me but i knew alot abotu HIV back in 92.
    I'm not surprised; add yourself to the millions of others who were clued in.

    But you can't discount the millions more who were not and how absolutely terrifying the thing was. I can't honestly say that I remember how much I knew about it in '92, but it probably wasnt a whole lot.
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  • If he was a serious contender, it might be bigger news. Most right-wingers probably feel this way.
    I had a lady come up to me with the latest local gossip, that someone we know has had HIV for 8 years. My reaction, "So!" She was freaked because she rode on a jet ski with him. Then she went into the whole, "He looks so healthy" bit. I asked if she expected him to look like Tom Hanks in Philadelphia.
    Even now people don't really understand it.
  • While it was an ignorant comment, I don't understand why people are up in arms about it.

    Theoretically, quarantining everyone with HIV would stop the spread of the virus. Obviously this would never happen because so many people do not know they have it but it would work.

    It would be an egregious human rights violation but just think about how many lives would be saved.

    I'm in no way advocating doing such a thing but while it is drastic, it could eliminate the virus.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Thecure wrote:
    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/2008/view.bg?articleid=1049674

    and now he is saying that at that time many people didn't know abotu HIV. what, it was 1992
    ...
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  • He's bad at math too. 1992 to 2007 does not "almost 20 years" make.
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  • People are not all as well educated as we are....I almost cried earlier in this semester in Biology 101 when we were discussing viruses and someone actually asked if HIV could be airborne!!! I am not kidding, and she sounded pretty damn serious!
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  • Evangelists like Hucakabee called AIDS the 'gay disease' and used it to promote intolerance and hatred. I mean who gives a shit what he thought about the homosexual lifestyle, AIDS was killing just as many 'straight' people. I still fail to understand why so much emphasis with regards to AIDS is placed on homosexuals since the disease is not partyicular about who it infects and was never confined to the gay community as the fundamentalists would have us believe.
  • dharma69dharma69 Posts: 1,275
    Because you don't need to quarantine people with HIV, its not like influenza in that it is actually comparatively difficult to spread the virus. The killer is that for 10 yeras HIV is dormant, during which time people are often unaware they have the virus and continue other apsects of their lifestyle unihibited.
    No HIV isn't communicable like influenza; I think his point was a theorectical one and technically correct, particulary for the time period that the suggestion was made. Quarantining those with the virus actually would stop it from spreading. That was logical thinking at that time and you can't really argue with it.

    Plus back then people didn't know that the virus had a dormant nature.
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