Who Has Hurt Their Campaign More Biden or Palin?
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.....Or NOT at all.
Just curious cause I haven't seen much of Joe Biden lately and we do plenty about Sarah Palin.
It seems Biden has Gaffe Immunity and Palin has solidified the conservative base.
Helped or Hurt?
Peace
Just curious cause I haven't seen much of Joe Biden lately and we do plenty about Sarah Palin.
It seems Biden has Gaffe Immunity and Palin has solidified the conservative base.
Helped or Hurt?
Peace
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
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Palin is a tough call. She energized the campaign, which helped immensely, but also turned off some voters.
Ha ha ha ha ha. Repubs like Hillary, eh? Yeah, that GOP has always been fond of all things Clinton. :rolleyes:
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He did a first-class job of not only defending Obama, but showing that he himself is extremely well-informed and totally unflappable. Imagine this being a Democratic pit bull going after Sarah Palin like this. Laughable. She wouldn't begin to know how to come back, and afterward all we'd hear is how terrible the media is and how unfair they are to her free speech rights, as well as their being sexist. A contender like Hillary would have spit out the "interrogator" like Biden; Palin would have had a meltdown.
Biden is a definite asset for the Obama campaign. He's a guy who can deflect the crap, go on the attack without becoming an ugly American, and a man who has vast foreign policy knowledge. He is the "go to" guy for Obama on many fronts, and serves Obama extremely well. And he will continue to do so, should Obama/Biden become our executive branch picks in a couple of days.
Essentially, what the Democratic ticket has is two men equally capable of being president on it. The Republican ticket has one man who has shown nothing but terrible judgment and one woman who is totally not up for any job but reality TV host. Biden is a true asset. Mark me well and hear my words.
the liberal elite, and almost factless, lynching of Palin = The greatest thing that ever happened to the Obama Campaign.
McCains poor campaign strategy hasn;t helped a whole lot, to be fair.
The truth is that Palin has been a good governor, while Obama has never sniffed ANYTHING executive in government. He is a second-tier politician in every sense of the word.
The spin is just gross.
Biden is a caricature of himself, the man can't stop saying stupid things.
If he's such an asset, where the hell is the man?
This should have been a poll.
Even though he hasn't sniffed anything government as you say why is it that he's garnered so many new voters and such a huge following along with apparently leading in the polls?
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
This pretty much sums up how I feel. I think Biden is a great pick for VP.
Truly McCain has run a terrible campaign, but his choice of Palin as VP will go down as his worst mistake.
Both sides sling mud, but in the end the truth sticks.
I don't care about Obama's house discount.
I don't care about McCains Houses.
I don't care about people who came into contact with Obama throughout his life. (Rev. Wright, Ayers, The PLO dude)
I don't care about mistakes that McCain made. (divorcing his 1st wife because she is ugly, His wacko reverend)
I don't care about Palins Shopping or her Witch doctor beating out the demons.
But the truth is Palin is completely ignorant of world events. She couldn't name one newspaper she has ever read, and in her unscripted interviews she comes across as a moron.
I don't think the McCain campaign vetted her and they ultimately paid the price. She solidified the base, but she alienated the middle and that in the end will be the undoing of McCain.
becasue he's the best used car saleman in the world. even I get goosebumps listeneing to his rhetoric, until I analyze the actual words.
that and the indesputable liberal bias in the media.
That's just great now we'll have a used car salesman as President just when car sales are going in the dumps. What are we to do now?
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
vote for the better man, there's stil time.
thanks for agreeing with me on that.
Biden is flawed just like any politician..yes he'll say literally every five seconds even though it's not a literal number. Sometimes you'd think you're talking to dan quale i'd swear! However, the man doesn't really make gaffes in policy questions. He has been around for 25+ years and the American people know that he knows foreign policy. The media wasn't interested in him and never really covered him on the campaign trails which always helps make those gaffes minimal but they are there.
Palin on the other hand is a whole different story. PERSONALLY, the VP pick is someone that's supposed to be there to advise the president when needed. I don't see how sarah palin can advise john mccain aside from cutting spending here and ther. The woman has absolutely 0 experience on foreign policy and Mccain's camp handled her as poorly as you could. They killed the woman's confidence by limiting her to the press and doing only big interviews (gibson, couric) and it gave the American public a very skewed oulook on her. I don't know what type of politician she will be...but she did alienate the independent base in a major way. Mccain was trying to pass her as clinton #2 to women but IMO greatly underestimated the independent female vote and intellect...overall biden helped a little bit or none and palin hurt, not sure how bad, but she did not help him overall in this election