Does Obama Have An Anger Problem?
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That's right. Obama may be the candidate with the anger problem -- a problem in that it seems he can't get angry. Or is it that he doesn't think he can let us see him get mad? Whatever it is, it's a problem that could cost him the election.
It occurred to me when I was watching Steve Kroft interview him on 60 Minutes. There's a little bit of a distance. Obama's holding back. There's a coolness there that might be good for governance, but isn't so good for politicking. It might explain why so many voters still can't connect with him on a gut level.
I'm not talking about the web crazies who rant about the HALF-BLACK Barack HUSSEIN Obama being a secret MUSLIM. (Curiously many of the same people who insist Obama is a secret MUSLIM are also enraged about Obama's longtime pastor, Reverend Wright. Does that make Reverend Wright a secret IMAM?) I'm talking about the rational voters who, after all these months, still don't feel like they know who he is.
To be sure Obama expresses disapproval. During the debates he could be testy and aloof. (Remember telling Hillary she was "likable enough"?) On the stump recently he's been indignant about the McCain/Palin ads. But he never boils over, lets someone have it.
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I most certainly believe Obama has a anger problem. It seems to me once in awhile he needs to get pissed off about something, show and let the citizenry know he CARES emotionally.
Here's the article on Obama's Anger Problem
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
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I completely agree. There is already a general consensus among the "low information voters" that Michelle Obama is an "angry black activist". To show too much emotion could be dangerous for him. Which is fucking ridiculous...
exactly ... every chance Bill O'Reilly gets, he calls Michelle "angry" ... and it disgusts me ... because you can see the racist tones behind it ...
So, Obama HAS to be cool and collected at all times.
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
I agree also..
As individual fingers we can easily be broken, but together we make a mighty fist ~ Sitting Bull
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDwODbl3muE
lol, great point.
Nail on the head, he has to play it cool and he KNOWS it or he'll painted in a corner as the angry black man. "Then the question will be Do you want this angry man presiding over this country."
However, showing a little something every now and then would cool. I wonder what would get under his skin?
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I think he's balanced it well ... especially in the past week or so. firm, but not angry.
The only think about Obama that I think might play poorly, he tends to stutter at the outset when he's excited to defend or argue a position.
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
Where did I say once that everyone in America was racist?
did anyone say that "everyone in America" is racist?
(I'm not even touching sponger's comment)
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
"everyone" doesn't matter, it's the excuse given every time, I'm tired of it.
Every time what?
I'm from that culture and you certainly have this totally wrong. One of the things my Irish lady likes about me is that I can keep my cool in critical situations, therefore my username. She's a redhead firey person I'm cool, this has nothing to do with symbols of masculinity.
That's total nonsense.
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
The comments about Obama being perceived as "an angry black man" imply that Americans are still judging him by his skin color, which is indicative of racism.
And my comment is 100% true. The African American population in the US for the most part identifies with its own set of cultural behavioralisms.
This is why many black female recording artists in the US complain of sexism within the hip hop industry moreso than their white counterparts.
In fact, when marketing agencies target minority consumers, they design their marketing strategies aorund known culturally linked behavioral traits with which those minority groups identify.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
There are always exceptions, and you clearly are an exception. Nodbody likes to be categorized even when it's an accurate categorization, so of course you're going to try to downplay anything even resembling such.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
That is applicable to american culture. Not just just to one of the races found in america.
I was going to come at ya but at the same time keep my cool.
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
As is the anger thing...see how that works?
I edited it out only because your post spoke for itself, and I was going to let others figure it out on their own.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
What? that's what I was talking about.
Sorry, I was using your quote to reiterate my point about everyone blaming how Obama "has to act" for fear of racism all the time...
Wasn't directed at you.
Everyone does matter, apparently to you, why else would you have said it? No one in this thread, or any other thread I've seen, has said that everyone in America is racist. Many people, including myself have acknowledged that race will play a factor in this election, and considering how close this election will probably be, it could be a game-changing factor. I think for someone to believe otherwise they would have to jump through quite a few logistical hoops. It's just not realistic to say it won't be a part of this election.
I think David Chappelle's sketch about a black head of household switching places with a white head of household pretty much sums up the reality of that which I am speaking.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
Semantics...you are assuming it matters to enough people that he wouldn't be elected. You are saying that people (you didn't say some
Those that won't vote for him because he's black already don't need an outburst from him to make that decision...now do they? It wouldn't change a thing based on racist voters.
I don't know...I don't think racism and prejudice is as simple and as easily defined as to divy it up into racism and non-racism. I think it's wrong in any respect, but that doesn't mean it's a black and white issue (no pun intended). Many people who cast a vote against him because he's black would probably never admit that in public. But when you have 12% of Democratic white voters in Pennsylvania saying they voted against Obama on the basis of racism, and you have people theorizing through polling that Obama could lose as many as 6 percentage points due to racism, and when you take into account that for the simple fact that most people who are racist are not going to openly and knowingly admit it to a pollster which means that those numbers are probably far higher....
.....yeah, taking all that into account, I think it's going to be a pretty significant part of this election.
I htink you didn't read my post. Certainly people won't vote for him based on race (just as some people will vote for him based solely on race). But they are already not going to vote for him whether or not they'll publicly admit it or admit why. So, an outburst making these people see him as an angry black man will have no effect over their vote, as they have already made up their minds.
I did read your post, and that is why I responded with the assertion that racism is not that simple. There are many people who are undecided, who may have concisious or unconcisous racial tendencies. Obama has probably realized he cannot appear threatening to these people. I doubt most of the racists in this country walk around with the constant realization and acknowledgment, "I'm a racist"...many people, including myself at times in my life, have held racial attitudes without realizing it. Yes, there are definitely racists who will no way, no how vote for a black man, but there are also many others who probably do not like McCain but may be wary of voting for Obama because he's black.
Also, the idea that the whites who will vote against Obama due to his skin color, and the blacks who will vote for him due to his skin color will create an equal balancing allowing the issues to flourish is just unlikely. The percentage of the electorate in 2004 was about 80% white. Even with more black turnout this time around, it's still probably going to be about 75% white...and minority voters have tended to vote in overwhelming numbers for the Democratic candidate anyway. So, if those numbers were a little more even, maybe we could talk about the race votes being a wash.
Where did I say it was an equal balance? I didn't. Never said it was a wash, not once. You're trying to debate me about the effect of racism while I'm trying to stick only the topic of an Obama outburst. We're not even talking the same thing.