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How To Create An Angry American

g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
edited February 2008 in A Moving Train
An interesting 6 minutes.....How To Create An Angry American and were you ever ANGRY as to what has transpired by the leadership of this country?

So what are you going to do about it?

Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    g under p wrote:
    An interesting 6 minutes.....How To Create An Angry American and were you ever ANGRY as to what has transpired by the leadership of this country?

    So what are you going to do about it?

    Peace

    Nice find. Sean Penn's spot on, these fuckers should all be in jail.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Nice find. Sean Penn's spot on, these fuckers should all be in jail.

    Complacency and distraction thrives in our country.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    I can't open the video, but am sure I agree. American's have a lot to be angry about.
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    i would say the response level on this thread reflects the american public ... asleep at the wheel really .. its sad ...
  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,380
    g under p wrote:
    Complacency and distraction thrives in our country.

    Peace
    very well stated. many americans are more concerned with the latest celeb "gossip" than with the state of the government.
  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    polaris wrote:
    i would say the response level on this thread reflects the american public ... asleep at the wheel really .. its sad ...
    Take a look at the world's leaders. This is not an American thing, it's a people thing. Canada put up with decades of Liberal corruption. European countries ceded all power to the EU. Africa's a mess. Australia's struggling. Do I need to mention the state of China, or Pakistan.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
    ~ Bob Marley
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    surferdude wrote:
    Take a look at the world's leaders. This is not an American thing, it's a people thing. Canada put up with decades of Liberal corruption. European countries ceded all power to the EU. Africa's a mess. Australia's struggling. Do I need to mention the state of China, or Pakistan.

    dude ... we are talking about the death and suffering of hundreds of thousands of people here ... get over your disdain for the fucking liberal party of canada ... the bs is much worse with harper ...

    at the end of the day - you are right tho - it's happening everywhere ... its just the impact and obviousness isn't as evident ... do you think the same sitation could have happened here??
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    surferdude wrote:
    Take a look at the world's leaders. This is not an American thing, it's a people thing. Canada put up with decades of Liberal corruption. European countries ceded all power to the EU. Africa's a mess. Australia's struggling. Do I need to mention the state of China, or Pakistan.

    China's economy is thriving. And Europe's not doing too badly either. As for Australia struggling, I'd say that's highly debatable. I could be wrong though.
  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    Byrnzie wrote:
    China's economy is thriving.
    At what price to personal freedoms and the environment?
    Byrnzie wrote:
    And Europe's not doing too badly either.
    Again, at what price to personal freedoms? Do you really think France has a good leader?
    Byrnzie wrote:
    As for Australia struggling, I'd say that's highly debatable. I could be wrong though.
    Their healthcare is falling apart. They don't know what to do with the aboriginals.

    There's so much more to it than having a good economy. If that was the measuring stick then Bush has done a not bad job.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
    ~ Bob Marley
  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    polaris wrote:
    dude ... we are talking about the death and suffering of hundreds of thousands of people here ... get over your disdain for the fucking liberal party of canada ... the bs is much worse with harper ...
    I agree with you the bs from Harper in the last 3 months or so is a joke. It's everything I thought they had moved on from, I truly thought they had learned from their mistakes. I only mentioned the Liberals because Canadians kept electing them over and over, intentionally blind to what the Liberals were doing to Canada. Sadly it leaves Canada in the same position as the US and many other countries, no one with integrity and good ideas to vote for. We are just as fucked moving forward as any other country.
    polaris wrote:
    at the end of the day - you are right tho - it's happening everywhere ... its just the impact and obviousness isn't as evident ... do you think the same sitation could have happened here??
    Yes, and it is. Look at our alternatives to vote for. We are screwed going forward. The best we can hope for is a string of minority governments where they prevent the worst of each party from becoming policy.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
    ~ Bob Marley
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    surferdude wrote:
    I agree with you the bs from Harper in the last 3 months or so is a joke. It's everything I thought they had moved on from, I truly thought they had learned from their mistakes. I only mentioned the Liberals because Canadians kept electing them over and over, intentionally blind to what the Liberals were doing to Canada. Sadly it leaves Canada in the same position as the US and many other countries, no one with integrity and good ideas to vote for. We are just as fucked moving forward as any other country.

    Yes, and it is. Look at our alternatives to vote for. We are screwed going forward. The best we can hope for is a string of minority governments where they prevent the worst of each party from becoming policy.

    i never voted liberal in my entire life ...

    my question was more related to the video ... do you think that canadians would do nothing as our leaders lied about going to war with another country? ... a war that has had disastrous consequences for so many innocent people!?
  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    polaris wrote:
    my question was more related to the video ... do you think that canadians would do nothing as our leaders lied about going to war with another country? ... a war that has had disastrous consequences for so many innocent people!?
    I'm at work so I can't watch the video, but the answer is yes. There's nothing unique about Americans that make them more prone to this than any other country. It's human nature.

    Look at all the countries that have not overthrown brutal dictators. People are people everywhere around the world. We are our own worst enemy. We buy the lies even when we know they're lies becaus eit makes us feel better. We feel absolutely no accountablility to each other, it's civic narcissism.

    Canada makes war on it's own mental ill everyday. I don't see much different in the lies the different levels of government sell us regarding the the drug addicted and mentally ill leading to their deaths than deaths of soldiers going to war. In both cases it's innocent lives lost to government lies and actions.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
    ~ Bob Marley
  • searchlightsoulsearchlightsoul Posts: 583
    surferdude wrote:
    At what price to personal freedoms and the environment?
    Again, at what price to personal freedoms? Do you really think France has a good leader?Their healthcare is falling apart. They don't know what to do with the aboriginals.

    There's so much more to it than having a good economy. If that was the measuring stick then Bush has done a not bad job.

    Atleast everyone in Australia has access to health care. If that means our health care is falling apart than America is fucked.
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    surferdude wrote:
    I'm at work so I can't watch the video, but the answer is yes. There's nothing unique about Americans that make them more prone to this than any other country. It's human nature.

    Look at all the countries that have not overthrown brutal dictators. People are people everywhere around the world. We are our own worst enemy. We buy the lies even when we know they're lies becaus eit makes us feel better. We feel absolutely no accountablility to each other, it's civic narcissism.

    Canada makes war on it's own mental ill everyday. I don't see much different in the lies the different levels of government sell us regarding the the drug addicted and mentally ill leading to their deaths than deaths of soldiers going to war. In both cases it's innocent lives lost to government lies and actions.

    well - you can tie a lot of brutal dictators to one country - and that is the country mentioned in the video ...

    in any case - i will agree to disagree with you yet again - i do not believe for one second we would stomach the bs that went on leading up to and during the war ... i don't believe that our country is perfect - far from it ... but i do feel our citizens are active enuf to at least do something about this particular bs ...
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    thanks for this find :) someone should play those candidates those footages of themselves, and then ask them "so do tell me why you think you weren't lying?".
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    surferdude wrote:
    At what price to personal freedoms and the environment?

    Again, at what price to personal freedoms? Do you really think France has a good leader?

    Their healthcare is falling apart. They don't know what to do with the aboriginals.

    There's so much more to it than having a good economy. If that was the measuring stick then Bush has done a not bad job.

    China is still a communist ruled country and has never pretended otherwise and we still gave them "favorite nation" status.

    China's environment is worst than ours because it is the world's largest factory. Even though our air quality is better, it's not the best. It should get better once the trucks from Mexico start criss-crossing our highways with their non-EPA regulated vehicles.

    The man got divorced and remarried, at least it wasn't his cousin. Hell, he could have went the for quick bj every now and then as long as the chick wasn't chunky and homely looking the French people wouldn't have a problem.

    We have only to look at the Protect America Act to realize the price we've paid with our personal freedoms.

    We have working people who can't afford health insurance. We don't know what to do with illegals.

    When it came to America's economy, he delivered "no tax increases" but he failed the number crunch game because he wouldn't acknowledge the inflation and unemployment numbers. In doing so, he failed to equate them with the peoples' ability to sustain buying power and recognized too late that the American people were in trouble.
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    surferdude wrote:
    At what price to personal freedoms and the environment?

    Personal freedoms in China were limited before the recent economic boom.
    surferdude wrote:
    Again, at what price to personal freedoms? Do you really think France has a good leader?

    Right, people in Europe aren't free. We're all being controlled by brutal dictators. Seriously, what are you getting at?
    surferdude wrote:
    Their healthcare is falling apart. They don't know what to do with the aboriginals.

    Their health care isn't falling apart. And as far as them not knowing 'what to do with the Aboriginals', what does this have to do with anything? Are the American Indians content?
    surferdude wrote:
    There's so much more to it than having a good economy. If that was the measuring stick then Bush has done a not bad job.

    So America's economy is hunky dory? I don't think so. And I'm not Anti-American. This thread is about the lying greedheads in the U.S government. How about we stick to the topic?
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    What do you think of this Watch How The Cookie Crumbles, does this makes sense to you and could it work in reality?

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    I used to think Americans had been whipped by 9-11 terror confusion into some sort of national stupor. That's not so. We're trapped in a massive spiritual paralysis. Normal people are simply not equipped to deal with remorseless psychopaths. We were not prepared to come face to face with evil, nor to be manipulated by lies and controlled through stark fear. Our refusal to address the mounting list of Bush-Cheney war crimes could be because we cannot force ourselves to admit our "one nation under God" spies upon its citizens, imprisons them without due process, engages in grotesque acts of torture and delights in mass murder. And so we stand here on the precipice of our own destruction, waiting for evil to run its course.

    "When once a republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil."~~- Thomas Jefferson

    Traffic Jam On The Highway To Hell by Sheila Samples

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • melodiousmelodious Posts: 1,719
    ...
    all insanity:
    a derivitive of nature.
    nature is god
    god is love
    love is light
  • redsdiseaseredsdisease Posts: 147
    As angry as we should be as Americans, the rest of the world should be way angrier at us.

    We Americans have a responsibility to do what we can to fix these ills. Voting isn't enough, no electable leader is going to do anything to fix our problems.
    Jimmy Carter has disco fever.
  • melodiousmelodious Posts: 1,719
    redsdisease wrote:
    As angry as we should be as Americans, the rest of the world should be way angrier at us.

    We Americans have a responsibility to do what we can to fix these ills. Voting isn't enough, no electable leader is going to do anything to fix our problems.
    suggestions, questions or concerns?

    peace begins with_in....

    I give you my peace.
    Centered from my Being
    I give you my hope
    Centered from my Heart
    I share with you anything
    With_in my means....
    all insanity:
    a derivitive of nature.
    nature is god
    god is love
    love is light
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