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  • spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    Neo-con hysteria runs rampant in America.

    So true.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    mammasan wrote:
    Do we even know if they are enriching uranium for the purpose of making nuclear weapons? From the last report I heard the Iranian government is cooperating with the IAEA. This leads me to belive that their claims of enriching uranium for energy purposes are probably true.

    So if Iran is cooperating with the IAEA then what is the real reason behind all of this invasion tough talk from the US and UK. Is their an alterior motive behind our desire to invade Iran? Does petro currency mean anything to anyone.


    let's not quibble and allow facts to get in the way.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    spiral out wrote:
    What do you think of the independent?

    The Independent is the best U.K paper in my experience.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Byrnzie wrote:
    The Independent is the best U.K paper in my experience.

    i would iamgine any newspaper robert fisk chooses to grace with his presence would be worth my while.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Aye. I'd even take the Dian'y Express over the Torygraph.

    I still remember being at a - now ex - mates house years ago on a Sunday and he had a copy of the Telegraph. The feature article of one of the sections was entitled 'Tea with Pinochet', and described an afternoon's quaint tea drinking and chit-chat between Margaret Thatcher and Augusto Pinochet whilst Pinochet was 'imprisoned' briefly at some stately mansion somewhere in England. I remember reading it with my mouth open, in awe of it's audaciousness. I the got into an argument with my friend over his buying the Telegraph and I think it was the last time I saw him.
    I've since read of countless examples of where the Telegraph has deliberately lied, smeared people, and twisted the truth to sell it's Tory agenda.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    i would iamgine any newspaper robert fisk chooses to grace with his presence would be worth my while.

    Yeah, true. I did like reading the Guardian for a while but it became a bit skewered and boring. I liked George Monbiot's column in the Guardian. The Independent has bigger balls though.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I still remember being at a - now ex - mates house years ago on a Sunday and he had a copy of the Telegraph. The feature article of one of the sections was entitled 'Tea with Pinochet', and described an afternoon's quaint tea drinking and chit-chat between Margaret Thatcher and Augusto Pinochet whilst Pinochet was 'imprisoned' briefly at some stately mansion somewhere in England. I remember reading it with my mouth open, in awe of it's audaciousness. I the got into an argument with my friend over his buying the Telegraph and I think it was the last time I saw him.
    I've since read of countless examples of where the Telegraph has deliberately lied, smeared people, and twisted the truth to sell it's Tory agenda.

    tea with pinochet? that sounds simply splendid darlings. and so very very civilised. :rolleyes: :D
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Yeah, true. I did like reading the Guardian for a while but it became a bit skewered and boring. I liked George Monbiot's column in the Guardian. The Independent has bigger balls though.

    jeez steve. fisk... monbiot... dissing tea parties with pinochet. be careful or someone may start to think you're a little left of centre. or even worse...one of those god damn socialists. ;):)
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jeez steve. fisk... monbiot... dissing tea parties with pinochet. be careful or someone may start to think you're a little left of centre. or even worse...one of those god damn socialists. ;):)

    Who? Me? :confused:
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Who? Me? :confused:

    the thought never crossed my mind for a second. ;)
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    810wmb wrote:
    if they wanna try, let them

    if terrorist had a nuke, don't you think they would have dropped that on 9/11?

    if iran gets one don't you think they would use it? or put the big threat out?

    sheessh

    If someone threatened you with a knife, wouldn't you want a knife to defend yourself with?
    If someone threatened you with a gun, wouldn't you want a gun to defend yourself with?
    If you were Iranian wouldn't you want to have nuclear weapons, so as to defend yourself against America's threats? North Korea don't fear America. There's a reason for that.
  • spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    Byrnzie wrote:
    The Independent is the best U.K paper in my experience.

    My thoughts exactly.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    If you were Iranian wouldn't you want to have nuclear weapons, so as to defend yourself against America's threats? North Korea don't fear America. There's a reason for that.

    US or Israel have never threatened to use nukes against Iran. even Iran says they dont want them (as weapons). so why are you suggesting its ok for Iran to have them?

    seriously, how bad would you like to see the evil empire get hit with a nuke? you have stated over and over again your all out hatred for america and its citizens. quite sad.

    and North Korea does fear the US. why do you think they just completely gave up their nuke program?? didnt ya hear about it?

    US has been praising the North.
    http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/topstories_story_276065645.html
  • 810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
    jlew24asu wrote:
    US or Israel have never threatened to use nukes against Iran. even Iran says they dont want them (as weapons). so why are you suggesting its ok for Iran to have them?

    seriously, how bad would you like to see the evil empire get hit with a nuke? you have stated over and over again your all out hatred for america and its citizens. quite sad.

    and North Korea does fear the US. why do you think they just completely gave up their nuke program?? didnt ya hear about it?

    US has been praising the North.
    http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/topstories_story_276065645.html

    thanks, i'm a bit late getting to this, my thoughts exactly
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    jlew24asu wrote:
    US or Israel have never threatened to use nukes against Iran. even Iran says they dont want them (as weapons). so why are you suggesting its ok for Iran to have them?

    seriously, how bad would you like to see the evil empire get hit with a nuke? you have stated over and over again your all out hatred for america and its citizens. quite sad.

    and North Korea does fear the US. why do you think they just completely gave up their nuke program?? didnt ya hear about it?

    US has been praising the North.
    http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/topstories_story_276065645.html

    if it is okay for the US and israel to have nuclear weapons why is it not okay for others to have them. you can not say we can but you can't.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    if it is okay for the US and israel to have nuclear weapons why is it not okay for others to have them. you can not say we can but you can't.

    all world leaders agree they shouldnt. thats why.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    jlew24asu wrote:
    all world leaders agree they shouldnt. thats why.

    ALL world leaders huh?


    get rid of ALL nuclear weapons. if you have them they must be destroyed. for me tis that simple. the thought that these weapons exist turns my stomach. any country that aahs them and then says other countries can not have them is a hypocrite. not that hypocrisy by itself has ever killed anyone.


    did you notice how you said, and i quote, "even iran says they don't want them(as weapons)" so why are we having this conversation? if iran has no intention of acquiring nukes then anything we say is moot.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    ALL world leaders huh?
    all the world leaders on the UN security counsel, yes.

    get rid of ALL nuclear weapons. if you have them they must be destroyed. for me tis that simple. the thought that these weapons exist turns my stomach. any country that aahs them and then says other countries can not have them is a hypocrite. not that hypocrisy by itself has ever killed anyone.
    ok

    did you notice how you said, and i quote, "even iran says they don't want them(as weapons)" so why are we having this conversation?

    because you (and others in this thread) are suggesting its ok for Iran to have nuclear weapons.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    jlew24asu wrote:
    because you (and others in this thread) are suggesting its ok for Iran to have nuclear weapons.

    no. what i said was:
    if it is okay for the US and israel to have nuclear weapons why is it not okay for others to have them

    i'm suggesting, and have said before, that NO ONE should have them. as any parent knows the do as i say approach does not work. you must lead by example.
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  • 810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
    iran is run by a nuthead who wants to destroy israel and the u.s...they support hamas and syria..who also want us and israel gone

    russia is backdooring iran..it's so nice

    screw them if they want a nuke...only we should have them...just in case those pesky japs get frisky again.
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:
    seriously, how bad would you like to see the evil empire get hit with a nuke? you have stated over and over again your all out hatred for america and its citizens. quite sad.[/url]

    I'm gonna risk a banning by saying the above comment was clearly written by an idiot.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jlew24asu wrote:

    This isn't a forgone conclusion.
  • If I was Iran, and I wanted to destroy america or israel (and I'm not saying they do). I'd do it with something other than nukes. Something not subjected to as much scrutiny by the international community. Why all the fuss about nukes? They could just as easily (or more easily) be developing chemical or biological weapons without telling anyone about it. . . .

    I've always thought that if the terrorists really want to bring america to its knees all they have to do is figure out a way to cut off the supply of coffee. The american economy would collapse overnight without its caffeine supply. . .
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  • spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    810wmb wrote:
    iran is run by a nuthead who wants to destroy israel and the u.s...they support hamas and syria..who also want us and israel gone

    russia is backdooring iran..it's so nice

    screw them if they want a nuke...only we should have them...just in case those pesky japs get frisky again.

    Wow you say the most intelligent things.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

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  • spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I'm gonna risk a banning by saying the above comment was clearly written by an idiot.

    Thats the sort of questions he asks when he doesn't actually have anything to add to a comment.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

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  • 810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
    spiral out wrote:
    Wow you say the most intelligent things.

    thank you..
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • Byrnzie wrote:
    Yeah, true. I did like reading the Guardian for a while but it became a bit skewered and boring. I liked George Monbiot's column in the Guardian. The Independent has bigger balls though.
    that's cos it's Irish owned :)
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  • jlew24asu wrote:
    all world leaders agree they shouldnt. thats why.
    They don't WANT nuclear weapons and never suggested they did :rolleyes: this is where this conversation gets carried away with itself.
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    that's cos it's Irish owned :)

    wow.. i've heard it all now :D:D
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkman wrote:
    wow.. i've heard it all now :D:D
    dunk... on this one... I'm right :)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_O'Reilly

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_News_%26_Media

    :cool:
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    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
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