Democrats have poor mental health

macgyver06

810wmb wrote:

maybe when the switch parties for ron paul, things will pick up for them..........poor bastards

http://www.gallup.com/poll/102943/Republicans-Report-Much-Better-Mental-Health-Than-Others.aspx

poor bastards...the sad thing is you are being lied to. and you fail to recognize it....just like the citizens of nazi germany you are

poor guy.

810wmb

macgyver06 wrote:

poor bastards...the sad thing is you are being lied to. and you fail to recognize it....just like the citizens of nazi germany you are

poor guy.

hey, wish i could chat, but i gotta go kill some jews

g under p

810wmb wrote:

hey, wish i could chat, but i gotta go kill some jews

That's you to the core, Shalom, Salaam

Peace

810wmb

g under p wrote:

That's you to the core, Shalom, Salaam

Peace

hehehehheehhe

drivingrl

Wow.

1. It's a poll of 4,000 people, and it's being taken seriously?

2. Who paid for this poll? Can we get our money back? I can think of a dozen or so things that are more important to study than how Republicans or Democrats deem their mental health.

OutOfBreath

drivingrl wrote:

Wow.

1. It's a poll of 4,000 people, and it's being taken seriously?

2. Who paid for this poll? Can we get our money back? I can think of a dozen or so things that are more important to study than how Republicans or Democrats deem their mental health.

1. a poll of 4000 can very much be taken seriously, as long as the respondents are properly and randomly picked. Then this would be very thorough as polls go. Polls rarely have more than 1000 respondents.

2. Now that's something else, and I can also think of better things to investigate.

Peace
Dan

mammasan

I think anyone who would pledge loyalty to any political party regardless of the candidate running should have their head examined and question their mental health.

floyd1975

macgyver06 wrote:

poor bastards...the sad thing is you are being lied to. and you fail to recognize it....just like the citizens of nazi germany you are

poor guy.

This post shows the reasoning behind this survey. By comparison, it really is hard for Republicans to not feel good about their mental health.

Uncle Leo

First, "Democrats have poor mental health" is either intentionally misleading or written based on a misinterpretation of the poll.

You could poll people on whether or not they are tall and some 5'11'' people would say that they are and others would say that they are not.

This could be indicitive of any number of things:
1. Sure, it could mean that those polled have a pretty good grasp on their own mental health and that Republicans overall have better mental health than Democrats.

2. It could mean that Republicans are more likely less honest with themselves and more afraid of the stigma of poor mental health.

3. It could mean that Republicans that question their own mental health view a positive, though somewhat dishonest response as the first step in "pulling myself up by my bootstraps."

4. It could mean that Republicans see things totally black and white..."well I'm not seeing a shrink, so my mental health is A-Ok."

5. It could mean that Democrats have taken more psychology courses and have a greater graps of the symptoms of mental health problems.

I don't really know. But one thing I do know is that the thread title is inconsistant with the link.

Uncle Leo

macgyver06 wrote:

poor bastards...the sad thing is you are being lied to. and you fail to recognize it....just like the citizens of nazi germany you are

poor guy.

And by the way, McGyver is not calling 810Wmb a nazi. Read closer.

Thecure

810wmb wrote:

fuck canada

again, you say fuck canada. will you answer why you don't like canada. i have asked you that now 3 times.

drivingrl

OutOfBreath wrote:

1. a poll of 4000 can very much be taken seriously, as long as the respondents are properly and randomly picked. Then this would be very thorough as polls go. Polls rarely have more than 1000 respondents.

It's been a while since I've looked into Gallup's poll-taking methods, so correct me if I'm wrong on this: This poll was most likely taken by telephone. While a good chunk of Americans still have landlines, the younger voters (in their lower 30s and in their 20s) are using primarily cell phones or landlines as a second phone line rather than their primary method of communication.

(I'm going to stop myself before I go off on a tangent about random sampling methods.)

But my point is, doesn't this poll render itself kind of useless when you're talking about taking a sample of people who use landline phones as their means of communication? The younger generations, I would fear, aren't being represented by this poll.

And if that's the case, does the poll really say anything about the population as a total? Other than "the older folk who have landlines and are Republican think they're mentally healthy." ?

LikeAnOcean

SoonForgotten2 wrote:

Perhaps this is due to Republicans not living in reality.

Being neither Republican nor Democrat myself, I would argue Republicans do live in reality, but that reality sucks and Democrats want to make that reality better..

OutOfBreath

drivingrl wrote:

It's been a while since I've looked into Gallup's poll-taking methods, so correct me if I'm wrong on this: This poll was most likely taken by telephone. While a good chunk of Americans still have landlines, the younger voters (in their lower 30s and in their 20s) are using primarily cell phones or landlines as a second phone line rather than their primary method of communication.

(I'm going to stop myself before I go off on a tangent about random sampling methods.)

But my point is, doesn't this poll render itself kind of useless when you're talking about taking a sample of people who use landline phones as their means of communication? The younger generations, I would fear, aren't being represented by this poll.

And if that's the case, does the poll really say anything about the population as a total? Other than "the older folk who have landlines and are Republican think they're mentally healthy." ?

It depends how big of a problem it is. I dont know any stats about american phone usage as pertains to demographics. I know that in Norway the youngest segment will not be reached by landlines much. However, as long as you reach some of them, and explicitly go out and find enough of them for a study, that isn't that much of a problem. Thus, using a stratified selection rather than random selection. That is pretty normal, actually.

But assuming this, is age that big of a factor in the democrat/republican split? I dont know the data, but I would assume there wasn't that much of a gap. But I could be wrong.

Barring sampling errors, and that the demographic spread is adequately covered, then I have no problems with the statistical side of the study. Whether it is at all relevant in the sense that one party's people are different than the other's I dont really know. The study shows that income, church attendance and education have bigger effects than party affiliation, so I am more tempted in locating third variables beyond the ones listed there at the last page, to see if that effect still held, or whether it depends on something else entirely. Age was controlled for, and didn't have much of an impact, btw. Also, in regards to the original angle in this thread, voting democrat has no impact whatsoever, and a regression coefficient close to 0. So that's thoroughly debunked.

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Dan

callen

MrBrian wrote:

where do you rate your own mental health?
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its not a mental health problem with poster...its age.

drivingrl

OutOfBreath wrote:

But assuming this, is age that big of a factor in the democrat/republican split? I dont know the data, but I would assume there wasn't that much of a gap. But I could be wrong.

It shifts, but typically younger voters align themselves with the Democratic party, while older voters align themselves to the Republican party. There are exceptions, but this is the trend.

So if you're sampling from an older population (the part of the population that has landlines), you have the potential of getting an inaccurate glimpse into how this self-perception really flows along party lines. This may not be that big of an issue now, but as generations go by, this definitely will. For example, I only use my mobile phone, so I (and everyone else doesn't have a landline) would not be properly represented in such a survey.

But I still can't get over the reasoning behind taking such a poll. Gallup needs some other things to do.

OutOfBreath

drivingrl wrote:

It shifts, but typically younger voters align themselves with the Democratic party, while older voters align themselves to the Republican party. There are exceptions, but this is the trend.

So if you're sampling from an older population (the part of the population that has landlines), you have the potential of getting an inaccurate glimpse into how this self-perception really flows along party lines. This may not be that big of an issue now, but as generations go by, this definitely will. For example, I only use my mobile phone, so I (and everyone else doesn't have a landline) would not be properly represented in such a survey.

But I still can't get over the reasoning behind taking such a poll. Gallup needs some other things to do.

Well, as you said, it's not that big a problem now, but will certainly be in the future. These things will probably gradually shift over to mail and mobile in time. Age was factored in, and wasn't that big a factor. But since the demography of the study weren't presented, it's hard to have a real opinion on this.

Gallup could well need other things to do.

Peace
Dan

drivingrl

OutOfBreath wrote:

Well, as you said, it's not that big a problem now, but will certainly be in the future. These things will probably gradually shift over to mail and mobile in time. Age was factored in, and wasn't that big a factor. But since the demography of the study weren't presented, it's hard to have a real opinion on this.

Gallup could well need other things to do.

Peace
Dan

Sorry for taking this so off-topic. But thanks, Dan, for your replies!

Ahnimus

Republican states have higher incidences of death from alzheimer's disease.

Another useless tabloid.