Debunking the 9/11 *Anti-No-Plane-Theory* Myths

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Debunking the 9/11 *Anti-No-Plane-Theory* Myths

by CB_Brooklyn


From the moment people thought that planes crashed in the World Trade Center, the brainwashing had begun.

The “official” account of Boeing 767s striking the North and South Towers, at 400+MPH and 500+MPH respectively, became glued in peoples’ minds as “fact” because of the “tee-vee”. Good ol’ tee-vee. We all trust the media.

Even in 1938, when Orson Welles directed a special Halloween radio broadcast of the novel “War of the Worlds”, millions of Americans believed Martians were invading earth. Everyone trusts the media! (As a side note, I’d like to advertise a new article by Andrew Johnson: “Mars Anomalies”)

It should come to no surprise how the media affects peoples’ minds and our culture, and the media’s reporting of 9/11 is no exception.

The 9/11 coverup perpetrators had their deceptive propaganda well planned. With their total control over the media they successfully conditioned most into believing their “19 boxcutter-wielding Muslims” story. People were overwhelmed; their brains saturated with the propaganda.

November 10, 2001 - George W Bush brainwashes the world into thinking the idea of “inside job” is crazy: ”Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th; malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the terrorists, themselves, away from the guilty.”
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/11/20011110-3.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K5M0xtxQVQ

But the propaganda didn’t stop there. The coverup perps, the experts they are, knew some people would see through their “boxcutter” deception, so they crafted an alternate propaganda… specifically targeting those already suspicious of the “official” story.

Lenin, the first Communist dictator after the takeover of Russia in 1917, is widely credited with the following quotation, "The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves."
http://www.realnews247.com/fascism_disguised_at_democracy.htm

This alternate propaganda is promoted by government plants within the “truth movement”, along with its fabricated evidence (such as molten metal). Of course, the media carefully publicize this “evidence” as a “wacky conspiracy theory”…

November 14, 2005 - Tucker Carlson brainwashes the world into thinking the idea of an “inside job” theory is offensive. Steven Jones promotes the “alternate propaganda”:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10053445


Yet, the coverup perpetrators use ridicule to keep the “REAL” version hidden…

December 6, 2006 - Steven E Jones brainwashes the 9/11 “truth movement” into thinking the idea of directed energy weapons and no planes is “crazy disinfo”: “Of late, [Jim Fetzer] refers often to his association now with Judy Wood and Morgan Reynolds. These two are noted for their no-planes-hit-the-Towers theories and for promoting the notion of ray-beams from space knocking down the Towers.”
http://judicial-inc.biz/Steven_Jones_quits_911.htm

Jones is one of many in and around the “truth movement” associated with Los Alamos where Directed Energy Weapons are researched. See here to learn how the 9/11 attacks, the 9/11 cover up, and the 9/11 "truth movement" were orchestrated by people associated with directed energy weapons and the media. Jones also suppressed free energy research in ways that mirror his 9/11 coverup:

9/11 Directed Energy Weapon / TV-Fakery Suppression Timeline
By CB_Brooklyn
http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=151&Itemid=60

Timeline of Events Involving Steve Jones, Crockett Grabbe and Steve Koonin
By Russ Gerst
http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=162&Itemid=60


If no-planes/TV-Fakery were “crazy disinfo”, why didn’t the media use it to discredit the “truth movement”? Here’s a video of Dr Morgan Reynolds on FOX News: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reQZT9Hzvt8

Certainly if no-planes/TV-Fakery were “crazy disinfo”, the media would have invited Dr Reynolds back. Why didn’t they?

On top of that, why didn’t the media report Reynolds’ or Wood’s court cases, represented by Attorney Jerry Leaphart?

Dr Morgan Reynolds, suing on behalf of the United States of America and demanding a Trial by Jury, has evidence that the Media broadcasted cartoons of an airplane hitting the South Tower.
http://nomoregames.net/index.php?page=911&subpage1=federal_case

Docket No. 1:07-cv-04612-GBD
Title: Dr. Morgan Reynolds ex rel. USA vs. Science Applications International Corp. et al.
Venue: United States District Court, Southern District of New York
Judge: George B. Daniels


Dr Judy Wood, suing on behalf of the United States of America and demanding a Trial by Jury, has evidence that Directed Energy Weapons were a causal factor in the destruction of the World Trade Center.
http://drjudywood.com/articles/NIST/Qui_Tam_Wood.html

Docket No. 1:07-cv-03314-GBD
Title: Dr. Judy Wood ex rel. USA vs. Applied Research Associates, Inc. et al.
Venue: United States District Court, Southern District of New York
Judge: George B. Daniels

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UPDATE!!! While composing this article the author became aware of the following:

New York Times
“For Engineer, a Cloud of Litigation After 9/11”
By Jim Dwyer
February 23, 2008

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/23/nyregion/23about.htm


The relevant quote is as follows (emphasis added):

”… one man has sued on behalf of the United States, claiming that Mr. Gilsanz is part of a vast conspiracy to cover up the truth about 9/11, including the “so-called building failures.” The lawsuit maintains that exotic weaponry actually destroyed the buildings, and that the airplanes were mass psychological trickery.”


Wood and Reynolds have filed two separate lawsuits.

No mention of Wood/Reynolds/Leaphart’s names in the Times article.

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Let us review…

The media (i.e. MSNBC):
promote the “official” version as “the truth”
ridicule the “alternate” version as the “offensive wacky conspiracy theory”
shun the “REAL” version and court cases

Plants in the ”truth movement” (i.e. Steven Jones):
promote the “alternate” version as “the truth”
ridicule the “REAL” version as “offensive wacky conspiracy theory”



We can now understand why many “truthers” shy away from no-planes/TV-Fakery. Seems the 9/11 coverup perps tricked the “truth movement” with a well orchestrated plan of deception! Will these theories really “damage” the “truth movement”, or has the movement merely been tricked into thinking so?

Many “truthers” often wonder why the mainstream media hasn’t broken the “inside job” story yet. The reason is simple: The 9/11 perps have not been exposed. (Check the “Suppression Timeline” linked above.)

Only after the real 9/11 perpetrators are widely exposed with the media break!

Will “truthers” finally start promoting no-planes/TV-Fakery? If the “truth movement” can’t admit their mistakes, why should the average person? People will simply continue believing what they feel most comfortable with: the “boxcutter” story. They don’t care about the evidence. Why should they? After all, the “truth movement” doesn’t. Or do they???


How many “truthers” have looked at the no-planes/TV-Fakery evidence lately… evidence that anyone can understand?

Below you will find a ton of evidence. Look it through… you maybe surprised!

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  • What happened to the passengers on the planes?
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    I can believe the lie that they shot down the plane over Penn, BUT THAT IS THE ONLY LIE I AM WILLING TO BELIEVE! :rolleyes: ;)
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    What if someone who lost a relative or friend on one of those planes were to come here and read this garbage?
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • brain of cbrain of c Posts: 5,213
    you are a nut. does your doctor know you're out of your room and on the internet?
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    You watch before the day's out we'll more than 1 page of responses to this. This subject always seem to garner interest, always.

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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    even flow? wrote:
    I can believe the lie that they shot down the plane over Penn, BUT THAT IS THE ONLY LIE I AM WILLING TO BELIEVE! :rolleyes: ;)

    That's exactly my point of view. The only other thing that makes me question the events is WTC 7 just falling down. But all this nonsense just makes people look crazy.
  • This guy is a fucking CIA Counter Intelligence Program shill!

    This "Cartoon Plane" crap is meant only to debase the 911 Truth movement and make us all look nuts.

    Oh, and when he gets responses like mine, he adds us to his fucking data base.

    Go away you Cointel POS.

    Every post you make ... all whopping 9 of them, i think like 7 of them are about cartoon planes.

    Give it a fucking rest.

    The REAL Truth?
    Loose Change: Final Cut

    They really got their shit together after 6 years of work.
    The new movie BANG spot on!
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  • Just watch this ONE segment, 10 minutes.

    Hmm.
    Didn't know WTC was hit, huh?

    WTF was that FAA radarman on about then, huh?
    "My pet goat"?

    :rolleyes:
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • jeffbr wrote:

    is this the ONLY page on "screwloosechange" that has any info on it?

    Because if it is it is NOT a debunking at all.

    He attacks 2 quotes made in 2 hours of a movie.
    ???

    WTF.
    Where's the beef?

    How about all the problems with NORADs claims?

    How about almost all of the hijackers being trained at government bases? Being forced to be let in through border security?

    How about all the comments from flight school instructors saying the guy that made the military grade maneuvuer in to the pentagon couldn't even fly a prop-plane?

    How about ANY substantive debunking period?

    ???
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  • acoustic guyacoustic guy Posts: 3,770
    Either you are completely ignorant? Or you are the most naive person ever.
    My close personal friend watch the second plane hit with her own two eyes.
    What the hell are you talking about?
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  • Either you are completely ignorant? Or you are the most naive person ever.
    My close personal friend watch the second plane hit with her own two eyes.
    What the hell are you talking about?
    Get a job. Get a spouse. Get a life.
    This guy is a fucking CIA Counter Intelligence Program shill!

    This "Cartoon Plane" crap is meant only to debase the 911 Truth movement and make us all look nuts.

    Oh, and when he gets responses like mine, he adds us to his fucking data base.

    Go away you Cointel POS.

    Every post you make ... all whopping 9 of them, i think like 7 of them are about cartoon planes.

    Give it a fucking rest.

    The REAL Truth?
    Loose Change: Final Cut

    They really got their shit together after 6 years of work.
    The new movie BANG spot on!


    Need to just sticky my response above this guys original post.

    He ONLY posts "cartoon planes" posts.
    He is government cointel.

    The government has ADMITTED they have dozens of paid staffers that do NOTHING except SURF THE INTERNET AND POST BULLSHIT to derail the opposition. Except they try to say they generaly surf arab-language websites. Yeah right. But they have no problem "wire tapping" every american and recording EVERY conversation in the country?
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    But they have no problem "wire tapping" every american and recording EVERY conversation in the country?

    Do you really think that is the case? You think they've got tape of my wife telling me to go get some bread last night?
  • Pools of molten melted steel that remained well over temperatures of what kerosene can even produce for several weeks afterwards. Kerosene is not capable of melting steel in the first place.

    That's a pretty interesting situation to have happen. Just the very tip of the iceberg of highly suspicious circumstances in this situation.

    #7 falling perfectly uniform straight down ...whoosh...however the damage was anything but uniform.

    When did thick steel reinforced beams become these flimsy little super unreliable pixie sticks susceptible to a little bit of flame?
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  • Do you really think that is the case? You think they've got tape of my wife telling me to go get some bread last night?


    It's all recorded and archived, so is the internet actually, speech and word recognition software discerns whatever patterns they desire to look for so operators can automatically be patched into your call and listen to what you are saying. They can then dump all this info into a database to profile people if they want.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • It's all recorded and archived, so is the internet actually, speech and word recognition software discerns whatever patterns they desire to look for so operators can automatically be patched into your call and listen to what you are saying. They can then dump all this info into a database to profile people if they want.

    LedVed, he is right.

    The government has admitted they record EVERYTHING. Since at least 2001. One telecom company chief came forward saying he was asked six months BEFORE 911 to help with the effort. When he said "it sounds illegal" the Bush Admin pulled millions of dollars of contract offers to his firm.

    They record EVERYTHING, all internet sites you visit, and all of your email.

    Like Roland said, it is all keyword searchable. The phone calls too.

    An Israeli firm is responsible for the recording itself.

    I think they said AT&T and another large carrier have like a mega computer mainframe that captures it all and forwards its all to NSA and this Israeli firm (can't remember the name).
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    LedVed, he is right.

    The government has admitted they record EVERYTHING. Since at least 2001. One telecom company chief came forward saying he was asked six months BEFORE 911 to help with the effort. When he said "it sounds illegal" the Bush Admin pulled millions of dollars of contract offers to his firm.

    They record EVERYTHING, all internet sites you visit, and all of your email.

    Like Roland said, it is all keyword searchable. The phone calls too.

    An Israeli firm is responsible for the recording itself.

    I think they said AT&T and another large carrier have like a mega computer mainframe that captures it all and forwards its all to NSA and this Israeli firm (can't remember the name).

    Interesting. I'll have to look into that.
  • Interesting. I'll have to look into that.

    My buddy and i talk on the phone about conspiracy theory and alex jones and shit for i'd say an hour a day at least, conservatively.

    We make it a point to have a "moment of hate" type interlude every once and a while, when we realize we've said something like "bioweapons" or "nuclear bomb" a few times, we will just go all out triggering their software by each mouthing off with like

    "CIA CIA CIA, OSAMA BIN LADEN, FBI, NUCLEAR BOMB, TERRORIST TERROR TERRORISM, NEW YORK CITY, FEDERAL RESERVE, BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS, ANTHRAX, AFGHANISTAN, AIRPLANE TICKET, ASSASSINATION, PRESIDENT, CIA CIA, A MILLION DOLLARS, WIRE THE MONEY"

    :D:D:D
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  • Regardless of all this 9/11 stuff, if they had just come out and said "oil is seriously running out, and alternate energy is a bust. We ultimately must go solar as the solution, but that is not within our means at the present time without seriously disrupting all of society. We need to secure oil in other countries because we have none left to carry on. "

    That I would believe, and looking at he alternative keep quiet about, however Iraq and entry into the middle east wouldn't be allowed to happen going on those premises.

    The oil situation is seriously some scary shit.

    9/11 was done to preserve the US from running out of oil, as it's getting down to the wire. No oil = CHAOS. The US has none left really....Canada is dredging it out of sand which takes more energy in natural gas then you get in oil.

    It's getting desperate, and 9/11 was a method of counter acting this predicament. It's a hard decision to make, but the alternative is far worse. It would make the great depression look like a picnic.

    That's my take.

    edit: I should add I think the alternative of going to solar would be less of a problem when you add up the patriot acts, the cost of the war etc... It's by far an end of the world panic scenario....
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • My buddy and i talk on the phone about conspiracy theory and alex jones and shit for i'd say an hour a day at least, conservatively.

    We make it a point to have a "moment of hate" type interlude every once and a while, when we realize we've said something like "bioweapons" or "nuclear bomb" a few times, we will just go all out triggering their software by each mouthing off with like

    "CIA CIA CIA, OSAMA BIN LADEN, FBI, NUCLEAR BOMB, TERRORIST TERROR TERRORISM, NEW YORK CITY, FEDERAL RESERVE, BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS, ANTHRAX, AFGHANISTAN, AIRPLANE TICKET, ASSASSINATION, PRESIDENT, CIA CIA, A MILLION DOLLARS, WIRE THE MONEY"

    :D:D:D

    You need to toss in more Allāhu Akbar's every so often....that's will keep them busy...hehe
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • You need to toss in more Allāhu Akbar's every so often....that's will keep them busy...hehe

    roflmao.
    :D
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  • My Boss lost his son on one of those flights. I don't think your random quotes would get anywhere with him.
    9/7/98, 8/3/00, 9/4/00, 4/15/03, 7/1/03, 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 5/24/06, 5/25/06, 6/17/08, 6/22/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 5/17/10, 10/15/13, 10/16/13.
  • My Boss lost his son on one of those flights. I don't think your random quotes would get anywhere with him.

    Sorry for his loss.
    Just FYI, i'm pretty sure like 95% (or more) of all 911 Truthers believe that the planes were real as can be.

    They just have serious questions about the US Governments level of involvement in those events. There are dozens upon dozens of glaring inconsitencies that point to government involvement.

    From what i understand one of the largest Family of 911 Victims groups in the country has over 75% of their members being under the belief that the government was complicit.

    ?
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  • MasterFramerMasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    Do you really think that is the case? You think they've got tape of my wife telling me to go get some bread last night?

    You think they dont? :) Seriously though, they can record anything they want to at this point. Doesnt mean they are going to listen to it. That's the computer's job.



    Drifting Im having a hard time following you here and I think others are too. Your OP is WAY too confusing to read.

    People in the governemnt are making up 9/11 stories, like there were no planes, to make the 9/11 truth movement seem even more crazy?

    Why would you post this of all things to get people to listen to you on this subject?

    Post some credible info on Building 7, pretty hard to ignore those facts. This stuff? Just turns people off man.
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  • Drifting Im having a hard time following you here and I think others are too. Your OP is WAY too confusing to read.

    People in the governemnt are making up 9/11 stories, like there were no planes, to make the 9/11 truth movement seem even more crazy?

    Why would you post this of all things to get people to listen to you on this subject?

    Yes.
    That is what i'm saying.

    It is called COUNTER INTELLIGENCE (CoIntelPro) ... and its standard proceedure for government spooks to spread DISINFORMATION to muddle the opposition's arguments. They can't attack the real argument (because, IMHO, 911 Conspiracy is real, and there are NO credible sites debunking it ... try looking, its pretty sad) ... so they build FAKE arguments that are just plane fucking stupid ... and they spread them to give the real truthers a bad name.

    Like i said, the government ADMITS they have paid spooks who troll the internet posting bogus bullshit both to trap bad guys and also just to spread disinfo. Its admitted, not some stupid theory of mine.

    I have no idea about this OP here, but he ONLY posts this post, repeatedly. Look at his history.

    ANd he NEVER responds.

    Fishy, huh?
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  • I have no idea about this OP here, but he ONLY posts this post, repeatedly. Look at his history.

    ANd he NEVER responds.

    Fishy, huh?

    Here are his posts, ALL HIGHLY RIDICULOUS "911 TRUTH" CLAIMS, THAT NO ONE IN THE REAL TRUTH MOMVEMENT SUGGESTS:

    9/11 DEW / TV-Fakery Suppression Timeline
    Views: 248 Posted By CB_Brooklyn
    I find it quite interesting that many well known...

    I find it quite interesting that many well known people within the "truth movement" have affiliations with DEWs, such as Bob Bowman. And some of them speak up against DEWs, such as Steven Jones and...
    Forum: A Moving Train 11-27-2007, 10:08 PM
    Replies: 18 9/11 DEW / TV-Fakery Suppression Timeline
    Views: 248 Posted By CB_Brooklyn
    9/11 DEW / TV-Fakery Suppression Timeline

    9/11 Directed Energy Weapon / TV-Fakery Suppression Timeline

    By CB_Brooklyn


    Lenin, the first Communist dictator after the takeover of Russia in 1917, is widely credited with the following...
    Forum: A Moving Train 10-15-2007, 02:03 AM
    Replies: 28 US District Court Unseals Second 9/11 'Inside Job' Case
    Views: 479 Posted By CB_Brooklyn
    Regarding the Global Elite's agenda, the answer...

    Regarding the Global Elite's agenda, the answer is yes.


    Their agenda: http://www.911researchers.com/node/439

    Check out how George Bush Sr called for a New World Order on September 11, 1990:
    Forum: A Moving Train 10-14-2007, 02:39 PM
    Replies: 28 US District Court Unseals Second 9/11 'Inside Job' Case
    Views: 479 Posted By CB_Brooklyn
    US District Court Unseals Second 9/11 'Inside Job' Case

    US District Court Unseals Second 9/11 ‘Inside Job’ Case

    Developments regarding Dr Judy Wood, a former Professor of Mechanical Engineering from Clemson University, and Dr Morgan Reynolds, the former...
    Forum: A Moving Train 07-20-2007, 12:12 PM
    Replies: 12 Government Official Says 9/11 Directed Energy Weapon Research "Worthy"
    Views: 176 Posted By CB_Brooklyn
    Yep :) I noticed Dr Wood's work discussed here a...

    Yep :) I noticed Dr Wood's work discussed here a few days ago and wanted to give some further information.


    Some may be interested in this 25 minute documentary:

    Star Wars in...
    Forum: A Moving Train 07-20-2007, 09:12 AM
    Replies: 12 Government Official Says 9/11 Directed Energy Weapon Research "Worthy"
    Views: 176 Posted By CB_Brooklyn
    Some Evidence for Weapons using Energy that is Directed on 9/11

    Some Evidence for Weapons using Energy that is Directed on 9/11




    Round cylindrical holes in WTC 5 and WTC 6: [Picture]...
    Forum: A Moving Train 07-20-2007, 08:31 AM
    Replies: 12 Government Official Says 9/11 Directed Energy Weapon Research "Worthy"
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  • Dustin51Dustin51 Posts: 222
    Regardless of all this 9/11 stuff, if they had just come out and said "oil is seriously running out, and alternate energy is a bust. We ultimately must go solar as the solution, but that is not within our means at the present time without seriously disrupting all of society. We need to secure oil in other countries because we have none left to carry on. "

    I attempted to pose that same question on a thread not to long ago but I mustve worded it weird because no one really picked up on what I was asking. But seriously I think you make a great point. What would Americans reaction be to our government issuing that statement? It's a point I find incredibly interesting and would love to see a long debate around.
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  • acoustic guyacoustic guy Posts: 3,770
    Regardless of all this 9/11 stuff, if they had just come out and said "oil is seriously running out, and alternate energy is a bust. We ultimately must go solar as the solution, but that is not within our means at the present time without seriously disrupting all of society. We need to secure oil in other countries because we have none left to carry on. "

    That I would believe, and looking at he alternative keep quiet about, however Iraq and entry into the middle east wouldn't be allowed to happen going on those premises.

    The oil situation is seriously some scary shit.

    9/11 was done to preserve the US from running out of oil, as it's getting down to the wire. No oil = CHAOS. The US has none left really....Canada is dredging it out of sand which takes more energy in natural gas then you get in oil.

    It's getting desperate, and 9/11 was a method of counter acting this predicament. It's a hard decision to make, but the alternative is far worse. It would make the great depression look like a picnic.

    That's my take.

    edit: I should add I think the alternative of going to solar would be less of a problem when you add up the patriot acts, the cost of the war etc... It's by far an end of the world panic scenario....


    yea, the oil situation scares me more then the wars and global warming. it is completely real and very scary.
    I watch several programs on Discovery and comething else about this.
    It makes me worried for my children.
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  • "CB_Brooklyn" google it...

    here we have someone repeating an obvious pattern on MANY (hundreds) of various forums on the internet. It would have to be a full time extended hours job to hit all the websites this guy is hitting and posting on...pages and pages of google hits from this guy posting the same bullshit 9/11 theories.

    See for yourself...

    http://clubconspiracy.com/forum/search.php?searchid=5260

    http://tvguide.liveworld.com/profile.jspa?userID=800040082

    http://www.netscape.com/member/cb_brooklyn/

    http://letters.salon.com/d437fa104d374fefc952d49d0adb48a6/author/

    and it just keeps going.....

    http://www.ballot.com/hotwire/search.php?searchid=316299

    http://www.peakoilstore.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=5462;sa=showPosts

    He/she/it keeps going on the Judy Wood directed energy weapons, fake cartoon airplanes, or no airplanes...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • "CB_Brooklyn" google it...

    Wow.
    NO SHIT.

    THIRTY FUCKING PAGES OF GOOGLE HITS

    ALL BULLSHIT!

    I see a couple in there like "Who is this CB_Brooklyn, and WHO CARES?" ... lol

    You're right. We're right.
    We've called this guy out before.
    OBVIOUS CoIntelPro BULLSHIT!
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
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