Question on drugs/the economy

SilverSeedSilverSeed Posts: 336
edited February 2008 in A Moving Train
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/02/28/prison.population.ap/index.html

This article got me thinking.

Is there any singular thing the U.S. could do to help the economy more than legalizing marijuana? Immediately spending (via the war on drugs) would be cut drastically. Taxes on the now legal, regulated marijuana would be enormous. How many hundreds of thouands of inmates would be let go? More tax savings...

Some may say end the war, but war in general is great for an economy. I really believe a lot of our economic issues could be, if not solved, at least lessened by this one action.

Thoughts?
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  • Dustin51Dustin51 Posts: 222
    SilverSeed wrote:
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/02/28/prison.population.ap/index.html

    This article got me thinking.

    Is there any singular thing the U.S. could do to help the economy more than legalizing marijuana? Immediately spending (via the war on drugs) would be cut drastically. Taxes on the now legal, regulated marijuana would be enormous. How many hundreds of thouands of inmates would be let go? More tax savings...

    Some may say end the war, but war in general is great for an economy. I really believe a lot of our economic issues could be, if not solved, at least lessened by this one action.

    Thoughts?

    Brother...I 100% agree with you.
    Be excellent to each other
  • brain of cbrain of c Posts: 5,213
    make it so.
  • Dustin51 wrote:
    Brother...I 100% agree with you.

    Thanks, nice sig man.
    When Jesus said "Love your enemies" he probably didn't mean kill them...

    "Sometimes I think I'd be better off dead. No, wait, not me, you." -Deep Toughts, Jack Handy
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    you should ask the pharmaceutical and alcohol lobbies.....they probably have a different view on the matter...
  • so say we all.
  • Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    SilverSeed wrote:


    While I think this is an idea that at least deserves a lot of study (the only flaw I see at the moment is that there isn't a Breathalyzer for being high while driving) I don't think the taxes thing would really be that much of an impact. I mean if you look at it one way, if you are a big time drug dealer you are probably already laundering your money at which point you are paying taxes on it. Say for example I am a drug supplier. One week I make a million dollars selling drugs. But I can't go and deposit a million dollars worth of drug money in my chequing account, so instead I buy a cash only business like a copy shop or a car wash. At that point my million dollars worth of illegal drug money, becomes a million dollars worth of legal car wash revenue (minus my income tax and any sales tax I would have to show). Plus from what I understand to launder money you typically run it through a couple of different business so it is harder to trace, and if that is the case you are paying income tax on it a couple of times over. So if someone could legally claim that million dollars worth of drug money on their income tax they would be paying the same thing, if not less because they are only claiming the money once.

    As far as cops go I think at minimum they should concentrate on what I think they call force deployment, where since you have a limited police force you decide which crimes are the biggest focus. I mean for an extreme example if you had a town with 1 cop would you prefer that they spent all their time arresting people for getting high, or arresting a serial killing or rapist. I think in most places there are more criminals than cops, so they should put the priorities on the more sever crimes.
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    SilverSeed wrote:
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/02/28/prison.population.ap/index.html

    This article got me thinking.

    Is there any singular thing the U.S. could do to help the economy more than legalizing marijuana? Immediately spending (via the war on drugs) would be cut drastically. Taxes on the now legal, regulated marijuana would be enormous. How many hundreds of thouands of inmates would be let go? More tax savings...

    Some may say end the war, but war in general is great for an economy. I really believe a lot of our economic issues could be, if not solved, at least lessened by this one action.

    Thoughts?

    We may differ on some issues, but I'm right with you on this one.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    SilverSeed wrote:
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/02/28/prison.population.ap/index.html

    This article got me thinking.

    Is there any singular thing the U.S. could do to help the economy more than legalizing marijuana? Immediately spending (via the war on drugs) would be cut drastically. Taxes on the now legal, regulated marijuana would be enormous. How many hundreds of thouands of inmates would be let go? More tax savings...

    Some may say end the war, but war in general is great for an economy. I really believe a lot of our economic issues could be, if not solved, at least lessened by this one action.

    Thoughts?

    Refunding everyone's 2007 taxes in their entirety would go a long way. Combine that with permanent tax cuts and making government a whole lot smaller and our economy would be back on its feet.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

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  • Dustin51Dustin51 Posts: 222
    While I think this is an idea that at least deserves a lot of study (the only flaw I see at the moment is that there isn't a Breathalyzer for being high while driving)

    Does anyone else care if stoners are driving? There isnt a test like this right now and cops still make a determination on it so in my opinion I could care less about the whole stoners driving thing but I'm sure some people would disagree.
    Be excellent to each other
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    While I think this is an idea that at least deserves a lot of study (the only flaw I see at the moment is that there isn't a Breathalyzer for being high while driving).
    ...
    Yes there is. Have the cop dangle a bag of Doritos in front of him.
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    know1 wrote:
    Refunding everyone's 2007 taxes in their entirety would go a long way. Combine that with permanent tax cuts and making government a whole lot smaller and our economy would be back on its feet.

    it's not going to happen in one sweeping bill. why not start chipping away at the budget and governmental involvement in our lives one sensible battle at a time? today, pot. tomorrow, department of education. etc etc.
  • Dustin51 wrote:
    Does anyone else care if stoners are driving? There isnt a test like this right now and cops still make a determination on it so in my opinion I could care less about the whole stoners driving thing but I'm sure some people would disagree.


    I disagree. If you're smoking pot, you should not drive. They need to develop some sort of on-the-spot marijuana test. I would be happy to see marijuana legalized as long as we tax the shit out of it.
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  • leethalleethal Posts: 134
    In Queensland, Australia the police recently started doing drug driving tests. They are done with a swab on the tounge. They are more expensive then a breathilizer for dui's so they are less common. I smoke pot but and strongly support drug driving tests. The only thing i am not sure of are the penalties with relation to normal drunk driving offences. (In my view driving drunk is more dangerous.)

    As for the legalizing marijuana. Apart from the taxation benefits i've heard of many uses for hemp. I'm sure other people on the board could elaborate. Naturally the first step to all this would be peer reviewed scientific research the obstacle of course being government approval.
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