Obama haters?
j3trowkill
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I'm sorry for 4 years that is coming!
You can always pretend that you live in 1800's!
You can always pretend that you live in 1800's!
"I had a false belief
I thought I came here to stay
We're all just visiting
All just breaking like waves.."
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I thought I came here to stay
We're all just visiting
All just breaking like waves.."
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Bwahahaha! I'm pretty sure some of 'em are on their way to Home Depot to start building one!
I thought I came here to stay
We're all just visiting
All just breaking like waves.."
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07/10/06
07/15/06
· Pro Afghan war (want to send more troops)
· Pro NATO (will increase members)
· Backed Georgia's attack (gave them a billion dollars)
· Voted to fund the Iraq war (gave up hundreds of billions)
· Voted to keep the Patriot Act and FISA
· Will keep bases and troops in Iraq
· Threaten Iran, Syria, and Pakistan
· Will keep spending trillions (no plan to pay the debt)
· Will keep the FED, IMF, Dept of HS, and World Bank
CHANGE....yeah....look at that change...
WOW!
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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well if it's your fault what punishment do you deserve what are you sorry for ? and what kind of crystal ball do you have can it tell us when & how good the next PEARL JAM lp will be ..
Too bad there were enough idiots that voted yes.
I thought I came here to stay
We're all just visiting
All just breaking like waves.."
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07/10/06
07/15/06
My friend.
You really need to stop twisting history around.
First of all The Patriot Act was passed 2 years before Obama joined the Senate.
Secondly, He made the following statement on the floor urging President Bush and his fellow members on the floor to pass ammendments necessary to adhere to the original plan and vision of the bill which was meant to provide security to the American People as opposed to the Bill that Bush and the House Republican's manipulated to twist the bill into the invasive and unconstitutional bill that we all recognize it as today.
History tells us as evidenced by PRESIDENT Obama's statement below that the original Patriot Act was something much different before Bush and his cronies got a hold of it.
http://obama.senate.gov/speech/060216-floor_statement_2/
Mr. President,
four years ago, following one of the most devastating attacks in our nation's history, Congress passed the USA PATRIOT Act to give our nation's law enforcement the tools they needed to track down terrorists who plot and lurk within our own borders and all over the world - terrorists who, right now, are looking to exploit weaknesses in our laws and our security to carry out even deadlier attacks than we saw on September 11th.
We all agreed that we needed legislation to make it harder for suspected terrorists to go undetected in this country. Americans everywhere wanted that.
But soon after the PATRIOT Act passed, a few years before I ever arrived in the Senate, I began hearing concerns from people of every background and political leaning that this law didn't just provide law enforcement the powers it needed to keep us safe, but powers it didn't need to invade our privacy without cause or suspicion.
Now, at times this issue has tended to degenerate into an "either-or" type of debate. Either we protect our people from terror or we protect our most cherished principles. But that is a false choice. It asks too little of us and assumes too little about America.
Fortunately, last year, the Senate recognized that this was a false choice. We put patriotism before partisanship and engaged in a real, open, and substantive debate about how to fix the PATRIOT Act. And Republicans and Democrats came together to propose sensible improvements to the Act. Unfortunately, the House was resistant to these changes, and that's why we're voting on the compromise before us.
Let me be clear: this compromise is not as good as the Senate version of the bill, nor is it as good as the SAFE Act that I have cosponsored. I suspect the vast majority of my colleagues on both sides of the aisle feel the same way. But, it's still better than what the House originally proposed.
This compromise does modestly improve the PATRIOT Act by strengthening civil liberties protections without sacrificing the tools that law enforcement needs to keep us safe. In this compromise:
We strengthened judicial review of both National Security Letters, the administrative subpoenas used by the FBI, and Section 215 orders, which can be used to obtain medical, financial and other personal records.
We established hard time limits on sneak-and-peak searches and limits on roving wiretaps.
We protected most libraries from being subject to National Security Letters.
We preserved an individual's right to seek counsel and hire an attorney without fearing the FBI's wrath.
And we allowed judicial review of the gag orders that accompany Section 215 searches.
The compromise is far from perfect. I would have liked to see stronger judicial review of National Security Letters and shorter time limits on sneak and peak searches, among other things.
Sen. Feingold has proposed several sensible amendments - that I support - to address these issues. Unfortunately, the Majority Leader is preventing Sen. Feingold from offering these amendments through procedural tactics. That is regrettable because it flies in the face of the bipartisan cooperation that allowed the Senate to pass unanimously its version of the Patriot Act - a version that balanced security and civil liberties, partisanship and patriotism.
The Majority Leader's tactics are even more troubling because we will need to work on a bipartisan basis to address national security challenges in the weeks and months to come. In particular, members on both sides of the aisle will need to take a careful look at President Bush's use of warrantless wiretaps and determine the right balance between protecting our security and safeguarding our civil liberties. This is a complex issue. But only by working together and avoiding election-year politicking will we be able to give our government the necessary tools to wage the war on terror without sacrificing the rule of law.
So, I will be supporting the Patriot Act compromise. But I urge my colleagues to continue working on ways to improve the civil liberties protections in the Patriot Act after it is reauthorized.
I thank the chair and yield the floor.
Can't say how good, that's subjective. However, one of the members said they hope to have it out by late Spring to early Summer. Save your vacation time.
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"We've laid the groundwork. It's like planting the seeds. And next year, it's spring." - Nader
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Prepare for tending to your garden, America.
Thank you, Roland. There are few of us who will fault him for these things. I'm glad you don't back down.
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"We've laid the groundwork. It's like planting the seeds. And next year, it's spring." - Nader
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Prepare for tending to your garden, America.