The Last Good Campaign: Bobby Kennedy, 1968

sweetpotatosweetpotato Posts: 1,278
edited May 2008 in A Moving Train
“... But these are not ordinary times and this is not an ordinary election. At stake is not simply the leadership of our party and even our country. It is our right to the moral leadership of this planet.”
~RFK

A sentiment as relevant today as it was then.

Cover story, new issue of Vanity Fair:

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/06/rfk_excerpt200806
"Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."

"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore

"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
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  • Heineken HelenHeineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    “... But these are not ordinary times and this is not an ordinary election. At stake is not simply the leadership of our party and even our country. It is our right to the moral leadership of this planet.”
    ~RFK

    A sentiment as relevant today as it was then.

    Cover story, new issue of Vanity Fair:

    http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/06/rfk_excerpt200806
    Huh???? Ok, I know it's the excuse often given for starting wars and stuff... but do you guys REALLY think you're the MORAL leaders of the planet? :D:D:D

    Hahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    But oh dear, it's worse than we thought :o Now they're starting to believe their own lies.
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • sweetpotatosweetpotato Posts: 1,278
    Huh???? Ok, I know it's the excuse often given for starting wars and stuff... but do you guys REALLY think you're the MORAL leaders of the planet? :D:D:D

    Hahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    But oh dear, it's worse than we thought :o Now they're starting to believe their own lies.

    Helen, this isn't a new concept. Obviously, since the quote is from 40 years ago. We've been through some rough years lately, but in the global scheme of things, I hate to break it to you, but the US has always been a beacon of hope and possibility to the whole world, despite its flaws. These are not lies, these are dreams, and I believe one day soon they'll be restored.

    This in no way denigrates any other country's integrity. It merely reminds us of our own responsibility to the world.
    "Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."

    "Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore

    "i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
    ~ed, 8/7
  • sweetpotatosweetpotato Posts: 1,278
    "Nations, like men, often march to the beat of
    different drummers, and the precise solutions
    of the United States can neither be dictated
    nor transplanted to others.

    What is important is that all nations must march toward
    an increasing freedom; toward justice for all; toward
    a society strong and flexible enough to meet the demands
    of all of its own people, and a world of immense
    and dizzying change."

    -rfk
    "Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."

    "Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore

    "i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
    ~ed, 8/7
  • Heineken HelenHeineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    Helen, this isn't a new concept. Obviously, since the quote is from 40 years ago. We've been through some rough years lately, but in the global scheme of things, I hate to break it to you, but the US has always been a beacon of hope and possibility to the whole world, despite its flaws. These are not lies, these are dreams, and I believe one day soon they'll be restored.

    This in no way denigrates any other country's integrity. It merely reminds us of our own responsibility to the world.
    I would agree that every nation has a responsibility... the US may have been a beacon of hope... but NEVER of morality... sorry!
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Helen, this isn't a new concept. Obviously, since the quote is from 40 years ago. We've been through some rough years lately, but in the global scheme of things, I hate to break it to you, but the US has always been a beacon of hope and possibility to the whole world, despite its flaws. These are not lies, these are dreams, and I believe one day soon they'll be restored.

    This in no way denigrates any other country's integrity. It merely reminds us of our own responsibility to the world.

    maybe someone should remind helen why we have so many irish immigrants and decendants in this country, including myself
  • Heineken HelenHeineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    my2hands wrote:
    maybe someone should remind helen why we have so many irish immigrants and decendants in this country, including myself
    Because we had a potato blight.. during which the English, who were taking over our country at the time, actually exported the rest of the potatoes. We were starving and dying by the millions... we couldn't go east cos that's England... our only option was west. We were very very warmly welcomed too :rolleyes: *extreme sarcasm*

    Sure... if you wanna call the US a beacon of hope during a famine which actually cut our population in half... it's still not really saying much, is it? :cool:

    I haven't argued the 'beacon of hope' thing... but MORAL LEADERSHIP... NEVER!
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Because we had a potato blight.. during which the English, who were taking over our country at the time, actually exported the rest of the potatoes. We were starving and dying by the millions... we couldn't go east cos that's England... our only option was west. We were very very warmly welcomed too :rolleyes: *extreme sarcasm*

    Sure... if you wanna call the US a beacon of hope during a famine which actually cut our population in half... it's still not really saying much, is it? :cool:

    I haven't argued the 'beacon of hope' thing... but MORAL LEADERSHIP... NEVER!

    fair enough... i am certainly not arguing we are the moral authority of the planet. i am just sick of this current goon squad of criminals we have in power destroying the name and reputation of my beautiful country.

    this was designed to be the melting pot, and slowly but surely it is happening. we can be the greatest country on the planet, a force for good and overall planetary progress. no other country currently has that power or ability. and we are squandering it right now. pissing it away. however, i do feel we have something new on the horizon come next january. but only time will tell.
  • Heineken HelenHeineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    my2hands wrote:
    fair enough... i am certainly not arguing we are the moral authority of the planet. i am just sick of this current goon squad of criminals we have in power destroying the name and reputation of my beautiful country.

    this was designed to be the melting pot, and slowly but surely it is happening. we can be the greatest country on the planet, a force for good and overall planetary progress. no other country currently has that power or ability. and we are squandering it right now. pissing it away. however, i do feel we have something new on the horizon come next january. but only time will tell.
    I agree! Yes, the US has been a beacon of hope... but hope isn't always what it's made out to be. The grass is always greener mentality. That doesn't make it so. That was my point... moral leadership? :eek: that has never been the case.
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    the obese, ignorant, over achievers rule america.


    surfs down.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    our only option was west. We were very very warmly welcomed too :rolleyes: *extreme sarcasm*

    the door was open though wasnt it? nobodys elses door was open at the time was it? say what you will, this was the beacon of hope and they said come on in and make yourself at home. was their anti irish sentiment with some of the population? of course, that always happens with immigrants that bring new culture and ways of life to any country. differences between people scare some folks. but now the irish american population is greatly respected and a tremendous part of our american culture. shit, we party more then you on st patricks day! :cool: not to mention they helped to build this country along with many other immigrant labor cultures.

    Sure... if you wanna call the US a beacon of hope during a famine which actually cut our population in half... it's still not really saying much, is it? :cool:

    that is just ridiculous. yes i would call that "saying much"... perhaps you should ask some of the actual irish immigrants that fleed ireland during the famine to see how they viewed their arrival at Ellis Island. i doubt they would say it wasnt a big deal. considering nobody else would take their asses...
  • Heineken HelenHeineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    my2hands wrote:
    the door was open though wasnt it? nobodys elses door was open at the time was it? say what you will, this was the beacon of hope and they said come on in and make yourself at home. was their anti irish sentiment with some of the population? of course, that always happens with immigrants that bring new culture and ways of life to any country. differences between people scare some folks. but now the irish american population is greatly respected and a tremendous part of our american culture. shit, we party more then you on st patricks day! :cool: not to mention they helped to build this country along with many other immigrant labor cultures....

    Yes, there were other doors open. There are 72 million Irish worldwide... only 5 million of them in Ireland, 44 million in the US... that still leaves 23 million unaccounted for.... that's a lot of unaccounted for people if the only options were stay here or go to the US. I'm assuming you've never been here for Paddys day? ;) I've been to NYC for it and I can assure you we party more.
    my2hands wrote:
    that is just ridiculous. yes i would call that "saying much"... perhaps you should ask some of the actual irish immigrants that fleed ireland during the famine to see how they viewed their arrival at Ellis Island. i doubt they would say it wasnt a big deal. considering nobody else would take their asses...
    What I mean is EVERY non-famine country is a beacon of hope to any nation suffering from famine! So to suggest that the US is a beacon of hope simply because some people had no choice isn't exactly painting a rosy picture. And many of them left their homeland knowing they'd never return and never see their family again... it wasn't exactly a happy time :(
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Getting back to the point, in 1968 Britain's empire had long diminished and the USA were the new economic superpower. Bobby Kennedy realised that it was essential for the most prominent nation on earth not to act like the British. He was very au fait with classical literature and history, and also being aware of Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, he probably knew that the ascendancy of the oilmen in the CIA would lead to government that spurned the beliefs and values of the Republic in favour of a doomed imperialism. What Bobby Kennedy was espousing wasn't moral leadership in an interventionist sense, imposing a belief system upon other countries as a front for stealing their material resources. I think he was talking more of setting an example. After all, he called for an end to the Vietnam War, during his last speech at the Ambassador Hotel.

    That's one of the main reasons why they killed him.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Getting back to the point, in 1968 Britain's empire had long diminished and the USA were the new economic superpower. Bobby Kennedy realised that it was essential for the most prominent nation on earth not to act like the British. He was very au fait with classical literature and history, and also being aware of Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, he probably knew that the ascendancy of the oilmen in the CIA would lead to government that spurned the beliefs and values of the Republic in favour of a doomed imperialism. What Bobby Kennedy was espousing wasn't moral leadership in an interventionist sense, imposing a belief system upon other countries as a front for stealing their material resources. I think he was talking more of setting an example. After all, he called for an end to the Vietnam War, during his last speech at the Ambassador Hotel.

    That's one of the main reasons why they killed him.


    good stuff!


    nice post
  • "How can we say to a negro in jackson - 'When a war comes you will be an American citizen, but in the meantime you are a citizen of Mississippi, and we can not help you.' How by any moral standard can we tell our negro citizens, 'Our forefathers brought your forefathers over here against their will, and we are going to make you pay for it.' Yet isn't that just what this argument boils down to?

    The United States is dominated by white people - politicaly and economicaly. The question is whether we, in this position of dominance, are going to have - not the charity - but the wisdom to stop penalizing our fellow citizens, whose only fault or sin is that they were born."

    -RFK
    "I'm Gonna FUCK the Ockus!"
    - Michael S. McCready
  • Also.
    You may want to read this in full (you quoted it above):

    Robert F. Kennedy, Speech at the University of Capetown, South Africa, Day of Affirmation, 6 June 1966

    Mr. Chancellor, Mr. Vice Chancellor, Professor Robertson, Mr. Diamond, Mr. Daniel, Ladies and Gentlemen:

    I come here this evening because of my deep interest and affection for a land settled by the Dutch in the mid-seventeenth century, then taken over by the British, and at last independent; a land in which the native inhabitants were at first subdued, but relations with whom remain a problem to this day; a land which defined itself on a hostile frontier; a land which has tamed rich natural resources through the energetic application of modern technology; a land which was once the importer of slaves, and now must struggle to wipe out the last traces of that former bondage. I refer, of course, to the United States of America.

    But I am glad to come here, and my wife and I and all of our party are glad to come here to South Africa, and we are glad to come here to Capetown. I am already greatly enjoying my visit here. I am making an effort to meet and exchange views with people of all walks of life, and all segments of South African opinion -- including those who represent the views of the government. Today I am glad to meet with the National Union of South African Students. For a decade, NUSAS has stood and worked for the principles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights -- principles which embody the collective hopes of men of good will around the globe.

    Your work, at home and in international student affairs, has brought great credit to yourselves and your country. I know the National Student Association in the United States feels a particularly close relationship with this organization. And I wish to thank especially Mr. Ian Robertson, who first extended this invitation on behalf of NUSAS, I wish to thank him for his kindness to me in inviting me. I am very sorry that he can not be with us here this evening. I was happy to have had the opportunity to meet and speak with him earlier this evening, and I presented him with a copy of Profiles in Courage, which was a book written by President John Kennedy and was signed to him by President Kennedy's widow, Mrs. John Kennedy.

    This is a Day of Affirmation -- a celebration of liberty. We stand here in the name of freedom.

    At the heart of that western freedom and democracy is the belief that the individual man, the child of God, is the touchstone of value, and all society, all groups, and states, exist for that person's benefit. Therefore the enlargement of liberty for individual human beings must be the supreme goal and the abiding practice of any western society.

    The first element of this individual liberty is the freedom of speech; the right to express and communicate ideas, to set oneself apart from the dumb beasts of field and forest; the right to recall governments to their duties and obligations; above all, the right to affirm one's membership and allegiance to the body politic -- to society -- to the men with whom we share our land, our heritage and our children's future.

    Hand in hand with freedom of speech goes the power to be heard -- to share in the decisions of government which shape men's lives. Everything that makes man's lives worthwhile -- family, work, education, a place to rear one's children and a place to rest one's head -- all this depends on the decisions of government; all can be swept away by a government which does not heed the demands of its people, and I mean all of its people. Therefore, the essential humanity of man can be protected and preserved only where the government must answer -- not just to the wealthy; not just to those of a particular religion, not just to those of a particular race; but to all of the people.

    And even government by the consent of the governed, as in our own Constitution, must be limited in its power to act against its people: so that there may be no interference with the right to worship, but also no interference with the security of the home; no arbitrary imposition of pains or penalties on an ordinary citizen by officials high or low; no restriction on the freedom of men to seek education or to seek work or opportunity of any kind, so that each man may become all that he is capable of becoming.

    These are the sacred rights of western society. These were the essential differences between us and Nazi Germany as they were between Athens and Persia.

    They are the essences of our differences with communism today. I am unalterably opposed to communism because it exalts the state over the individual and over the family, and because its system contains a lack of freedom of speech, of protest, of religion, and of the press, which is characteristic of a totalitarian regime. The way of opposition to communism, however, is not to imitate its dictatorship, but to enlarge individual human freedom. There are those in every land who would label as "communist" every threat to their privilege. But may I say to you , as I have seen on my travels in all sections of the world, reform is not communism. And the denial of freedom, in whatever name, only strengthens the very communism it claims to oppose.

    Many nations have set forth their own definitions and declarations of these principles. And there have often been wide and tragic gaps between promise and performance, ideal and reality. Yet the great ideals have constantly recalled us to our own duties. And -- with painful slowness -- we in the United States have extended and enlarged the meaning and the practice of freedom to all of our people.

    For two centuries, my own country has struggled to overcome the self-imposed handicap of prejudice and discrimination based on nationality, on social class or race -- discrimination profoundly repugnant to the theory and to the command of our Constitution. Even as my father grew up in Boston, Massachusetts, signs told him that "No Irish Need Apply". Two generations later, President Kennedy became the first Irish Catholic, and the first Catholic, to head the nation; but how many men of ability had, before 1961, been denied the opportunity to contribute to the nation's progress because they were Catholic, or because they were of Irish extraction? How many sons of Italian or Jewish or Polish parents slumbered in the slums -- untaught, unlearned, their potential lost forever to our nation and to the human race? Even today, what price will we pay before we have assured full opportunity to millions of Negro Americans?

    In the last five years we have done more to assure equality to our Negro citizens and to help the deprived, both white and black, than in the hundred years before that time. But much, much more remains to be done.

    For there are millions of Negroes untrained for the simplest of jobs, and thousands every day denied their full and equal rights under the law; and the violence of the disinherited, the insulted and the injured, looms over the streets of Harlem and of Watts and Southside Chicago.

    But a Negro American trains as an astronaut, one of mankind's first explorers into outer space; another is the chief barrister of the United States government, and dozens sit on the benches of our court; and another, Dr. Martin Luther King, is the second man of African descent to win the Nobel Peace Prize for his non-violent efforts for social justice between all of the races.

    We have passed laws prohibiting discrimination in education, in employment, in housing; but these laws alone cannot overcome the heritage of centuries -- of broken families and stunted children, and poverty and degradation and pain.

    So the road toward equality of freedom is not easy, and great cost and danger march alongside all of us. We are committed to peaceful and non-violent change and that is important for all to understand -- though change is unsettling. Still, even in the turbulence of protest and struggle is greater hope for the future, as men learn to claim and achieve for themselves the rights formerly petitioned from others.

    And most important of all, all the panoply of government power has been committed to the goal of equality before the law -- as we are now committing ourselves to achievement of equal opportunity in fact.

    We must recognize the full human equality of all of our people -- before God, before the law, and in the councils of government. We must do this, not because it is economically advantageous -- although it is; not because the laws of God command it -- although they do; not because people in other lands wish it so. We must do it for the single and fundamental reason that it is the right thing to do.

    We recognize that there are problems and obstacles before the fulfillment of these ideals in the United States as we recognize that other nations, in Latin America and in Asia and in Africa have their own political, economic, and social problems, their unique barriers to the elimination of injustices.

    In some, there is concern that change will submerge the rights of a minority, particularly where that minority is of a different race than that of the majority. We in the United States believe in the protection of minorities; we recognize the contributions that they can make and the leadership they can provide; and we do not believe that any people -- whether majority or minority, or individual human beings -- are "expendable" in the cause of theory or policy. We recognize also that justice between men and nations is imperfect, and that humanity sometimes progresses very slowly indeed.

    All do not develop in the same manner and at the same pace. Nations, like men, often march to the beat of different drummers, and the precise solutions of the United States can neither be dictated nor transplanted to others, and that is not our intention. What is important however is that all nations must march toward increasing freedom; toward justice for all; toward a society strong and flexible enough to meet the demands of all of its people, whatever their race, and the demands of a world of immense and dizzying change that face us all.

    In a few hours, the plane that brought me to this country crossed over oceans and countries which have been a crucible of human history. In minutes we traced migrations of men over thousands of years; seconds, the briefest glimpse, and we passed battlefields on which millions of men once struggled and died. We could see no national boundaries, no vast gulfs or high walls dividing people from people; only nature and the works of man -- homes and factories and farms -- everywhere reflecting man's common effort to enrich his life. Everywhere new technology and communications brings men and nations closer together, the concerns of one inevitably become the concerns of all. And our new closeness is stripping away the false masks, the illusion of differences which is at the root of injustice and hate and war. Only earthbound man still clings to the dark and poisoning superstition that his world is bounded by the nearest hill, his universe ends at river's shore, his common humanity is enclosed in the tight circle of those who share his town or his views and the color of his skin.

    It is your job, the task of the young people in this world to strip the last remnants of that ancient, cruel belief from the civilization of man.

    Each nation has different obstacles and different goals, shaped by the vagaries of history and of experience. Yet as I talk to young people around the world I am impressed not by the diversity but by the closeness of their goals, their desires, and their concerns and their hope for the future. There is discrimination in New York, the racial inequality of apartheid in South Africa, and serfdom in the mountains of Peru. People starve to death in the streets of India; a former Prime Minister is summarily executed in the Congo; intellectuals go to jail in Russia; and thousands are slaughtered in Indonesia; wealth is lavished on armaments everywhere in the world. These are different evils; but they are the common works of man. They reflect the imperfections of human justice, the inadequacy of human compassion, the defectiveness of our sensibility toward the sufferings of our fellows; they mark the limit of our ability to use knowledge for the well-being of our fellow human beings throughout the world. And therefore they call upon common qualities of conscience and indignation, a shared determination to wipe away the unnecessary sufferings of our fellow human beings at home and around the world.

    It is these qualities which make of our youth today the only true international community. More than this I think that we could agree on what kind of a world we want to build. It would be a world of independent nations, moving toward international community, each of which protected and respected the basic human freedoms. It would be a world which demanded of each government that it accept its responsibility to insure social justice. It would be a world of constantly accelerating economic progress -- not material welfare as an end in of itself, but as a means to liberate the capacity of every human being to pursue his talents and to pursue his hopes. It would, in short, be a world that we would all be proud to have built.

    Just to the North of here are lands of challenge and of opportunity -- rich in natural resources, land and minerals and people. Yet they are also lands confronted by the greatest odds -- overwhelming ignorance, internal tensions and strife, and great obstacles of climate and geography. Many of these nations, as colonies, were oppressed and were exploited. Yet they have not estranged themselves from the broad traditions of the West; they are hoping and they are gambling their progress and their stability on the chance that we will meet our responsibilities to them, to help them overcome their poverty.
    "I'm Gonna FUCK the Ockus!"
    - Michael S. McCready
  • In the world we would like to build, South Africa could play an outstanding role, and a role of leadership in that effort. This country is without question a preeminent repository of the wealth and the knowledge and the skill of the continent. Here are the greater part of Africa's research scientists and steel production, most of it reservoirs of coal and of electric power. Many South Africans have made major contributions to African technical development and world science; the names of some are known wherever men seek to eliminate the ravages of tropical disease and of pestilence. In your faculties and councils, here in this very audience, are hundreds and thousands of men and women who could transform the lives of millions for all time to come.


    But the help and leadership of South Africa or of the United States cannot be accepted if we -- within our own countries or in our relationships with others -- deny individual integrity, human dignity, and the common humanity of man. If we would lead outside our own borders; if we would help those who need our assistance; if we would meet our responsibilities to mankind; we must first, all of us, demolish the borders which history has erected between men within our own nations -- barriers of race and religion, social class and ignorance.

    Our answer is the world's hope; it is to rely on youth. The cruelties and the obstacles of this swiftly changing planet will not yield to obsolete dogmas and outworn slogans. It cannot be moved by those who cling to a present which is already dying, who prefer the illusion of security to the excitement and danger which comes with even the most peaceful progress. This world demands the qualities of youth: not a time of life but a state of mind, a temper of the will, a quality of imagination, a predominance of courage over timidity, of the appetite for adventure over the life of ease -- a man like the Chancellor of this University. It is a revolutionary world that we all live in; and thus, as I have said in Latin America and Asia and in Europe and in my own country, the United States, it is the young people who must take the lead. Thus you, and your young compatriots everywhere have had thrust upon you a greater burden of responsibility than any generation that has ever lived.

    "There is," said an Italian philosopher, "nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things." Yet this is the measure of the task of your generation and the road is strewn with many dangers.

    First is the danger of futility; the belief there is nothing one man or one woman cando against the enormous array of the world's ills -- against misery, against ignorance, or injustice and violence. Yet many of the world's great movements, of thought and action, have flowed from the work of a single man. A young monk began the Protestant reformation, a young general extended an empire from Macedonia to the borders of the earth, and a young woman reclaimed the territory of France. It was a young Italian explorer who discovered the New /world, and 32 year old Thomas Jefferson who proclaimed that all men are created equal. "Give me a place to stand," said Archimedes, "and I will move the world." These men moved the world, and so can we all. Few will have the greatness to bend history; but each of us can work to change a small portion of the events, and in the total of all these acts will be written the history of this generation. Thousands of Peace Corps volunteers are making a difference in the isolated villages and the city slums of dozens of countries. Thousands of unknown men and women in Europe resisted the occupation of the Nazis and many died, but all added to the ultimate strength and freedom of their countries. It is from numberless diverse acts of courage such as these that the belief that human history is thus shaped. Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance.

    "If Athens shall appear great to you," said Pericles, "consider then that her glories were purchased by valiant men, and by men who learned their duty." That is the source of all greatness in all societies, and it is the key to progress in our own time.

    The second danger is that of expediency; of those who say that hopes and beliefs must bend before immediate necessities. Of course if we must act effectively we must deal with the world as it is. We must get things done. But if there was one thing that President Kennedy stood for that touched the most profound feeling of young people across the world, it was the belief that idealism, high aspiration and deep convictions are not incompatible with the most practical and efficient of programs -- that there is no basic inconsistency between ideals and realistic possibilities -- no separation between the deepest desires of heart and of mind and the rational application of human effort to human problems. It is not realistic or hard-headed to solve problems and take action unguided by ultimate moral aims and values, although we all know some who claim that it is so. In my judgement, it is thoughtless folly. For it ignores the realities of human faith and of passion and of belief; forces ultimately more powerful than all the calculations of our economists or of our generals. Of course to adhere to standards, to idealism, to vision in the face of immediate dangers takes great courage and takes self-confidence. But we also know that only those who dare to fail greatly, can ever achieve greatly.

    It is this new idealism which is also, I believe, the common heritage of a generation which has learned that while efficiency can lead to the camps at Auschwitz, or the streets of Budapest, only the ideals of humanity and love can climb the hills of the Acropolis.

    A third danger is timidity. Few men are willing to brave the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential, vital quality for those who seek to change the world which yields most painfully to change. Aristotle tells us "At the Olympic games it is not the finest or the strongest men who are crowned, but those who enter the lists. . .so too in the life of the honorable and the good it is they who act rightly who win the prize." I believe that in this generation those with the courage to enter the conflict will find themselves with companions in every corner of the world.

    For the fortunate amongst us, the fourth danger is comfort; the temptation to follow the easy and familiar path of personal ambition and financial success so grandly spread before those who have the privelege of an education. But that is not the road history has marked out for us. There is a Chinese curse which says "May he live in interesting times." Like it or not, we live in interesting times. They are times of danger and uncertainty; but they are also the most creative of any time in the history of mankind. And everyone here will ultimately be judged -- will ultimately judge himself -- on the effort he has contributed to building a new world society and the extent to which his ideals and goals have shaped that effort.

    So we part, I to my country and you to remain. We are -- if a man of forty can claim the privelege -- fellow members of the world's largest younger generation. Each of us have our own work to do. I know at times you must feel very alone with your problems and with your difficulties. But I want to say how impressed I am with what you stand for and for the effort you are making; and I say this not just for myself, but men and women all over the world. And I hope you will often take heart from the knowledge that you are joined with your fellow young people in every land, they struggling with their problems and you with yours, but all joined in a common purpose; that, like the young people of my own country and of every country that I have visited, you are all in many ways more closely united to the brothers of your time than to the older generation in any of these nations; you are determined to build a better future. President Kennedy was speaking to the young people of America, but beyond them to young people everywhere, when he said "The energy, the faith, the devotion which we bring to this endeavor will light our country and all who serve it -- and the glow from that fire can truly light the world."

    And, he added, "With a good conscience our only sure reward, with history the final judge of our deeds, let us go forth and lead the land we love, asking His blessing and His help, but knowing that here on earth God's work must truly be our own."

    I thank you.
    "I'm Gonna FUCK the Ockus!"
    - Michael S. McCready
  • I am today announcing my candidacy for the presidency of the United States.

    I do not run for the presidency merely to oppose any man but to propose new policies. I run because I am convinced that this country is on a perilous course and because I have such strong feelings about what must be done, and I feel that I'm obliged to do all that I can.

    I run to seek new policies - policies to end the bloodshed in Vietnam and in our cities, policies to close the gaps that now exist between black and white, between rich and poor, between young and old, in this country and around the rest of the world.

    I run for the presidency because I want the Democratic Party and the United States of America to stand for hope instead of despair, for reconciliation of men instead of the growing risk of world war.

    I run because it is now unmistakably clear that we can change these disastrous, divisive policies only by changing the men who are now making them. For the reality of recent events in Vietnam has been glossed over with illusions.

    Washington, D.C. March 16, 1968
    Portion of speech

    This movie is practicaly a 2 hour pastiche of RFK speeches. Almost the whole thing is just interview film footage and clips. Truly great stuff.

    JFK song -- love it.
    "I'm Gonna FUCK the Ockus!"
    - Michael S. McCready
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    my2hands wrote:
    fair enough... i am certainly not arguing we are the moral authority of the planet. i am just sick of this current goon squad of criminals we have in power destroying the name and reputation of my beautiful country.

    this was designed to be the melting pot, and slowly but surely it is happening. we can be the greatest country on the planet, a force for good and overall planetary progress. no other country currently has that power or ability. and we are squandering it right now. pissing it away. however, i do feel we have something new on the horizon come next january. but only time will tell.
    The concept of being the greatest country on the planet is an illusion because it comes at the expense of making others less great. The concept in itself, once bought into, sets the cycles of imbalance into play.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
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