this one's for the naderettes

sweetpotatosweetpotato Posts: 1,278
edited April 2008 in A Moving Train
here's one one you can really sink your teeth into. and while you're at it, try and laugh at yourselves. you'd be amazed at how good it feels not to take yourselves sooooo seriously, 24/7.

PS- this is ALL IN FUN. (even if you don't see the humor, trust me, it's there.) don't get your thongs in a knot over it! (that means you, too, kabong... :p )



32 Short Thoughts About Ralph Nader
By Will Durst, AlterNet
Posted on March 4, 2008, Printed on April 27, 2008
http://www.alternet.org/story/78500/


Ralph Nader. Officially threw his hat in the ring for president. Again. His fourth attempt. Shouldn't three strikes apply here?

Ralph Nader. The Doctor Kevorkian of presidential politics.

Ralph Nader. Like a lefter Dennis Kucinich minus the hot wife and massive groundswell of public support.

Ralph Nader. Liberal response: Good message. Bad delivery. Awful timing.

Ralph Nader. Conservative response: If you need any help with ballot access, let us know.

Ralph Nader. A retired two term ex President if hippies ruled the world.

Ralph Nader. Still serving life without parole if General Motors ruled the world.

Ralph Nader. First name is colloquial synonym for the rapid expulsion of stomach contents as a result of a series of involuntary muscle spasms whose appearance generally signals the host is sick or drunk. Not that that means anything.

Ralph Nader. Surname is homonym of nadir: which means lowest point possible. The opposite of zenith. Not that that means anything.

Ralph Nader. Makes Barack Hussein Obama look like a centrist.

Ralph Nader. Makes John Sidney McCain look vivacious.

Ralph Nader. Middle name is Moral Victory.

Ralph Nader. In '00, saw no difference between Al Gore and George Bush. Still denies missing repeated optometrist appointments.

Ralph Nader. Fervently believes the truth can affect change. Has yet to learn the American electorate would rather drink unfiltered haggis juice straight from the tap with their hands tied behind their backs with live copperhead snakes than confront the truth.

Ralph Nader. A Pisces.

Ralph Nader. Born in a Year of the Dog.

Ralph Nader. Not a Socialist. But not unlike one either.

Ralph Nader. Older than John McCain. Whiter than Barack Obama. More Y chromosomes than Hillary Clinton. But all three were close.

Ralph Nader. Three time recipient of the "Tony Orlando Coasting on Your Decades Old Reputation" Award.

Ralph Nader. Michael Moore -- 19 years and 10 months hence.

Ralph Nader. When Bad Things Happen to Good People in Sears and Roebuck Suits.

Ralph Nader. Made the cars we drive safer and George Bush president. That's what you call your trade-off.

Ralph Nader. Yet to hold electoral office. Apparently not complicit with that whole "presidency should not be an entry level position" cabal.

Ralph Nader. Like a scowling Ross Perot with a Harvard Law degree.

Ralph Nader. A saint, a visionary and a genius.

Ralph Nader. A fool with the same common sense that god gave a bucket of claw hammers.

Ralph Nader. Harold Stassen for the MTV generation.

Ralph Nader. Unsafe at Any Speed is now him in a crosswalk.

Ralph Nader. Possesses the sense of humor of an end table.

Ralph Nader. Would rather be right in public than left at home.

Ralph Nader. People's lobbyist or Judas Goat?

Ralph Nader. Dramatically intones that if America is to become better, it first has to get worse. NEWS FLASH. It's worse! We don't want worser. This is worsest we can stand.




Will Durst is a political comic, syndicated columnist, AM radio talk show host and defense liability.
"Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."

"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore

"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Ralph Nader. Officially threw his hat in the ring for president. Again. His fourth attempt. Shouldn't three strikes apply here?

    Ralph Nader. Like a lefter Dennis Kucinich minus the hot wife and massive groundswell of public support.

    Ralph Nader. Liberal response: Good message. Bad delivery. Awful timing.

    Ralph Nader. Conservative response: If you need any help with ballot access, let us know.

    Ralph Nader. Still serving life without parole if General Motors ruled the world.

    Ralph Nader. Makes John Sidney McCain look vivacious.

    Ralph Nader. In '00, saw no difference between Al Gore and George Bush. Still denies missing repeated optometrist appointments.

    Ralph Nader. Older than John McCain. Whiter than Barack Obama. More Y chromosomes than Hillary Clinton. But all three were close.

    Ralph Nader. Three time recipient of the "Tony Orlando Coasting on Your Decades Old Reputation" Award.

    Ralph Nader. Made the cars we drive safer and George Bush president. That's what you call your trade-off.

    Ralph Nader. Yet to hold electoral office. Apparently not complicit with that whole "presidency should not be an entry level position" cabal.

    Ralph Nader. Possesses the sense of humor of an end table.


    I LOVE IT!!!!!

    these were funny :)



    some of them make a good point though... i CANNOT vote for a 74 year old for president. he was my age, 29, in 1963!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! which tells me he has absolutely zero clue about me and my generation. and thats not age discrimination, that is reality
  • maybe he should run for senator first.

    or mayor
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    MrSmith wrote:
    maybe he should run for senator first.

    or mayor


    i know, right!? he just needs to be elected senator for one term (after making sure he runs unopposed in the senate race, first) then not even bother to vote on 1/3 of what are labeled important issues b/c he's on a non-stop media tour, then he will have all the experience you guys so crave!!

    sorry, sweetpotato, but those were pretty lame, bill maher was funnier

    i don't get what my2hands thought was so hillarious about
    Ralph Nader is a pisces or what chinese year he was born in???

    and my2hands, you seem to like howard zinn, are you saying you wouldn't vote for him?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • hailhail82hailhail82 Posts: 330
    my2hands wrote:
    I LOVE IT!!!!!

    these were funny :)



    some of them make a good point though... i CANNOT vote for a 74 year old for president. he was my age, 29, in 1963!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! which tells me he has absolutely zero clue about me and my generation. and thats not age discrimination, that is reality


    That's probably the worst reason I've heard to not vote for Nader.
    Re: original post:
    What's a naderette? Are you calling me a woman (that's a joke)? Maybe you mean "Naderite" (not that I've heard anyone use that either)?

    And of course I see the humor in the article. They're jokes. The "safe cars/bush presidency tradeoff" one made me laugh a little.
    The problem with that is they still attempt to reinforce incorrect conceptions about democracy and discredit the only viable candidate in the presidential race.

    This one didn't really make me laugh, but it doesn't do anything to discredit Nader. Rather, it discredits candidates of the corporate-controlled parties and those who support them:
    "Fervently believes the truth can affect change. Has yet to learn the American electorate would rather drink unfiltered haggis juice straight from the tap with their hands tied behind their backs with live copperhead snakes than confront the truth."
    Using the word "methinks" in your message board posts doesn't make you look smart.
  • hailhail82 wrote:
    That's probably the worst reason I've heard to not vote for Nader.
    Re: original post:
    What's a naderette? Are you calling me a woman (that's a joke)? Maybe you mean "Naderite" (not that I've heard anyone use that either)?

    And of course I see the humor in the article. They're jokes. The "safe cars/bush presidency tradeoff" one made me laugh a little.
    The problem with that is they still attempt to reinforce incorrect conceptions about democracy and discredit the only viable candidate in the presidential race.

    This one didn't really make me laugh, but it doesn't do anything to discredit Nader. Rather, it discredits candidates of the corporate-controlled parties and those who support them:
    "Fervently believes the truth can affect change. Has yet to learn the American electorate would rather drink unfiltered haggis juice straight from the tap with their hands tied behind their backs with live copperhead snakes than confront the truth."


    Nice post. :)
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • GauchoBGauchoB Posts: 224
    I don't think you have to worry about Naderites on this board anymore. They're all Obamites now.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    El_Kabong wrote:

    and my2hands, you seem to like howard zinn, are you saying you wouldn't vote for him?


    that is correct, i would not vote for howard zinn. based strictly on his age. sorry, he CANNOT relate to me. at all. sorry, but it is the truth. and i LOVE the man.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    El_Kabong wrote:
    i don't get what my2hands thought was so hillarious about
    Ralph Nader is a pisces or what chinese year he was born in???


    i didnt say those were funny... i selected the ones i thought that were...
  • my2hands wrote:
    that is correct, i would not vote for howard zinn. based strictly on his age. sorry, he CANNOT relate to me. at all. sorry, but it is the truth. and i LOVE the man.


    I can relate to Zinn's ideology and compassion waaay before I could relate myself to Obama based on age.

    I don't believe in age discrimination and think it's a cop out here.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • I know, Nader has accomplished so much in the past 30 years, right? but hey, at least he has impeccable morals, and doesnt compromise!
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    hailhail82 wrote:
    That's probably the worst reason I've heard to not vote for Nader.


    yeah, well, i like to hang out in "reality" land... 74 is way to out of touch with 21st century america and my generation to be my president... sorry, thats the truth.
  • my2hands wrote:
    yeah, well, i like to hang out in "reality" land... 74 is way to out of touch with 21st century america and my generation to be my president... sorry, thats the truth.


    That might be your skewed reality...

    Like I said, I can relate to someone who thinks like I do and has the same values much easier than someone who just happens to be closer to my age. This excuse is pretty weak.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117

    I don't believe in age discrimination and think it's a cop out here.

    would you vote for a 12 year old for president? i didnt think so, and that would be age discrimination.

    and it is not a "cop out"... it is how i feel, believe me i dont have to explain myself to anybody. i say how i feel. and thats how i feel.


    Nader would be 82 in his last term, NO THANKS.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    That might be your skewed reality...

    Like I said, I can relate to someone who thinks like I do and has the same values much easier than someone who just happens to be closer to my age. This excuse is pretty weak.


    um, newsflash, i am not voting for obama based on his age.

    i will NEVER vote for ANYONE over the age of 70 years old. thats just ridiculous, in my opinion.
  • my2hands wrote:
    um, newsflash, i am not voting for obama based on his age.

    i will NEVER vote for ANYONE over the age of 70 years old. thats just ridiculous, in my opinion.


    It's ridiculous to be so closed minded to shut someone out based purely on age. And it is beyond shortsighted to believe that an older person is incapable of relating to you when his entire history of work has shown you just how much you two CAN and DO actually relate. :rolleyes:
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • my2hands wrote:
    would you vote for a 12 year old for president? i didnt think so, and that would be age discrimination.

    and it is not a "cop out"... it is how i feel, believe me i dont have to explain myself to anybody. i say how i feel. and thats how i feel.


    Nader would be 82 in his last term, NO THANKS.


    Yeah, 12 year olds aren't adults.

    Nader is much more intelligent, articulate and capable than almost every politician I've seen. He age doesn't mean shit.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    to the "lets not have any fun crowd and keep talking about nader, and dis obama, until people literally want to rip their hair out and never come back to the MT again" crowd


    support your candidate, vote for who you like, but stop trying to sell ME on him. i am not buying, at all. thanks for the effort though, and i support your enthusiasm and your passion. i just dont support your candidate.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Yeah, 12 year olds aren't adults.

    Nader is much more intelligent, articulate and capable than almost every politician I've seen. He age doesn't mean shit.


    ok, 18... bet you wouldnt vote for him/her based strictly on age. FOR GOOD REASON


    political correctness, is not always correct
  • hailhail82hailhail82 Posts: 330
    Read The Seventeen Traditions and you will see that Ralph Nader aknowledges and will do more to stop the troubles surrounding the young people today than any major party candidate.

    Also, for your reading enjoyment, Nader's (as well as Bush and Kerry's) responses to questions posed by young people during the 2004 campaign:
    http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/10/13/1657237
    Using the word "methinks" in your message board posts doesn't make you look smart.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    He age doesn't mean shit.


    it does to me.


    it is called MY OPINION. we all have them, and guess what, they all wont be in line with your opinions. *gasp*
  • hailhail82hailhail82 Posts: 330
    my2hands wrote:
    to the "lets not have any fun crowd and keep talking about nader, and dis obama, until people literally want to rip their hair out and never come back to the MT again" crowd


    support your candidate, vote for who you like, but stop trying to sell ME on him. i am not buying, at all. thanks for the effort though, and i support your enthusiasm and your passion. i just dont support your candidate.

    To post jokes that poke fun at a presidential candidate (however in good fun it is) and to not expect his supporters defending him is silly.
    Like I said, I get the humor. I don't support the message the humor is trying to convey.
    Using the word "methinks" in your message board posts doesn't make you look smart.
  • my2hands wrote:
    to the "lets not have any fun crowd and keep talking about nader, and dis obama, until people literally want to rip their hair out and never come back to the MT again" crowd


    support your candidate, vote for who you like, but stop trying to sell ME on him. i am not buying, at all. thanks for the effort though, and i support your enthusiasm and your passion. i just dont support your candidate.

    Just trying to engage in discourse here. You guys love to dish it out but whine like babies if someone has something to say about it. Grow up.

    You do realize how the "pro Obama people who get their panies in a bunch whenever people try to discuss negative things about Obama" are seen as just as annoying and 'not fun' to some of us don't you? Probably not...you seem only capable of tolerating your own views while pretending others shouldn't be voiced in opposition.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    hailhail82 wrote:
    To post jokes that poke fun at a presidential candidate (however in good fun it is) and to not expect his supporters defending him is silly.
    Like I said, I get the humor. I don't support the message the humor is trying to convey.

    you must be a hit at parties...
  • my2hands wrote:
    it does to me.


    it is called MY OPINION. we all have them, and guess what, they all wont be in line with your opinions. *gasp*

    And?

    Isn't the point of this board to debate our differing opinions?

    If ya can't take the heat....
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • my2hands wrote:
    you must be a hit at parties...


    I'm a fucking ball at parties!

    hailhail82 is, too...even I was impressed.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • hailhail82 wrote:
    To post jokes that poke fun at a presidential candidate (however in good fun it is) and to not expect his supporters defending him is silly.
    Like I said, I get the humor. I don't support the message the humor is trying to convey.


    Shhh, you're not allowed to say such things in their hilarious threads. Only agreement posts, please.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • hailhail82hailhail82 Posts: 330
    my2hands wrote:
    you must be a hit at parties...

    Yes, let's get personal.

    I tend to keep politics out of social situations unless I'm with good friends (most of whom do not support Nader). It's my OPINION (remember how important those are to you? see-that's a joke!) that political humor just usually is not that funny (Daily Show/Colbert excluded), almost always partisan, and usually ends with people in disagreement.

    Sounds like a great party!
    Using the word "methinks" in your message board posts doesn't make you look smart.
  • hailhail82hailhail82 Posts: 330
    I'm a fucking ball at parties!

    hailhail82 is, too...even I was impressed.


    Come now, book, we can't have that getting out. We're all supposed to be workaholic curmudgeons who crash Obama rallies.
    Using the word "methinks" in your message board posts doesn't make you look smart.
  • hailhail82 wrote:
    Come now, book, we can't have that getting out. We're all supposed to be workaholic curmudgeons who crash Obama rallies.


    You're absolutely right.


    *regains composure*


    :D
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
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