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Pearl Jam fans volunteer to fight in Iraq!

Last ExodusLast Exodus Posts: 782
edited January 2007 in A Moving Train
Just not sure for whom.....
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  • B niceB nice Posts: 182
    this thread is going well


    why don't you start your own blog? so i don't have to listen to your pile of crap over there
    life has nothing to do with killing time
    Bring it on cause I'm no victim

    b nice loves pearl jam like ed vedder loves america
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    Last Exodus wrote:
    Just not sure for whom.....


    :confused:.....
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    not a very funny joke.

    why doesn't the original poster just accuse us of hating america again?
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  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    Last Exodus wrote:
    Just not sure for whom.....
    Last Exodus volunteers........

    to complain about others not joining in the war he supports......

    from his computer........

    at home.........


    A brave, brave man.
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Last Exodus wrote:
    Just not sure for whom.....

    You better be typing this from a computer in Iraq while you are on break. You're the one who is so behind it, I thought you would be over there "defending our freedom", or getting "those who attacked us on 9/11" or searching for weapons of mass destruction. I can't remember which one you signed up for that turned out totally bogus.
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  • Last ExodusLast Exodus Posts: 782
    Im just stirring the pot. This was just aimed at a couple of people. For the record, I don't support the war, but I also don't support retreat or surrender. If your into surrender, move to France. They have a whole country of surrender monkeys over there.
  • darkcrowdarkcrow Posts: 1,102
    Last Exodus wrote:
    They have a whole country of surrender monkeys over there.

    because saying that is not offensive at all........................... read some ww1 and ww2 history books and find out why they surrendered, then talk about it.
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Last Exodus wrote:
    Im just stirring the pot. This was just aimed at a couple of people. For the record, I don't support the war, but I also don't support retreat or surrender. If your into surrender, move to France. They have a whole country of surrender monkeys over there.

    Nice to see that you get your slogans from the NY Post...

    But as far as France goes, they really bailed us out in the revolutionary war...
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  • KannKann Posts: 1,146
    Last Exodus wrote:
    If your into surrender, move to France. They have a whole country of surrender monkeys over there.

    http://season1.bonjour-america.com/archives/011.html

    Plus, we know how to party.
  • thankyougrandmathankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    Last Exodus wrote:
    Im just stirring the pot. This was just aimed at a couple of people. For the record, I don't support the war, but I also don't support retreat or surrender. If your into surrender, move to France. They have a whole country of surrender monkeys over there.

    surrender monkeys? i bet you know a lot about France... and the USA...
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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    blackredyellow wrote:
    Nice to see that you get your slogans from the NY Post...

    But as far as France goes, they really bailed us out in the revolutionary war...

    Why cant he make fun of france? all this board ever does is rip on america.
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • thankyougrandmathankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    miller8966 wrote:
    Why cant he make fun of france? all this board ever does is rip on america.

    he can
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    miller8966 wrote:
    Why cant he make fun of france? all this board ever does is rip on america.

    By "rip on america" do you really mean not agree with your flag waving beliefs? There is a big difference.
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  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    miller8966 wrote:
    Why cant he make fun of france? all this board ever does is rip on america.


    Keeps you and 3/4 of the people in on the topic. ;) And you know it. :)
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  • JamMastaEJamMastaE Posts: 444
    Last Exodus wrote:
    Im just stirring the pot. This was just aimed at a couple of people. For the record, I don't support the war, but I also don't support retreat or surrender. If your into surrender, move to France. They have a whole country of surrender monkeys over there.




    if it wasn't for france There Might Not Be an AMERICA
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  • Last ExodusLast Exodus Posts: 782
    JamMastaE wrote:
    if it wasn't for france There Might Not Be an AMERICA
    Agreed. And if it wasn't for American the French would all be speaking German now.
  • Last ExodusLast Exodus Posts: 782
    thankyougrandma wrote:
    surrender monkeys? i bet you know a lot about France... and the USA...

    Quite a bit actually. But Im not here to educate; though someone despartely needs to. Im here to discuss and debate. Even with surrender monkeys...
  • Last ExodusLast Exodus Posts: 782
    ledvedderman wrote:
    By "rip on america" do you really mean not agree with your flag waving beliefs? There is a big difference.


    I can pretty much be assured that all of the American born America bashers on this board have barely if ever left our borders. If you had, you'd have a far greater appreciation for the country that allows you to so openly bash it without fear of being beaten, imprisoned or killed. It is possible to be both patriotic, which I define as being loyal to your community, and be critical of this country's current policies. We live in a great country. The greatest on earth IMHO. Instead of just focusing on the follies of our current president, which is just picking on an easy target, try some actual debate and discussion. Let's try a thread where we actually talk about some of the great things this country has done and still does. We are mostly American here. We have the capacity to make change. But it won't happen through blind hatred and ignorance of the past which seems so pervasive on this board...
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Last Exodus wrote:
    I can pretty much be assured that all of the American born America bashers on this board have barely if ever left our borders. If you had, you'd have a far greater appreciation for the country that allows you to so openly bash it without fear of being beaten, imprisoned or killed. It is possible to be both patriotic, which I define as being loyal to your community, and be critical of this country's current policies. We live in a great country. The greatest on earth IMHO. Instead of just focusing on the follies of our current president, which is just picking on an easy target, try some actual debate and discussion. Let's try a thread where we actually talk about some of the great things this country has done and still does. We are mostly American here. We have the capacity to make change. But it won't happen through blind hatred and ignorance of the past which seems so pervasive on this board...

    I'm sorry, you still didn't answer the question, by "blind hatred and ignorance" and people who "rip on america" do you mean people who don't agree with you?
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  • Last ExodusLast Exodus Posts: 782
    ledvedderman wrote:
    I'm sorry, you still didn't answer the question, by "blind hatred and ignorance" and people who "rip on america" do you mean people who don't agree with you?


    Take it however you want. It was invitation to enlightenment....Ill cross your name off the list.
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Last Exodus wrote:
    I can pretty much be assured that all of the American born America bashers on this board have barely if ever left our borders. If you had, you'd have a far greater appreciation for the country that allows you to so openly bash it without fear of being beaten, imprisoned or killed. It is possible to be both patriotic, which I define as being loyal to your community, and be critical of this country's current policies. We live in a great country. The greatest on earth IMHO. Instead of just focusing on the follies of our current president, which is just picking on an easy target, try some actual debate and discussion. Let's try a thread where we actually talk about some of the great things this country has done and still does. We are mostly American here. We have the capacity to make change. But it won't happen through blind hatred and ignorance of the past which seems so pervasive on this board...
    You know, it's possible to travel very widely and still not visit a country where people are beaten, imprisoned or killed for criticizing the government. People in much of the world roll their eyes and laugh when Americans talk as though we're the only country on the planet where citizens are free to speak their minds.

    Which countries have you visited that so severly curtail speech rights?
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Last Exodus wrote:
    Take it however you want. It was invitation to enlightenment....Ill cross your name off the list.

    If being enlightened is having a close minded view of the world like yours, please scratch me off
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  • Last ExodusLast Exodus Posts: 782
    hippiemom wrote:
    You know, it's possible to travel very widely and still not visit a country where people are beaten, imprisoned or killed for criticizing the government. People in much of the world roll their eyes and laugh when Americans talk as though we're the only country on the planet where citizens are free to speak their minds.

    Which countries have you visited that so severly curtail speech rights?


    Vietnam, Cambodia, China, Cuba, among others. I never stated we are the only country with Free Speech. I was simply pointing out that bashing America is just too easy these days. It's easy for people to just bash than actually debate, which is a right given to us by our own Constitution. I never stated that we have the best civil rights record in the world. Clearly we do not and obviously we aren't the only country in the world who uphold free speech. But the right to free speech means just that; freedom to express views that may not be those of the government or the majority. Interestingly the people on this board who spend the most time on here bashing America are the same ones looking to ban people from this board for expressing a different opinion. I find that somewhat ironic....
  • Last ExodusLast Exodus Posts: 782
    ledvedderman wrote:
    If being enlightened is having a close minded view of the world like yours, please scratch me off
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  • ProvidenceHunterProvidenceHunter Posts: 52
    Last Exodus wrote:
    ....... which is a right given to us by our own Constitution. ....


    Just to nit pick. The constitution does not give us the right to free speach. It keeps the government from taking a that right away.
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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    Last Exodus wrote:
    It's easy for people to just bash than actually debate, which is a right given to us by our own Constitution.
    Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong!!!!!!!!!! Our constitution does not give us rights! The constitution sets LIMITS on the rights of government. Any and every right not specifically granted to the government resides with the people.

    Sorry, this is a pet peeve of mine. It's a common mistake, I see it all the time, but I think it's an important distinction. We need to be very clear that the government gets it's rights from us, not the other way around.
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  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    Last Exodus wrote:
    Vietnam, Cambodia, China, Cuba, among others. I never stated we are the only country with Free Speech. I was simply pointing out that bashing America is just too easy these days. It's easy for people to just bash than actually debate, which is a right given to us by our own Constitution. I never stated that we have the best civil rights record in the world. Clearly we do not and obviously we aren't the only country in the world who uphold free speech. But the right to free speech means just that; freedom to express views that may not be those of the government or the majority. Interestingly the people on this board who spend the most time on here bashing America are the same ones looking to ban people from this board for expressing a different opinion. I find that somewhat ironic....

    No what we have now is segregated free speech, whereby people are being ignored based on an ill perceived division of political and religious viewpoints. A division that divides the mindset of the people of this country which has allowed for the dilution of the Constitution. Here we are in enaged in a purge of another country while the people who we looked up to guide America are on trial in the nation's capital. At least the people in the countries you mentioned know how they stand with their governmental leaders. We in America, well are now getting a taste of what it's like.
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  • JamMastaEJamMastaE Posts: 444
    hippiemom wrote:
    Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong!!!!!!!!!! Our constitution does not give us rights! The constitution sets LIMITS on the rights of government. Any and every right not specifically granted to the government resides with the people.

    Sorry, this is a pet peeve of mine. It's a common mistake, I see it all the time, but I think it's an important distinction. We need to be very clear that the government gets it's rights from us, not the other way around.


    amen.the constitution is a paper that recognizes our "god given rights" not permitting them.
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