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30 000 Iraqis killed in the war, 4000 Americans killed in the war

ViggoViggo Posts: 274
edited September 2007 in A Moving Train
Which one gets the most attention?
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,219
    does it matter they are all HUMAN .......
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    you mean here in america or around the world?
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    Viggo wrote:
    Which one gets the most attention?

    you can be sure that far more than 30,000 Iraqis were killed

    and the American's get far more attention
  • bee_boybee_boy Posts: 384
    I think I'd rather give attention to the 1'000'000+ souls that have REALLY died, not to the flag they were carrying when they did so.

    To the people who do notice those flags though, I'd say that Americans do get more attention. It's all media-driven, and I'm pretty sure that the US controls much more of the global media than Iraq, hence, the attention towards the fallen Americans.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Viggo wrote:
    Which one gets the most attention?

    that 30,000 number is a few hundred thousand light
  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    my2hands wrote:
    that 30,000 number is a few hundred thousand light

    Yeah.
    Its BS.

    Given that this is a "new kind of war", there is a "new kind of math for a new kind of death toll".

    Most ALL deaths NOT on the American "side" are civilian deaths.

    Those "non deaths" are, by multiple source estimates, somewhere between 650,000 and 700,000+

    So make that 730,000.
    ;)

    Of course, there are probably about 100 american "civilian" deaths too, if you count the reporters and "contract workers".

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  • stu geestu gee Posts: 1,174
    Viggo wrote:
    Which one gets the most attention?

    Naturally the US deaths are going to be made more of an issue in western media than Iraqi deaths.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Viggo wrote:
    Which one gets the most attention?

    The latest survey suggests that 1.2 million Iraqis have been killed.

    http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,2170237,00.html

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2007-09/17/content_6110828.htm
  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    stu gee wrote:
    Naturally the US deaths are going to be made more of an issue in western media than Iraqi deaths.

    ....no. A great many of us care about the Iraqis. A great many of us don't believe in this 'war'/occupation.

    Unfortunately, even our own troops' deaths are not getting headlines either, anymore.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Viggo wrote:
    Which one gets the most attention?

    Where did you find the 30,000 figure? Every respectable survey puts the figure at ovr 1 Million. Are you relying on Fox news and 'Iraq body count' for your information?
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Viggo wrote:
    Which one gets the most attention?

    I find it very hard to believe that 30,000 Iraqis have been killed when the US uses tactical bombing that can occur like this....F-16 is a Homicide Bomber. You can move it up to the 1 minute mark if you wish and take a look.

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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    This thread is bullshit.
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    Viggo wrote:
    Which one gets the most attention?
    Hey...its kinda like dog years to human years....one amerikin equals 2000 non-amerikin's.....and throw in religion other than a christian and you can safely multiply that by 1.5. You do the math.....we're the ones sacrificin.
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Where did you find the 30,000 figure? Every respectable survey puts the figure at ovr 1 Million. Are you relying on Fox news and 'Iraq body count' for your information?

    Fox News says they are all just playing hide and go seek...
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  • stu geestu gee Posts: 1,174
    Bu2 wrote:
    ....no. A great many of us care about the Iraqis. A great many of us don't believe in this 'war'/occupation.

    Unfortunately, even our own troops' deaths are not getting headlines either, anymore.

    No what? Common sense tells me that western media will be more detailed in its reports of western deaths in iraq than iraqi deaths. Im not saying its right but its not difficult to understand.
    People say im paranoid. Well, they dont say it, but i know that's what they are thinking.
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