Taking down the Wren Cross at the College of William and Mary

chopitdown

CorporateWhore wrote:

That is true.

if that policy is already in place; that makes this story even more rediculous.

hendrix78

As a William and Mary alumnus who does not subscribe to any organized religion, let me voice my opinion that this is the stupidest controversy I've ever heard of and I can't believe anyone cares about this. I was married in that chapel and I could care less whether there was a cross in it or not. I see removing the cross as nothing more than a publicity move by the new dean. It is unfortunate that one of the oldest colleges in the country, with an excellent academic reputation, is reduced to making the headlines over this.

CorporateWhore

blackredyellow wrote:

Thanks for clearing that up.

But like I said, (from what you originally posted) this was a decision by the school to do this.

I do think removing it is a stupid move, but if that is what the school wants to do, then it's up to them. The only thing that people who oppose it can do is complain to the school or take their tuition money elsewhere.

I just can't understand how someone can walk into a chapel and be offended by a cross.

Sorry for not presenting enough information about the situation. There's a website called

http://www.savethewrencross.org

President Nichol took the cross down without consulting anyone. No vote from the student body was done either.

CorporateWhore

hendrix78 wrote:

As a William and Mary alumnus who does not subscribe to any organized religion, let me voice my opinion that this is the stupidest controversy I've ever heard of and I can't believe anyone cares about this. I was married in that chapel and I could care less whether there was a cross in it or not. I see removing the cross as nothing more than a publicity move by the new dean. It is unfortunate that one of the oldest colleges in the country, with an excellent academic reputation, is reduced to making the headlines over this.

The main problem I have with the people who agree with me is that they are not inclined by religious motives, but political ones.

For what it's worth, president Nichol has said that he regretted unilaterally taking the cross down and wishes he had consulted faculty and students first.

My main thought is this: the society that wants to take down the cross is degraded whether or not they actually take the cross down. This issue is reflective of the death of Christianity in our society - not just a cross being taken down. It proves that a president would be willing to take down a cross because that symbol no longer holds any positive thoughts for our college.

gue_barium

CorporateWhore wrote:

The main problem I have with the people who agree with me is that they are not inclined by religious motives, but political ones.

For what it's worth, president Nichol has said that he regretted unilaterally taking the cross down and wishes he had consulted faculty and students first.

My main thought is this: the society that wants to take down the cross is degraded whether or not they actually take the cross down. This issue is reflective of the death of Christianity in our society - not just a cross being taken down. It proves that a president would be willing to take down a cross because that symbol no longer holds any positive thoughts for our college.

Stretching it a bit there, I think. It is unfortunate, though. Hopefully they can get it back up.

rearviewmiror

Thank God I left Virginia.

It's a chapel. The damn place was founded by Anglicans. We were all a little religous back then. Even if the cross was only added 67 years ago, a chapel ia an appropriate place for a cross!

I'm a bleeding heart liberal and this pisses me off. When will common sense return?