Putin smashing dissent?

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  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    The government knows that the people are protesting, plain and simple. When Americans walk through the capital and protest the president's decisions, he knows it. He knows it when his polls are down.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    The government knows that the people are protesting, plain and simple. When Americans walk through the capital and protest the president's decisions, he knows it. He knows it when his polls are down.


    that didn't answer anything
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    El_Kabong wrote:
    that didn't answer anything

    Your questions are unanswerable because they are inconsequential.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    Your questions are unanswerable because they are inconsequential.


    in other words you can't back up your bullshit?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    The Soviet Union was ahead of its time... They didn't 'Fall' or go away... they just 'Downsized'. If you are surprized that they are acting this way... you havn't been paying attention. Ask the folks in Chechnya.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • 69charger
    69charger Posts: 1,045
    Free speech zones exist because whack-job protesters think the idea of free speech is to disrupt or prevent those whom they disagree with, from speaking.

    Shouting someone down so they can't speak is not 'free speech' and you know it happens all the f***ing time!
  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    69charger wrote:
    Free speech zones exist because whack-job protesters think the idea of free speech is to disrupt or prevent those whom they disagree with, from speaking.

    Shouting someone down so they can't speak is not 'free speech' and you know it happens all the f***ing time!

    Amen.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    69charger wrote:
    Free speech zones exist because whack-job protesters think the idea of free speech is to disrupt or prevent those whom they disagree with, from speaking.

    Shouting someone down so they can't speak is not 'free speech' and you know it happens all the f***ing time!


    can you plz give us the source of past rnc or dnc convention has been disrupted by protestors shouting so much they couldn't speak?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • 69charger
    69charger Posts: 1,045
    El_Kabong wrote:
    can you plz give us the source of past rnc or dnc convention has been disrupted by protestors shouting so much they couldn't speak?

    No, but I can point you to hundreds of other well documented examples of protesters shouting down those who they wish to silence.

    That's not free speech. That's preventing free speech.

    Free speech would be holding you own event in a civil manner to counter points being made by those with whom you disagree.
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    69charger wrote:
    No, but I can point you to hundreds of other well documented examples of protesters shouting down those who they wish to silence.

    That's not free speech. That's preventing free speech.

    Free speech would be holding you own event in a civil manner to counter points being made by those with whom you disagree.


    ok...and then security comes and removes the offender....did these 'hundreds' of events have to be shut down b/c of the person shouting?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • 69charger
    69charger Posts: 1,045
    El_Kabong wrote:
    ok...and then security comes and removes the offender....did these 'hundreds' of events have to be shut down b/c of the person shouting?

    In a lot of cases, yes. It did shut the event down.

    It's irrelevant anyways. I'll point you to what I said earlier that you ignored...

    That's not free speech. That's preventing free speech.

    Free speech would be holding you own event in a civil manner to counter points being made by those with whom you disagree.

    As a supposed supporter of free speech I would think you would agree?
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    69charger wrote:
    In a lot of cases, yes. It did shut the event down.

    It's irrelevant anyways. I'll point you to what I said earlier that you ignored...

    That's not free speech. That's preventing free speech.

    Free speech would be holding you own event in a civil manner to counter points being made by those with whom you disagree.

    As a supposed supporter of free speech I would think you would agree?


    and i'll repeat the things you ignored....:

    you think only allowing ppl to protest in a civil manner out of sight of what they are protesting and not allowing the press to even take their pictures is free speech?

    you think fining someone $500 for holding a sign <note, not yelling or shouting anyone down, just holding a sign and refusing to go to one of these 'free speech zones'> is free speech?

    of course i don't think someone should shout the other down and prevent them from speaking...but what you are endorsing is not promoting free speech, it's limiting it...you're few examples <well, your hypothetical examples as you've only provided hearsay> do not warrant, in my mind, this action. i would htink someone like you would be against punishing the collective to punish a small handful of ppl

    if you thought i already agreed why did you need the validation?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    I think at the very least, it is rude to hold up a sign speaking against the president while the president is giving a speech. At the very worst, the person holding the sign represents a threat to the president's personal safety.

    If I were the president (God forbid), I would most certainly have serious problems with people protesting me while I was giving a speech. Maybe some beatings would be in order.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell

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